I had run a thread saying that I didn't think that someone needed a high-end system to play rap or hip hop. I thought that kind of music would sound better on a low-fi to mid-fi system. People were saying I was racist because of these comments but what I said had nothing to do with racism. To me it was just common sense. Obviously hip hop and rap are huge Industry's and like I have said before they Not only Influence music but also movies and lifestyle.
If high-end manufacturers thought that the people into rap or hip-hop were Interested in listening to their music on high-end gear they would market a line of gear for them. After all these high-end companies have been losing market share for years and are Interested in looking for new market share which is evidenced by the World of Mcintosh display showroom in N.Y.C.
" If high-end manufacturers thought that the people into rap or hip-hop
were Interested in listening to their music on high-end gear they would
market a line of gear for them "
I dont think companies like Audio Research, Krell, Pass Labs, care what kind of music their equipment is playing....think they are more concerned about sales.
If somebody wants to play rap music on their system, then let them.....why does this bother you so much ?
" I have never seen someone start so many juvenile and supposedly innocent
threads. Three or more everyday it seems. Listen to more music:>)"
agreed.
I check the ads on this site everyday just to see what is out there, but have stayed away from the forums for quite a while because of stupid threads like this and I see that they still continue.
Taters, just saying that a line of equipment should be made for "them" reeks of class distinction, not to mention racial distinction, due to the implied nature of the genre.
Innocent as it seems (I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here), you're digging a deeper hole.
You are taking what I said out of context. I am saying If the people that listen to hip-hop and rap wanted to listen on a high-end system the companies could market to that clientele that listen to that type of music. I am not talking about race. I am talking about the demographic that listen to that type of music. Since hip hop and rap are such a fashion statement equipment could be designed for that marketplace. I made the example how World of Mcintosh has a lifestyle display in N.Y.C. To try and cater to a younger crowd Instead of old timers like ourselves.
This is just a thought and I don't know whether it would work or not. From the responses I got on my other thread there seemed to be a lot of people that listened to that type of music. I could see it as a potenial marketing campaign for the companies that already produce that type of product. I am just thinking like a contrarian here.
"I am saying if the people that listen to hip-hop and rap wanted to listen on a high-end system the companies could market to that clientele that listen to that type of music."
They already do. Audio salons will gladly take anyone's money regardless of what they listen to.
Having said that, I'm off tomorrow to Deez Audio Nutz to check out the latest boom box.
When I was speaker shopping I brought Fleetwood Mac Rumours, Queens greatest hits, and a Notorious BIG disc. The salesman thought I was nuts but after playing BIG's "Juicy" and "Hyptontize" he was amazed on how well it was recorded and showed off bass capability! Not all Hip Hop and Rap is crap or about crime.
I think the point might be something like this: what if the Beats by Dr. Dre headphones had been more of the quality of Sennheiser 600 or AKG701Q phones? Could millions of people have been inadvertently introduced to the sound of higher-end audio? What if you did the same with speakers? Unfortunately, too many people want (or think they want, at least) the exaggerated low end and possibly a sizzling high end for their modern music. I've known many rock fans who had expensive systems and then cranked up the treble and bass mercilessly to try to capture that crappy live sound they were used to. I'm sure I did it myself in my wayward youth. What's the point of spending time and money to get high quality equipment if you muck it up in the end?
" No-one forces you to respond in any way, you don't like it - close your mouths and keep it that way."
that is the problem with society these days....if somebody else has an opinion and if differs from somebody else, they get all offended and say keep your opinions to yourself. What a bunch of BS.
So if somebody says something to you in public and you dont agree with it, you are just going to sit there and not saying anything ? yeah, ok....
Tatertot your question is predicated on the assumption that those who listen to rap and hip hop are only listening to those genres. Most of the people that I know who are into hip hop and rap are also into many other types of music. Based on your flawed logic we have to exclude a lot of other genres of music that are just not fit for highend audio but are cherished by many audiophiles. Questlove the drummer for The Roots owns one of the largest vinyl collections on the planet (77,000) do you think its all rap and hip hop? I would also argue that his knowledge of music especially jazz is greater than most so called audiohiles. Another example is punk legend Henry Rollins who has a very highend system. Do you tink he just listens to punk music at ear bleeding levels? I thought the point of highend audio was about listening to the music you love in the best possible way. Am I missing something?
Sad. This is a shame. This is today's Internet. I guess listening to all of my low class hip hop has kept me from acting like this. Thank God! Hip hop producer j Dilla had a basement floor of more than 10,000 vinyl albums when he died. Whodini the hip hop group was one of 5 acts along with 4 Rock bands were the first to use a New Dolby recording studio. This studio had at the time the best sound quality in the world in the the early 1980's. Lack of facts and general blanket statements are the norm. Now I'm going back to listen to the "Roots" song "What They Do". It's talks about not doing what everybody else does. Who are "They". Regular group think. Lol. Lot of that happens on these created threads. Lol.
Here is a question for Tater. What kind of music do you think today's audio systems are designed for? From your post, it sounds like you think it's designed for anything BUT rap. That's just crazy.
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