Coda Audio Video based in San Francisco is running a fraudulent operation
My story goes like this. I was searching Audiogon for some used Raidho speakers over the summer. I had seen a couple good deals that I just missed (my occupation keeps me from hovering on Audiogon and I tend to miss out). I came across an advertisement from the dealer Coda Audio Video (https://www.audiogon.com/listings/full-range-raidho-d-3-gorgeous-piano-black-finish-customer-trade-i...). Their feedback looked excellent on Audiogon, their website listed 3 California locations (https://codaaudiovideo.com/) and even non-audiogon reviews were good as was their BBB rating, and they seemed to have a lot of social media presence and a high rating on their Facebook page.
I started the dialog regarding the above advertisement here on Audiogon; the speakers in the ad had sold. I ended up calling and speaking to a knowledgeable person about the speakers and I eventually settled on getting a pair of Raidho D 3.1’s. I offered a payment plan, we discussed maybe me trading some of my equipment toward the price but we eventually settled on and agreed to a specific price and a payment plan (all of it documented as an audiogon email discussion). During this discussion period, Items were still being advertised and sold by Coda and there even appeared to be ongoing positive feedback (it took a few weeks for me to agree, based mostly on my own process of gathering enough information to make a good decision for the speakers I wanted).
My proposal was a down-payment of just over 1/2 of our mutually agreed total cost followed by about 9 monthly installments. Everything seemed to be going smoothly and on the right path. As I have done in the past for other equipment on Audiogon without a problem, I wired the down-payment. Again, at this time, I had no reason think anything was amiss as communication was quite good. I also made the (faulty) assumption that these high ticket items must be represented by reliable and respected dealers.
My payment was deposited around the end of July. I was first told:
"Everything is in place. The D-3.1 are currently on back order and will be ready to ship to us at the end of august if all goes to plan with Raidho Acoustics...
Best,
Coda Audio Video"
August 25, 2016 20:44
Thanks John, I will email you the complete invoice once we have the serials numbers of the speakers!
Best,
Kelly
The shipping date for the 3.1 looks like it will be shipped starting on September 5th. Just FYI
jgm (you)August 25, 2016 20:50Thanks for the info Kelly, much appreciated.
August 25, 2016 20:52
You are very welcome. I will let you know once they are shipped out to us. Once we receive them, we will forward them to you.
Then, unfortunately, everything went awry. Silence followed until I inquired in mid September. Coda responded by asking if I was going to Rocky Mountain Audio festival since we could meet there but I could not go. I called and spoke to a Justin Hutto and was told "we’re working on this as we speak." After RMAF ended I contacted them again here on Audiogon asking for updates of if the speakers shipped, if they had serial numbers or an invoice...for which there was no response. I called again and was told "we’re working on your speakers." When I would check, it appeared that Coda was selling and still getting positive feedback here on Audiogon. I didn’t send any additional payment (although none was "due") and I messaged them again in Mid October but by that time, the Coda Audio Video name was no longer available on the email string at Audiogon (the name had changed to "Standardsound" which appeared to be engaged in commerce and having good feedback).
Below is how it went will all telephone conversations between myself and Mr. Justin Hutto (who describes himself on his Facebook page as the speaker salesman for Coda Audio Video):
jgm (you)October 19, 2016 15:18
I notice there’s been a name change from Coda Audio Video to standardsound but you appear to still be active here on Audiogon. Since I haven’t heard back I thought I would try calling. I called the number below (415-205-1053) but that lead me to a mailbox that was full and not taking any messages. I called Coda Audio Video’s direct number (415-966-2838) and left a message. I trust you are between audio shows and might be able to help me with where things stand. Your last comment below was a little vague (not sure what you meant by "working on things"). I have searched my email and don’t find any new update from Sept 22nd. Again, you initial thought was that they would ship to you on or about Sept 5th. Can you please provide an update with regard to the speakers? I was holding off and the next payment thinking that I might get an invoice with serial numbers as you mentioned previously. Appreciate your time.
Thanks, John
jgm (you)October 19, 2016 21:38
I called 415-205-1053 again this afternoon and now I get a message that this is a non-working number.
Thank you for calling me back just now [Justin Hutto]. Just to reiterate, you confirmed with me that I should be receiving an invoice and the speakers by the end of the month. I should expect tracking info in 7 days +/- obviously in order for that to happen.
I am sorry you have had a health issue. I hope it is resolving and that you are recovering. I am also sorry you have had some major company and personnel changes. Hopefully things will go smoother for you in the future.
Sincerely,
John M
jgm (you)October 25, 2016 19:44
I realize it has only been 6 days - do you have an update?
Response:standardsoundOctober 26, 2016 00:17Hello John,
Please contact Coda Audio Video at sales@codaaudiovideo.com or 415-966-2838. Thank you
I called Mr. Hutto again and wrote the following to document the conversation:
"I called you yesterday afternoon and when you answered, you stated, "We’re working on it". You said you would call or text me later, you did not. I called and left a message on your voice mail last night about 6pm California time, requesting that you call me either that night or today. Still haven’t heard from you. I called the Newport Beach number: 949-432-4920 and got the message "not taking any calls".
As evident from this email exchange, you have been "working on it" for over 1 month. Initially, I was told they would ship to you on or about Sept 5. As I stated in my voice mail, I am growing weary of the vague responses - I have no idea what "working on it" means and you have not been clear.
I need clarity and some kind of definitive answer:
Where are my Raidho D3.1’s?
I am going to email Raidho direct and inquire about any orders placed by your company for the speakers I requested."
SO, after emailing Raidho direct, I confirmed that no speakers had been ordered or were on order by Coda Audio Video (despite the months of ongoing assurances that the speakers had been ordered, as of the end of October NOTHING had been ordered). The actual owner of Standardsound called me and informed me that Justin and "Coda" were locked out of Standardsound (which was now a separate business entity).
I searched for and found Kelly Tessmer, the legal business owner of Coda Audio Video in San Francisco. I have contacted her now twice and have received no response (and it was into her account that my money was deposited). I have had several bizarre interactions with Mr. Hutto. Despite all of this, I offered to work out an arrangement with Raidho where I would send the remainder of what I committed toward the purchase directly to Raidho if Coda/Justin/Kelly were willing to send the remainder, or, just give me a refund.Of course, as of today, there is no evidence that a refund is in the works or that money has been sent to Raidho.
When I look closer at the review of Coda on facebook, it is by Justin Hutto (good thing he reviewed his own sham operation).
Obviously I should not have wired any money and I clearly will need to resort to legal action. I would NEVER due business with Mr. Justin Hutto or Ms. Kelly J Tessmer ever again and would recommend the same for my Audiophile brethren. It is such a shame. In all my years of being on Audiogon and buying/selling (I joined in 2001), despite a few transactions which were less then seemless, I have never been taken by a Dealer, much less a dealer with a long history of positive feedback on Audiogon...which makes me wonder about some of that feedback and it’s legitimacy.
If you try a member lookup codaaudiovideo is not a member any more. They only had 4 posts. But that's not to say someone else from the company joined. After all their web site is still up https://codaaudiovideo.com/collections/raidho-acoustics |
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I think Audiogon has to do more in order to verify business operating on this site. Get further verification document or anything that can prove physical location, License, Trading partners, references etc etc. I am from outside the USA, however I'm starting to learn that a lot of US companies I have dealt with in the past are also running online scams and frauds just as much as Asia & Europe. This needs to be reported to a few online authorities and audiogon has to take action. Specially when these people are presenting themselves as Store Owners. |
Sorry to hear about this. I did purchase speakers from Coda Audio on Audigon May 2016, it was a weird process. At first they did try to get me to pay by Wire but I refused, went through Pay Pal. I did get the speakers and there was a little bit of run around that I chalked up to poor management. I tired to get some info, on the dealer C/A got the speakers from but couldn't (Warranty Info.) made me question where the speakers really came from. From what you have been through I consider myself lucky I actually got the speakers. Wish you the best with this. |
Is there any way to move it there or copy it? I think the forum needs a completely separate topic: Dealer Reviews or Dealer Experiences - some of us have had great experiences we'd like to share in addition to the really bad ones like this. I struggled with trying to find a place to put this and placed it here based upon another post. |
Guys,...very sorry to hear of this happening to both of you. After many years in this hobby and on this site with no issues at all on the buy or sell side, I was hit by a scam seller as well who looked good up front. It was very painful,...certain website admins were of limited help and I am still pursuing this through a DA's office in NY and with the FBI as it is interstate. I wish you all the luck and good results in getting these scumbags brought to justice and getting your money, or your speakers, in your hands. Have your tried background check sites (paid reliable services only) or an actual PI to find out where these people now live? |
Justin Hutto is about as untrustworthy as anyone I have every dealt with on this site. One of his "stories", that his girlfriend, Ms. Tessmer (to whom I wired the monies), broke up with him and locked him out of the accounts. He maintained this story for months yet even yesterday he posted on Facebook a picture of both he and Ms. Tessmer arm-in-arm (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1332183590149106&set=a.150534051647405.27795.10000072434...) . I am glad it worked for you Henrycai. Maybe it was the CC. Maybe it was because it was a straight Audiogon transaction. Maybe you got in before it went completely to hell. Coda used to have a Facebook page. It was taken down yesterday after I left a very negative review. I sincerely hope others don't get taken - between myself and Doctorxx, were in for >$50k with nothing to show for it but a pack of lies, stall tactics and erratic text messages. Thanks to everyone for the support. Does anyone know an attorney in CA who works civil cases? |
Thanks for posting your experiences with this company. I live in the SF area, and had even considered visiting their location which was listed on their website. A Google street-view, however, showed it to be somebody's house on Octavia St. a couple of blocks behind the SF Opera House. This seemed strange to me, as that's a purely residential block. It did make me wonder, and in the end I just never bothered. Good decision, it seems. Very sorry that you had to go through all this and certainly hope you're able to resolve the problem. |
Doctorxx, I am also sorry you have been taken by these persons. I had briefly heard about another person with a Raidho problem...I am very sorry it was you. I will text you and hopefully we can pool our resources and take these people to court. Thanks Oleschool, Tonykay and Stereo5. Had I any reason to be even the slightest bit concerned, I would have insisted on a different form of payment. In retrospect, I certainly should have! The thing about this, it is the first time I have been severely ripped off ($17,500) by an Audiogon dealer. Again, there have been a few bumps along the way, most minor. This to my mind point to a larger problem on this forum. Is feedback legit? Has this happened before? How do we know what's real? And really, this is such a small community of mostly like minded people...it almost seems impossible. I have a few things I will do. First, I will contact every audio-show organizer I can and forward the names of these two so they might be black listed. No-one else should be taken by these thieves and they should never be given a forum to solicit business. I will contact the San Francisco Audio Society (and all other california audio societies) and make them aware of these persons. Coda, Justin and Kelly all have social media profiles. I will see that Doctorxx's and my interactions get posted in their profiles for all to see. I am composing my demand letter next. |
So sorry to read this. It's getting so you can't trust even some of the big boys anymore. I have been very lucky, I only deal with old and established brick and mortar stores and I haven't gotten ripped off yet here with 102 transactions under my belt. Also, I would never, ever wire money. I always pay by CC as you at least have some recourse. |
I read your story and empathize with your situation. Everything sounded so legitimate that anyone would have been fooled, so don’t beat yourself up. I read these stories too often here and it confirms my philosophy of cash and carry, whether buying or selling. Wiring funds is really a crapshoot, and puts you at risk of just this sort of thing. I live near San Francisco, but I’m not familiar with Coda or Standardsound. If it were me, I’d be in a car or on a plane, searching for Justin Hutto to confront him. This stuff has to stop! I hope it ends well for you. |
Hi, My name is Billy Franklin. My account is listed under Kwileylongevity@yahoo.com. I am responding because i have had an experience almost exactly like yours. I spoke with Justin at Coda Audio Video and was told i could purchase an upgrade of my Raidho D5s. I, like you and based on positive feedback from Audiogon, wired nearly $33,000.00 to Coda who assured me they had scheduled my upgrade. I got multiple replys and phone calls telling me the upgrade was scheduled but it just never happened. I contacted Raidho and was told they never received any money from Coda for the upgrade. They have offered to perform the upgrade for the cost of materials provided i forward them the balance if Coda ever does issue the recently promised refund. I was hoping the fact that they performed interstate fraud would allow for the FBI to get involved? My phone number is(512) 845-1335 if you would like to connect in taking action against Kelly j Tessmer and Justin Hutto. Please text first as my phone messages tend to accumulate while i am seeing patients. My e-mail is dr.williamfranklin@gmail.com is you prefer to text comment. Thankyou for posting. I am not happy you were also ripped off by these people but it helps to have another party involved in getting these people off the street. |