@nasaman RE: Running out of stock. Their site isn't even operable as I write this... so, there's that.
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@jayctoy For power cords, unplug both ends before applying either 1260 or Q45T is highly and highly recommend.. |
@crummwoody Q45T is thicker and also darker than 1260, visually. It’s as dark as a marker so not to worry too much about should you or not to re-apply. The Q45T is more visible to see what’s on, what’s off. What you should worry now is to make sure HFC isn’t running out of stock. Order them today.. |
crummwoody My whole system was treated with 1260 and really enjoyed it. I am slowly changing to the Q45t. Right now i am about at 55% with Q45t in the system and 45% with the 1260. They do work well together (not on the same end of wire). The 1260 wipes off fairly easy with a soft cloth. I only had one connection where it was hard to get off. The 1260 does need to be reapplied several times if you are moving things in and out on a regular basis. Unplug something once or twice and repluge it did not effect the sound for me. Doing it more than that and i would reapply 1260. I have not tried it yet, but i am sure the Q45t should be about the same. The longer you leave it in placed the better the sound. Good luck |
Good to have opinions, but to be clear, High Fidelity Cables (HFC) wrote that one could disconnect and re-connect without re-application of 1260. To quote the company: "We move cables around often and find that a re-application is not always necessary. In fact, it is maybe every 3rd or 4th disconnection that we will treat again. We recommend evaluating the remaining visible NPS-1260 and re-applying if it shows to be diminished" HFC 9/10/21. My question was whether Q45T was different in this regard. |
If you rotate gear often, don’t use them (1260 or Q45T) yet because they aren’t cheap (unless they are not cheap for you). Just wait until you settle then give them a try. However, like me and many others here, your curiosity got over you and want to try them? fully apply them in a very thin layer as possible between 2 metal surfaces of the connectors. Avoid gaps. If removed or disrupted those bonds, re-coat again in a very thin layer. Yes, you can apply Q45T over 1260 and they can still go together. However, wipe off 1260 before applying Q45T will give you more accurate of Q45T’s sounding signature. In my opinion, the Q45T is better than 1260. It gives me more music so I personally wipe off 1260. Great luck and have fun with it. |
I cannot help much here @crummwoody as I never had 1260 (Just did the NPS-Q45T recently), but my guess is the application videos should be identical. |
Thyname, I agree +1, Iam 80 % done on all my 3 systems.Every system level of musicality is way beyond I can Ask for.Applying q45 to all my wires I felt like they were replaced by a more expensive one, As good as my Tyr Nordost ic, HF ct 2 ic , Tellurium ic, phono Cables, all have sounds more Dynamics, fast, a lot more like bass and slam.. After Iam 80 % done I felt I have spend more than 5k on Cables.Iam happy I discover the q45.NASAMAN state he felt like he upgraded 5 to 10k amp.I thought he exaggerates but yes same experience here. |
I agree with my system also the lean is gone. All the qualities that you mention are also in spades. I own an appliance repair company and have been using 1260 for almost a year now. Mostly on wire terminals that are burned off the heating elements in dryers. Spade connector on the heating element after cleaning off all the carbon on them leaving 1/3 the size. I’ve usually cut in a new terminal on the power wire and connect into what was left on the element terminal without much success. It has almost been a year now on those repairs and still they are going without taking out the new wire terminal. Saving my customers lots of money and less work for me. |
John (NASaMAN) you are spot on, The q45st adds more musicality into the system, there is more harmony.The only way to know what the q45st does applied it in your system. Though $349 is not cheap? You tell me after you applied it if really worth it.I agree with David ,the resulion and informations does create confusion . When we were texting you loaded me lots of information On q45st, You got me curious because you were so into the q45st, I end up ordering 5 ml one bottle? I should have ordered 10 ml to be honest.John , David is also a friend of mine, it started when I challenged him to come and visit , I buy Him beer and pizza , next thing I know He is in Chicago visited Teajay and Allen . He came to visit , he got his delicious pizza and his cold beer, He is very nice and very passionate on Audio. |
I never have the 1260, because iAm very skeptical if it’s worth $349. But iAm wrong.Iam now listening with q45 applied except pc.I still got improvement,open up the music ,in terms of holographic sound ,David this q45 works like wonder.This is on my third system, I ask Casey to put one bottle on hold.I might need one.of for future use. |
@nasaman Thank you. I disagree with how you have defined each "term" despite the further explanation and elaboration; however, I have a somewhat better understanding of what you are communicating. |
nasaman Spot on I treated 5 more of my MC O5s and 2 power cords - source and preamp. Still have a lot to treat. But i am thinking i might leave some 1260 in the system? Just for the reason you posted. So far when applying the Q45t i have cleaned the 1260 off. It comes off fairly easy, i did have one connection where it seamed to have dry hard and took a lot of elbow grease to get it off. |
Hi guys, Nps-1260: Gains more information. (I can hear more) It allows to hear (many) more musical instruments appear in the music that I didn’t hear before. Ex, the sweaty palm gliding on the guitar’s neck, a sax player or singer inhaling/ breathing appeal to be cleaner and more obvious....This 1260 also allows more musicality and silky highs that I really like. It somewhat opens up- more air and details . 1260 is impressive. Q45T: Gains more resolutions. (I can "see" more) In my system, it improves so much and focuses mainly around the sound-staging and imaging. It gives (so much) more separations, more layers (depths), more micro inner details that give a cleaner "picture" of locations between the players themselves and singer(s). Very organic sounding, warmth and full and (a tad) more emotional engagement. The speakers disappeared like they never there. So,...more information and more resolutions are 2 diff things. Now, the reason I love Q45T more than 1260 personally is because the Q45T has a very much organic sounding simislar a vinyl?, musicality and authority which give me the impression that I’m getting a free upgrade $5k to $10k amp within the brand and just for that....the Q45T worths every penny. Please note that my whole system is currently being treated with 1260. The new comer Q45T’s only been applied 2 areas (4 locations) and that’s the speaker cables and the streamer Lumin’s umbilical cord.
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@david_ten +1 |
@nasaman This reads ’contradictory’ (inconsistent). Can you clarify and differentiate? Thanks.
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@jayctoy : just my impression in my only one system only on day #2 since partial application. Everything else it does better than before the application. I think there is more "burn in" required. Maybe a week or less. |
This morning I applied only on my digital cables marigo apparition and the HF adapters, the result is good again, the bass is much clearer, more slam and nice impact, but the clarity is equal to my ct2 ic, as usual the texture is HF cables signature.The transport is Yamaha S1000, and Ares denafrips dac.Using viva tube integrated.I also applied on my Kimber D60 digital cable , Using peactree DAC it, and Cambridge Transport will update you on this once I am done listening on the marigo digital cable. |
The only thing left is the SR purple amp fuse and the preamp and power amplifier pins. I don’t have enough information to feel safe on any of that. Regarding the small signal tubes, my 3 preamps are all vintage...VTL Deluxe, Quicksilver Full Function, and the one I’m currently using, the CJ PV-5. I can treat the pins but will that cause damage to the old tube sockets? I’m more inclined to try treating my large signal KT120’s (Rogue). Same question applies but the tube sockets are more modern. Guess I can try to contact Ted on how to apply this stuff to his fuse. |
Day 2 went very bland and dark for some reason. Figured part of it might be the reseating of the MC-05’s. Had not touched them for around 1000 hours. Anyway, got impatient tonight and treated most of the rest of my system . IC’s, HFC RCA phono destination adapters, amp to speaker bananas. WOW...in 5 minutes of all tube warmup, the difference was remarkable. The midrange and highs are right there, very clear,but not fake or analytical . Finally, as someone who very humbly has a lot of experience with live, acoustic music, my only complaint at this early juncture is a skewing of the tonal signature slightly away from richness to lean. But again, we're only talking about Day 3 and I'm excited to see what happens in the next few months.
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@nasaman thanks for the response. I will plan to take it slow to make sure that I continue to like the response. |
@sruffle Yes, Just to be on the safe side? Apply slowly and 1 location at a time and watch "your child" grows. LOL Monitor it and take notes for each of those locations If you do all at 1 time ...the fun can soon be over. And, if there are side effects, you won’t know which locations to look into first. |
I have applied the Q45 to my speaker cables. After 2 hours, I can report that I am very happy with the purchase. Improved texture and detail are easily apparent. the website says 24 to 48 hours of break in will occur. I was planning to do a little bit every week but it seems that some are doing everything at once. The improvement was so nice that it is tempting to do everything at once but am wondering if it makes sense to go in stages in case too much becomes overwhelming |
@jayctoy That’s great to hear. It’s a great stuff, and I’m happy for us all. You guys are applying the Q45T way faster than me, LOL because I’m still at the speaker cables ends and my Lumin streamer’s 8-pin power cable. Evtime I’m in my listening room for a quick listening, I’m stuck to the chair and not wanting anything else. It’s that great. For the crazies, do y’all know that the 1260 can also be applied between metal connectors around speakers’ Cross-over and inside your electronics, right? Amps, preamps, CDPs, streamers, Pwr Conditioners, and many more. Power them off, be careful and have some fun with it. John |
Fideliums - As you know with only one side exposed metal to work with I put my exposed side toward the object with the post. Not facing away from the object. I pasted it on fairly heavy using the applicator from the bottle all across the exposed metal. Then I opened up the post very wide so I did not scrap it off when slipping it back onto the post; more of an inward then push down toward the object motion. Then I used my other hand to hand tighten and you can feel the particles "cracking" under the pressure. I did not apply to the posts first as I am sure it would squish out to the unexposed side and be wasted. |
Mine arrived today, was not going to apply any of it until tomorrow but went a head and started it. My whole system is done in the 1260. So i applied it to part of the front end. From the wall to the Power Conditioner. Thats 5 power cords, 32 of the different MC 05s levels the 3 to 1 splinters used putting them on the same line about 13 of them . One MC6 Hemisphere power strip with MC1pros plugged in to it. The sound was very seductive clean and musical. I listen to 7 CD and SACDs. Will apply more tomorrow and finish hopefully on Saturday the complete system. The 1260 for me was a miracle in a small bottle. The Q45t is better and not by a little bit but by a lot. For me this did everything the 1260 did that was good but a lot more. |
My Q45-T arrived today. I could not resist, so I applied to two power cords (DAC and Integrated Amp), and the XLR interconnects. That’s it for tonight.
I was not sure what to expect, if anything at all. But damn! This is incredible! From the first note, it’s almost startling. Like a different system. Not sure what to make of it. Music is kinda dialed in, similar to coming into focus when photographing something. There is a certain sparkle and bloom. There are some notes that sound as coming from somewhere too wide, vertically and horizontally, I literally looked around like “what is this, where is it coming from?”. Heck, I am kinda questioning whether things are supposed to sound this way. Whatever it is, I am liking in. I do have to figure this out, but there is most certainly something going on.
I will do the speaker cables, other power cords (power conditioner, subs, transport, server), and some peripherals over the weekend. This is way more interesting than I thought it would be. |
I applied mine yesterday evening and and the immediate results were a very dark soundstage almost dull sounding. I applied it to my speaker cables and interconnects going from my processor to my amps. This result doesn’t surprise me much because I remember the 1260 had a similar reaction. Tonight I can hear the darkness starting to clear out as if the sun is breaking through the clouds. |
