Hearing aid question


Decades ago I at least thought of myself as a bit of a "Golden Ear"; my Quad ELS/Pyramid supertweeter combo and associated electronics were a source of pride and joy. (All gone over the years, alas.) In recent years I have learned that I have essentially lost the top three octaves of my auditory frequency response, whether through natural aging or some other process I'm not sure; I also have a fair bit of tinnitus at this stage, but that has proved less of an issue in being able to enjoy music. So now I've gone from enjoying the transparent reproduction of great music to struggling to resolve the sibilants in my wife's speech. (In the overall scheme of things, the latter is arguably more important, at least in maintaining peace at home.) I still very much enjoy listening to music, but the high-end losses have somewhat diminished the joy of it.

I am of course starting to think about taking the leap into hearing aids as a genuine quality-of-life enhancement. I was wondering if anyone out there has dealt with similar issues, and perhaps formed opinions about which of the many available solutions has worked best as both a general lifestyle aid and a boost to their enjoyment of live and recorded music. Many thanks in advance.

ericrhenry5488

+1 on Costco.
+1 jomace Buy the best you can. Your entire multi $k audio investment is funneling through one place.

I have high end Signia hearing aids. They are pretty good & MUCH better than the dull lifeless sound I hear without them. However their frequency range of any hearing aid is about 40-8khz

I was looking for better alternatives for someone with hearing loss and stumbled on the ASI 3DME in-ear monitors on a a website called Grand Piano Passion AN OASIS FOR ADULT PIANO STUDENTS AND MUSICIANS WITH HEARING LOSS.

They are designed for musicians, but maybe a good solution for audiophiles with hearing loss. They are analog, have 20-20KHz (although +/- not published) capability and a 7 band equalizer per channel, and are highly recommended by Grand Piano Passion as an alternative to hearing aids for music.

Haven’t pulled the trigger yet, but looks intriguing. You would still need hearing aids, but could buy lesser ones with an IEM for music. 

I got my hearing aids through an HMO. They paid $3600 for the pair. There was an option for an improvement from Denmark for $1,800. I paid it. The hearing aids are the most important piece of my system. There was a discussion on the PS Audio chat with Paul McGowan. The hearing aids users felt pretty the same. The aids I have include four different levels of boost. I am using the weakest one. I have bought a Pass Labs XA 25 and a Denafrips DAC since being fitted. I would have no qualms about upgrading any part of my system. I know I cannot hear what younger audiophiles do, but when the alternative is silence, the decision to buy the best hearing aids available to me, was easy to make.

I got mine at Costco.  Make sure you have a HIFi satting you can turn on when listening to your music.   No it's not the same as good hearing, but is certainly an improvement.

If a persons main goal is hearing music properly… Why not just use the equalization available with Roon, or some kind of Equalizer or digital processing.? If it might offend others in the house, because it has too much trouble, why not use headphones? Can’t you do more sophisticated equalization with digital signal processing then even your hearing aid ?

You can get top level hearing aids at Costco for about $1500/pair. I just did that a few weeks ago (I used to pay about $3000 each for the same quality). I've been wearing hearing aids for over 20 years, and the improvement it has made in music listening and everything else is superb; I'd no more go without them than without my eyeglasses. I also have tinnitus, but that's not what my hearing aids are for.

@stereo5 is more or less correct.  Except for the Widex (which has its own limitations, but I might be tempted to try them eventually), aids are not designed for music.  The behind the hear aids for mild to moderate loss are designed primarily to improve speech recognition by boosting sound in the 2-6 KHz range.  

the best ones cost around $3K each.

they do help you hear the swish and clang of cymbals and so on, but it soon becomes tiresome.

Hearing aids are primarily miniature equalizers (with some processing, like compression, built in.) Audiophiles migrated to extremely simple preamps decades ago, for good reasons.

I have no idea why wives expect you to hear them talk from another room, in a quiet voice .  Facing the listener, speaking clearly, enunciating properly, getting the listener's attention before speaking, adjusting your volume for the circumstances - I don't know why communication skills are so little taught in schools.     

Eric, make an appointment with a trusted audiologist for an exam.  If you ARE willing to make an investment in better hearing, you WILL be happy or you will get your money back.  I got my test locally and saved money buying Widex 440 from Direct Hearing (find them online).  In addition to more enjoyment of music, properly programmed, user adjustable hearing aids will improve speech intelligibility and reduce tinnitus.

All the hearing aids I tried made my system sound like a tin can telephone.  I refuse to spend 3K+ on a hearing aid that may or may not help me enjoy the system a little more.  I am not afraid to use the treble control on my preamp, and at +4DB helps tremendously.