Can you live with your current speaker until you die?


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Yes I can!

In my 40 years of history I had gone through around 15 speakers including

ADS, Altec Lansing, Thiel, Canton, Apogee Duetta Signature(10years), BMW 801, Avalon Ascent, Wilson Audio Watt and Puppy6.



I settled at Pacific Northwest area located just midway between Seattle and Vancouver BC around 6 years ago.

It has a nice western view of Bay and Pacific Ocean with 2 acres lot.

I could play music loud during midnight with no problem to my neighbors as long as I close the windows.


With vaulted big space, my Lansche 4.1 speakers makes a beautiful voice out of classical, Jazz or even new age music.

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I had been living with the speaker since 2007.

I do not claim that Lansche 4.1 is the best speaker in the world.

But with clean and pristine treble out of plasma tweeters and pretty good bass out of 2 10 inch driven by internal active amplifier and high efficiency (99db spec, but I believe it to be around 93db), it is hard to find better speaker with overall merit for my house.


The only catch is that it can stop working since it is an active speaker( plasma tweeter and active bass unit).

But I keep having good communication with Henry Dien of Lansche Audio who upgraded plasma tweeters twice at reasonable cost.

I can happily live with Lansche 4.1 speakers at my present house for my life unless serious health issues happen to either me or my speakers.

How about you gentlemen and ladies?

Had any one of you found the speaker for your life?


128x128shkong78

If my speakers don't die, then I'll live with them till I die unless I decide to become a squatter. 

Revel Salon 2 speakers.  Absolutely incredible!!!  The Revel Salon 2 speakers will be with me for the duration.  

In the later half of the 1960s I had a large, portable stereo with two detachable speakers .
In the early 70s ((while I was a music major with no money) the detachable speakers crapped out on me and without a great deal of funds or tools I constructed speakers made with matched 8” speakers with wizzer cones in the middle, and mounted them in somewhat reinforced cardboard boxes.

Mid 1970s  Generic bookshelf speakers

Later 1970s. RTR Tower speakers front and rear channels

1981 Magnepan MG-1 front speakers / Generic bookshelf rear speakers

1982 Magnepan MG-1 Improved front speakers / MG-1 rear speakers

2015 Magnepan 1.6 front speakers / MG-1 Improved rear speakers

2016 Magnepan 1.7 front speakers /1.6 rear speakers (All 4 - Mye Stands)

2017 Magnepan 1.7i front speakers /1.7 rear speakers (All 4 - Mye Stands)

2019 Magnepan 3.7i front speakers /1.7rear speakers (All 4 - Mye Stands)

2020 Magnepan 3.7i front speakers /3.5 R modded rear speakers (All 4 - Mye Stands)

Unless an accident happens, these will be my lifetime speakers

Also - from 1985 to present - 1 pair of custom built subs with 15” woofers, crossed over at 40 Hz

 

 

Well, I may never wake from tonight’s slumber...

You may never wake from tonight’s slumber...

So, your current speaker better be the one you can live with until you die...

Always listen to your speaker like it’s your last night on earth, dude!! 😁

(i.e. don’t be a halfass ADD/ADHD dingus listener)

It all depends on my financial status. I love my Paradigm Studio 100’s especially since I added a JL Audio E112 sub but if somehow I become wealthy they will be gone. Not sure for what but I’d upgrade my entire system. 

This has been the longest I’ve had speakers from the same company. Went from Vandersteen Treo’s to the Quatro’s and will never look back. I’m in heaven daily. Most of my friends are constantly changing out speakers etc. so glad to be off the hamster wheel. 

@mschott

https://youtu.be/uzKz1TF35Ug

I had not listened to M9 yet.

But I will have a chance next weekend at Seoul, Korea.

I am going there to celebrate first birthday of my granddaughter.

 

The total system to drive 750k $ speaker will cost 1 million $ at least.

 

Even if I like it, I would not jump at it unless I win big lottery.😁

 

Thomas

Oh Yeah. Done, with Spare Vintage Parts downstairs. Die with them, none too soon please!

It was the sound of these speakers/drivers that got me thoroughly hooked in 1971. Came in a 1958 Fisher Console, President II, I inherited from my uncle.

8" high bronze base, 15" woofers faced down.

I’ve moved the drivers/level controls/crossover into a few different enclosures over the years, now their final: Custom Rosewood.

My Woodworker had been saving a small flitch of matched Brazilian Rosewood, just enough to do the job. New Import of Brazilian Rosewood was banned by then.

Original design, no ports. For open space, no wall behind (prior location) I open the tuned rear port (Enclosure and tuned rear port designed with the help of Electro-voice Engineers). Current space, I plugged the rear ports.

Here is a shot face down, back off. No special bracing, but no vibration. Tops are slightly slanted and I put many of Donna’s precious things on top. I verify the drivers are tight annually.

The Horn’s drivers are linen, phenolic coated, essentially indestructible, and the 15" woofer paper cone has vintage cloth surround, hard to find, I re-coned them twice myself and have spare cones and full set of spare drivers for the future. All drivers are Electro-Voice 16 ohm

The Original Electro-Voice 3 way crossover is components in tar in a sealed metal can. Custom Crossover builders tell me to leave them alone.

I put new 16 ohm L-Pads Level Controls recently.

Incredibly efficient, came with Fisher 30 wpc mono tube amps, I have driven them with 8 wpc tubes; fisher 500c 35wpc tubes; McIntosh 300 wpc SS, now Cayin 45 wpc tubes, AT88 version one with 16 ohm taps (sadly bias adjust is internal).

Balancing the speaker’s in the room with the level controls, sound pressure meter, tripod, test tracks is hard, tedious, but very rewarding when done right.

Everybody knows by now that I think speakers should come with level controls, to adjust the speakers IN THE SPACE they will be heard. Precise stepped L-Pads would be easier than my step-less rotary ones.

@elliottbnewcombjr 

Nice systems!

 

I hope you enjoy it until you die.

I also have Altec A7 which also sounds musical.

 

https://youtu.be/3_rZq998Yhk

 

Thomas

shkong78

Your pockets are much deeper than mine.

The Lansche are gorgeous, small enough to fit many people’s spaces, the Altec’s need a converted barn or aircraft hanger, I would love to hear both.

DONE. Hmmmmmm, I think I’m done too, just messing with cartridges which doesn’t count as change does it?

Level Controls: What controls are on the back of the Lansches? I cannot find a photo that shows the back enlarged. The Altec’s probably have some way to adjust their output, correct?

@elliottbnewcombjr

 

Thanks for your compliment.

 

I do active biamping on Altec A7 so that I can adjust tweeter horn level easily.

 

It also give more transparent sound.

https://youtu.be/hoZ_QaIlAK4

Recently I tend to play Scaena 3.2 more often since it give more realistic soundstage.

 

Of course, Lansche 4.1 give refiend treble due to plasma tweeter.

 

Thomas

kennymacc

"Like you, in my current home, in my current room"

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I just read every post, what an amazing collection of speaker designs.

I am thinking, for each person, their listening space is a big part of their thorough happiness with their chosen speaker. Of course budget is involved regarding which models are auditioned, and the budget does reflect in the size of the spaces that permit/restrict what essentially fits.

Room treatments, some, more, finally darn good for the space probably progresses along with various auditions, i.e. final choice is speakers auditioned in a successfully treated space.

Without my beloved level controls, there is NO WAY my speakers would sound great in this space. I would probably still be listening to my other favorite: JSE Infinite Slope Model II's. Their 'balance' was outstanding in the audio show, (a rare thing as many have mentioned), and simply/luckily sounded great in this space with no level controls.

As good as the JSE's are, I missed these, part sound signature, part looks, part emotional i.e. their origin/memories of my uncle/my personal involvement with designing new enclosures/repairing the woofers myself, acquiring spare parts, i.e. when listening, I cannot separate all that from their sound.

When I look at the lack of internal bracing (I thought I would have to add some), and the lack of cabinet vibrations, I shake my head at my woodworker's skill and just plain luck. 

Great stories from so many members here, thanks to OP for this thread.

Elliott

I had listened to Magico M9 about two hours ago in private audition.

 

M9 is the best modern speaker that I had ever heard.

 

After attending Pacific Audiofest 2022, 2023 and Seoul Audiofest, there are some nice speakers that draw my attention.

 

But none match natural and relaxed presentation of M9.

 

Of course I noticed no dynamic limitation playing Bruckner "Ressurection".

 

This could be real end game speaker if you can afford it.

 

Thomas

Some are never ever satisfied with their speakers or anything else, no matter how much they paid for them either, and will spend the rest of their lives buying speakers. There’s not a darned thing wrong with that. These types of audiophiles, however, just cannot except or wrap their heads around the fact that some/most of us have no interest in remaining on the speaker merry-go-round forever.  These types of audiophiles consider those of us who think contrary to their beliefs to be non-true audiophiles (which is utterly ridiculous). I depend on those types to keep the used market charged up, so I can afford to buy speakers that I would not ordinarily able to afford ("Thank you to our dear wealthy audiophiles"). We all go though several different speakers over time as we’re in experimental mode (this can be very costly). But, I do believe that the vast majority of audiophiles who do run though a number of different speakers do this as a means to an end, and are, in fact, in search of that truly special (to them) pair of speakers that they think they can live with for the rest of their lives. I have found that very special pair of speakers that, as long as live in my current home (I’m retired and I’m in my last residence in life) I’ll never give up my beloved Revel Salon 2 speakers.

Elliott - wow…that Rosewood is something else…..love it…..

OP with your celebration in Korea, you have already hit the lottery

@kennymacc

 

If you are happy with your Revel Salon speaker, that is going to be nice.

 

The problem of audiophile is to keep looking for different flavor like vintage wines.

I had been to my favorite vintage store in Seoul.

Western 757A monitor sounds very pleasant and refined.

 

 

This one is not original Western field coil system but replica made in Japan.

But it sounds fast and go deeper.

 

Magico M9 sounds like the best top grade whiskey with no faults at all.

But it is too heavy for my second floor listening room with wooden pillars.

On the other hand Western original or replica speaker sound like vintage wines.

They may not sound perfect but with peculiar flavor. 😀

 

 

I visited one of die hard vintage audiophile living in Korea yesterday.

He is 70 years old electric engineer who had collected more than 100 vintage gears but sold some of them as hobby.

His listening room on top of his factory building is large, 35ft w 60 ft deep 15ft high.

WE 16A horn 555W driver

Jensen PLJ PLM 18 double woofer

Tad 2001 tweeter.

Power amp is Westrex a11

Pre amp was built by him.

The source is vinyl with some strange ticking noise.

I will upload more videos from other speaekrs in the room.

 

 

Eva Cassidy sounds natural and gracious with the same system above.

If you have large listening room, this system could be your end game system.

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I was back to AV Plaza at Seoul, Korea to listen to Magico M9 on last Sunday

It is a very nice speaker but need more work with amp and Dac matching to get the optimal sound.

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I was back to my favorite vintage shop at Seoul Friday.

Japanese Western field coil replica was priced very favorably.

The shop owner recommend me to get the replica and then find original Western midrange and bass field coil drivers in due course.

He mentioned to me that power supply, bass box and treble horn of Japanese replica could be used for original Western drivers.

I could not make up mind this time.

But I will be back to Seoul April next year to see my newborn twin granddaughter.

Then I try to find best option with advice of Mr Chung of Silbatone.

 

I wish to get original Western field horn system before I die.😀

 

After being back to my home in Washington State, I pleayed my Scaena 3.2 augmented by pair of Rel 31 subwoofers.

It souud fast and exciting with realistic deep and wide soundstage.

But I noticed mid bass impact limited compared with Magico M9 or other vintage system with double 18 inch woofers.

Thus I had tried amping involving bass horn of Altec A7..

Using JL Audio Cr1 active crossober, I ended up using pair of Rel 31 and Sceana 18 inch subwoofers below 75hz.

The upper signal out of Cr1 goes to Accuphase F25.

Altec A7 basshorn covers from 75hz to 290 hz.

Main tower of Sceanea cover 290hz and up.

With this 4 way triamping system, I could almost get enough mid bass impact.

Thus I am happy with this combination so far.