Bang for the buck


Hi all, I'm looking to get some feedback on great value/sound used speakers for a 14x11.5' room in an apartment. Are there any suggestions from audiosciencereview or your own experience that mate great sound with excellent value on the used market? I recently found a pair of Salk speakers at a good price, but their frequency response is the only measurement graph I can find. Plus, I wonder if a large part of that speaker price is due to the cost of the cabinet and its elaborate finish. I'm looking to put my money towards the music more than the cabinet jewelry finishes. (I'm on a budget <$2k). Thanks for any recommendations 

128x128labguy

Solid state front end. May upgrade to a better integrated but plan to stay solid state.

You didn’t mention what your front end is? Tubes, ss, receiver? Makes a huge difference on your pic. 

@labguy 

I don't want to speak for all members, but many believe that judging audio equipment predominantly based on measurement results is a flawed process.

Measurements are critical when considering a piece of equipment, but they believe that actually listening to a component should be the principle method of assessing its attributes. 

You judge food by tasting it, so it makes sense to listen to audio equipment.

 

Gotcha, thanks for rhe info.

It sounds kind of like how Rtings rates Tv's. They rate them without ever taking the tvs upscaling ability into account for their image rating (not every tv image is already in 4k guys). 

is that because ASR doesn't properly measure equipment

Good evaluation is test and listen to the product. They sometimes don't bother to listen. And when they do listen to a loudspeaker, they only listen to one...not a good way to listen to stereo loudspeakers. 

is that because ASR doesn’t properly measure equipment

yes, no proper double blind listening tests (see the way harman conducts blind listening tests for a proper example)

https://youtu.be/lj2xbgvIGbo

BTW, I recommend the JBL 580 or 590, on sale:

https://www.harmanaudio.com/sale/STUDIO+580BK.html?dwvar_STUDIO%20580BK_color=Black-USA-Current&amp;cgid=sale

Review:

https://youtu.be/odJ7YPPt30Y

I've had Salk SS6M speakers and Fritz's speakers. In all, I liked the Be tweeter speakers about equal but I liked the Fritz Carbon 7 better than the other two. 

https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/review-fritz-heiler-s-carbon-7-se-mk-2-bookshelf-speakers

https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/review-fritz-heiler-s-carrera-be-bookshelf-speakers

Someone reached out to me wanting to sell the Fritz Carbons for about $1k plus a bit. If you're interested P.M. me and I'll share his contact. He's in NY

@tony1954 is that because ASR doesn't properly measure equipment or just because the vast amount of personal experience found here definitely outweighs any measurements found elsewhere? I don't want steak from  a salad bar, but I would like to learn why you say that. Thanks!

@labguy 

"Are there any suggestions from audio science review?"

Seriously? Asking that here is like walking into a vegetarian restaurant and asking if they make a good ribeye.

 

 

Salk's are awesome, and many of their models are available in a lower cost plain finish. Great price due to manufacturer direct sales. I use a pair of their monitors in room a little smaller than yours. Magnepan LRS+ and .7 also great options, as Magnepan bass supposedly travels less through apartment walls.  There are some threads here that technically explain that. I have also owned the Magnepan.