Duelund speaker cable gauge for my system?


Hi everyone!

I feel like trying a different flavor of speaker cable. At the moment using some Chinese "Neardost Odin" cables (OFC copper, silver plated, teflon insulation of each individual core) and it's a very good cable, but I'm trying to get rid of everything silver plated in my system (because of a slight unnatural glare).

Using very high sensitivity horns in an active tri-amped  situation: subs <60Hz, bass and low mids 60 > 500Hz, mids and highs > 500Hz.

Average sensitivity from 60 to 20KHz is 105dB. Midbass drivers are 15inch, horn loaded.

I listen to almost every music genre there is, including electronica / techno.

In my system only the range above 60Hz would be concerned by the Duelund cable.

And, I don't know what gauge to choose! Should I take 16GA (my instinctive choice) or 12GA? I'm confused.

Also, do the recently added "dual" wires sound different than the single 16GA or 12GA?

And last but not least, is the Duelund cable suited for every musical genre? Is it smooth at high levels? (I tried Belden 9497 for a while and, while I liked it very much at low SPLs, I found it insufferably rough and gritty at higher SPLs...)

Thanks!

 

rolox

Get Auditorium23 cables, they are specifically designed for high efficiency speakers.

What is your system? Sounds like this is a component problem more than a wire problem. 
 

There is a place to show your system under your profile. It is really helpful for us to be able to help you, to see the whole picture.

I've been using Duelund 12 gauge in both of my systems for years.   They replaced considerably more expensive cables.   I've found they need about 200-300 hours to settle in, so the initial break in process is lengthy and frustrating, but ultimately worth it in the end.

If you google it, there's a good write up on Duelund on a blog.

I ran dual 16g and I found them bit on the warm side; I read that the larger gauge you go the warmer it gets.  Never tried the 12.  For speaker I ran them unterminated.

Legendarium 2A3 SET to Klipsch RP5000.

I only ran the singles as ICs; I don't think there was a difference.

 

@ghdprentice +1

I agree.  Solving that problem with wire changes sounds like chasing your tail.

BTW, I have a wide variety of speaker, interconnect, and power cables made from both Duelund and old stock Western Electric tinned copper wire.  The house sound is full-bodied and somewhat midrange-centric.  Another similar wire you could consider is made by Jupiter Condenser Co. in 16 and 12 gauge twisted pairs.  The machine twist is nice.

Yes you have a very complicated system knowing what it is would help very much and obviously high sensitivity horns are very sensitive to amplification.

The Duelund is warm sounding but not that great in detail ,especially low level.

try the Kimber  8TC , or12TC very good quality Litz wire,  a solid value.

Not knowing what Cha got, equipment and room, we can’t know how best to help.

All the best.

Well, a friend of mine sent me a short length of Duelund DCA12GA 600Vdc. It is the wire that is recommended for power cables, but some people like it a lot as speaker cable. I know my friend did! On horns. The difference is the dielectric, which is oiled cotton on the regular DCA cable, and a "Polycast" resin on the 600Vdc cable.

So, I connected the left channel with the Duelund, leaving the old cable on the right channel (there was not enough length to do both) and I must say that I’m impressed.

The Duelund DCA12GA used as speaker cable sounds a bit dark, very meaty, "intimate" but is articulate and quite detailed - I don’t feel there’s anything missing from my music. It seems the synergy with my horn speakers (which are not exactly "soft" sounding) and electronics (Gustard X26Pro DAC, Pass b1 preamp, Sublime Acoustics K231 active crossover, class D chip amps) is just right, toning it down a bit without sounding overly soft or mellow - electronica and rock sound great, upper bass is punchy and meaty, guitars have bite but everything is just darker in color)

On a laidback system, it would probably be better to use the regular Duelund cable, but on a bright / upfront system, the 600V cable works really well.

So, I’ve ordered some length of DCA12Ga 600Vdc to be able to cable the whole system, and I will come back to give my impressions with both channels. I expect the burn in period to be long and difficult but I’ll hang in there!

I have found multiple wires specifically solid wires sound better using 8 or 9 strands to make up a 10awg for example rather than one large wire. 
YMMV

@tecknik 

Multiple solid core wires for speaker cables is what Harmonic Technology has been doing for years.  They used individually insulated, small gauge, OCC copper wires and the cables sound great IMO.

@pdreher well yes I suppose there will be some break in happening, altho quite surprisingly there doesn't seem to be this awkward rollercoaster burn in period ( or maybe it hasn't started yet!) where you wonder why in hell did you purchase the cables.

I think I'm hearing small changes happening, but it never departs from sounding good - so far at least. We will see!