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Best speaker Cable matching Wilson Audio Sasha
Currently using Kimble Kables 8TC to connect the amp to the Sasha speakers. But would like to upgrade to better suit higher end gear. Amp is Plinius SA-Reference, source is Wadia S7i cd player/DAC. Plinius connects to the Wadia by Transparent MusicLink Super interconnects.
What speaker cable would be recommended for my situation? I would prefer to keep the cost under $3,500. Cable length would be 20 feet.
What speaker cable would be recommended for my situation? I would prefer to keep the cost under $3,500. Cable length would be 20 feet.
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I would also look at the transparent lime but would want to be at the ultra line minimum better to look at the reference or higher. It has been along time since I listened to audioquest I never liked there silver wire from years ago but things improve found a hardness in the I didn't care for thinking back to lapis diamond days. Just started trying furutech wires the first one I am really fond of. Lots of detail and no hardness. That is with just one piece very limited experience with them at the moment.
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MIT has done not enough research to improve their cables. Audioquest has outperformed them easily. In the last 3 years I win every battle against MIT cables with ease. The distributer in my country stopped even with MIT. Because the sales of MIT are dramaticly. Transparent works very well in sets with tools which are not that easy in the mid and high freq. But.....you will loose too much details compared to cables like Audioquest Wel Signature. In the last months I found out that I outperform many highend sets based on a superior blacklevel, timing, individual focus, articulation of voices,open mid including the edge of a voice, deeper and wider stage and much more differences in height. This is based on more tools, but the cables still have a big influence on the overall sound! |
Transparent cables are easy to use cause of the musical mid freq. But......there is a limitation! When you want the best they never will give you ultimate blacks, timing and physical individuela focus of some competitors. When you compare their best cables with the pure silver Audioquest Wel Signature you know what you loose. Then there is no way back anymore. Audio is always about the best endresults. |
I think the thread you are thinking of is this one; http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?fcabl&1419362396 |
Audiolabyrinth, I knew his posts were BS. There are not the kind of topics that anyone at Tara would bring up. My guess is that he's from this company Behold. He made these 2 posts. "Hello! My name's Cody; I work for TARA Labs. Not here to promote anything, this is just a disclaimer. It seems that the majority of termination requests we receive at TARA Labs are for balanced (XLR) lines. Personally, I use unbalanced (RCA) interconnects with my Cary system setup, which seems to work quite well. I would be interested in hearing other opinions regarding XLR vs RCA? (Please note that I have posted this on a few forums. I am not spamming, but rather would like to hear a wider range of opinions. I will make an effort to respond to all appropriate posts.) Codytara (Threads | This Thread) 12-23-14" "Hello again! We at TARA Labs have been having a lot of fun auditioning new components for our listening room. One recent subject is our Behold Gentle G192 Media Player. It functions as a music server, amplifier and preamplifier, DAC, and DSP corrector. Musically the sounds are very detailed and well-defined, but without the analytical nuance quality that some digital components produce. Rather the sound seems well extended, airy and open overall. Has anyone else tried this media player? Are there any similar products that you have had good experiences with? Codytara (Threads | This Thread) 01-07-15" See what he's doing? In the first post he's kind of breaking the ice by talking about the connectors. Then, when he thinks he built up some credit, we get post number 2. There's really no question that he's a fraud. I'm sure that if Tara contacts Audiogon, they'll shut him down immediately. Now, the most important question. How the hell did you miss those 2 posts! lol! You're like a bloodhound for any threads mentioning Tara products. |
Hi Zd542, no, I have not noticed any one named Cody that say's he is from Tara lab's, what user name does he go by?, also, to be clear here, I know every one on the entire staff at Tara Lab's, and cody is not one of them, you can E-mail me to further conversate about this matter, likly would be best., thankyou for your reply, and the Tara lab's The Two is a fine cable, congrat's. |
"01-06-15: Audiolabyrinth Hi Zd542, what model Tara Cables do you have on your system?, everyone know's Tara Labs is my favorite cables above anything else, still, I do like Transparent cables, back in the day, Dan D Agostino when he was with krell, Dave Wilson, and Transparent cables were very good friend's, they started their business at the same time, and in turn, they use to have each other's equipment in one system for show audition's, do you remember that back years ago?" Sorry, I just noticed that post. I have The 2 IC's and speaker cables. And yes, I do remember back that far. I remember comparing The 2's to the Decades and as luck would have it, I preferred The 2's and they were only twice as much money as the Decade's. A bargain if there was ever was one. Also, regarding Transparent, have you ever noticed that everyone complains about the boxes on MIT cables but not on Transparent? I always wondered why that was so. One last thing, before I forget. No doubt you noticed this person, Cody I think, says he's from Tara and is asking a bunch of weird questions. Is he for real? His posts are really strange, and there's something about them that just doesn't seem legit. If you don't know who he is, its probably safe to assume that he's not with Tara. |
My focus is always on the end results. Because this will be the sound you will get. The results can be influenced on many different ways. My question first is if you are using the series 1 or series 2 of the Sasha. I think when you use series 1 I would go for copper. Because silver can cause some harshness in the mid and high freq. You need a long length and your max is (only) 3500 dollar. Let me tell you this. I have done thousends of tests and still counting. It never stops. As a perfectionist the best results counts and everything what is less good is useless in my world. When you test and listen to the best cables available, you are aware of one thing. THEY ARE AN ESSENTIAL NEED. They give you things even a poweramp which is 2 times as expensive will not give you. That is why I make my clients aware how to get the best endresults for the money they want to spend. Results counts most. This is how I work; to create a superior endresult compared to any competitor. Audio is that simple. And that is why the best and most convincing sound always will win. In my world it does!! Outperforming other competitors is the most fun in my job. And it gives you the biggest smile on your face all the time. 3500 dollar for a 20 feet cable is not a lot, when you see to the other parts of your set. I can garantee you that I could have created a superior endresult when I would have spend the money you spend on audio. All the parts togheter create the endresults including the acoustics. You speaker like any speaker has a level in quality. You want to get the most out of the level in quality it can give. I have proven that with the best loudspeakercables, interconnects and powercables it is easier to create a higher endresult than when you would spend this money on a more expensive poweramp, pre amp or source. I don't say that these parts are less important. Because they are still extreemly important. You can spend the money only once. I can garantee you that with the money you want to spend on loudspeakercables it is not in balance of the rest of your set. The weakest parts will still influence the endresults the most. A few examples I used here at audiogone a few times. Test with the Wadia S7i you also use. We compared a Heavensgate powercable ( 2000 euro) against the Purist Audio Limited Edition. The last one cost twice the price of the Heavensgate. We are amazed that it outpefromed the Heavensgate on all parts with a huge difference. We agreed that the level in quality was even more than double with the Purist. For a few months I own two sets of the latest Audioquest Wel Signature xlr interconnects. They put listening to music to a new level which I never experienced with any other system regardless price. 2nd and 3th voices are so much more physical and open and easy to hear. I never could hear the differences in heights this easy. Even with sets of 400.000 euro I could not hear it this good. Transparent uses only copper and give a musical involving sound. But........there is a big but.....when I compare it to the best Audioquest cables you are stunned how much detail is missing. How much lower the black level is. And how less sharp the individual focus of instruments and voices are comapred to the best silver cables of Audioquest. When you own the series one I still think copper will work best. But......silver will not work based on the properties of your tweeter and speaker. I am sure you will choose for copper. And I even understand. But.......in my world I know you will miss details and separation with a lower black level than what would be possible these days with other stuff. That is why audio is all about properties. When you are aware of each single property a speaker, cable, conditioner, amp, pre amp and source owns you have a chance to get the best out of it. BECAUSE IN MOST SIUATIONS MANY PEOPLE ONLY USE A PART OF THE QUALITY/PROPERTIES OF EACH TOOL THEY OWN! |
I have to also recommend staying with Transparent. I have Wilson loudspeakers and was amazed when I placed both the interconnects and speaker cables into my system. I am also using Super cables. It sounds as if you don't want to stay with Transparent? Try and find a used pair on here and try them. I was against them until my local dealer brought over a pair for me to try in my system. The sound now emits from a black background with a really low noise floor evident on those recordings that can take advantage of it. The soundstage also opened up as never before. I now use all Transparent cables except for their p/c's. |
Hi Zd542, what model Tara Cables do you have on your system?, everyone know's Tara Labs is my favorite cables above anything else, still, I do like Transparent cables, back in the day, Dan D Agostino when he was with krell, Dave Wilson, and Transparent cables were very good friend's, they started their business at the same time, and in turn, they use to have each other's equipment in one system for show audition's, do you remember that back years ago? |
For what it's worth, I have a pair of Sophia 3s and use Transparent for both ICs and speakers. I'm very pleased. Wilson recommends Transparent with their speakers. NAD streamed to Mac C2500 and Levinson amp. Problem is, I don't think The Cable co distributes Transparent to test. I'm sure your local Transparent dealer would give you a test drive. |