Are my standards too high?

Standards too high? No, your ability to manipulate current technology is too low.

Hey Kenjit, sometimes I read your posts and just have to wonder when you're just going to accept that you're just not an audiophile.

Like me going into a flyfishing forum and asking what the point of wasting time making your own lures when you can buy them for pennies. 

Bro, this is a hobby that includes all levels of income and passion, have fun with it.

Kenjit, it’s not the speakers that are sub standard. Maybe have a hearing test done. With some training, even with hearing issues, you can learn to recognize the atrophied sounds you hear for what they really are, even if you don’t fully hear them. You will never be happy with what you hear if you don’t realize the real issues and why you arnt hearing what you expected. 

Kenjit?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1OtYpqT2tg

DeKay

Lol, seems like the perfect speaker 

dekay....Now, That's the epitomie of what K. fears is 'SOTA'. *LOL*

Well played...;)

Now, the 'Test Sequence':

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dq6T5BojXc8

...that motor is one helluva 'driver'...

....yesh, investigating the depths of the absurd....

I've yet to hit bottom, or the top of it all....;)

Urs, J

Ok K, look at these first, this is a VERY good system.
A lot to work with in a large bookshelf, FEW will match this set up.

Ampzilla 2000 Mono Block Amps - VMPS 626 Ribbon Speakers Trinaural System • RARE Pre-Owned

• $13,999.00
• or Best Offer
• +$600.00 shipping

The only (different) options, is bearded stands, EL34 mids/highs. and SS servo bass, FOR ME. It would be perfect for the pickiest of listeners. RIGHT NOW, pick a source and pure Nirvana.

That system was made by a musician, FOR a musician/mixing studio customer.. FINELY tuned and hand built and matched gear. ALL of it.. Amps an all.

Regards

D. on’t
F. eed
T. he
T. roll

let's all say it together

Rarely has a troll been so successful in reformulating the same basic "provocation" dozens of times and getting people to bite every single time.

Thanks for the CC approval of 15,000.00 I'll keep looking and settle with the AGon folks as soon as your done.. No, I don't do commissions. I'm retired. This one is one me.

It's a REALLY good deal, K. Folks really thought you were kidding, post the pic when they are set up.. Enjoy, I'll fly out if there is any problems, setting them up.. The four servo BASS columns will be done in about 6-10 weeks... No one in the lower 48 will have a better "SMALL" system. Excellent, choice..ONE in the world..

Regards

@mijostyn

Standards too high? No, your ability to manipulate current technology is too low.

But I have heard the cream of the crop Mijostyn. I have heard the KEF blades. These are very expensive cream of the crop state of the art speakers supposedly. Yet in my opinion, the level of standard is not good enough. What does that tell you about the engineers behind these things? That they aren't good enough?


@steve59  

Hey Kenjit, sometimes I read your posts and just have to wonder when you're just going to accept that you're just not an audiophile.Like me going into a flyfishing forum and asking what the point of wasting time making your own lures when you can buy them for pennies.

What makes you think I am not an audiophile? I think you have got it the wrong way around. I am a supreme audiophile. I am so great that the best speakers on the market that other audiophiles find brilliant are merely acceptable to me. 

@speedbump6 

Kenjit, it’s not the speakers that are sub standard. Maybe have a hearing test done.

Of course its the speakers. Do you think the current speakers on the market cannot be improved? In 500 years do you think we are still going to be listening to horrible wooden boxed with drivers in 'em? They will look back at the archives and laugh at what their ancestors had to put up with back in the year 2020! They will be reading this in the year 2500, and see what a brilliant audiophile i was. It's ok if people cant see it now. 

Rarely has a troll been so successful in reformulating the same basic "provocation" dozens of times and getting people to bite every single time.

 There is no evidence whatsoever that a troll cannot be a brilliant speaker engineer and an audiophile. You cannot claim victory by accusing me of being a troll. If you think you are a better audiophile than me I would like to see evidence please. 

@Kenjit Are your standards to high? Maybe, but what is your benchmark?

Kenjit:

Your OP’s and responses always seem to remind me of this iconic movie scene...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqwzuiSy9y0

And then, and then, and then why is this so (as I find it disturbing)?

DeKay

The Kef ls 50 is a moderate speaker at Best ,not even in the same bad breath as say any world class Monitor say $10-$20k.
it a very  good speaker in the  under $2k range for midrange treble 
no midBass or bass ,leave it at that. It’s a respectable class C speaker in Audiophile terms, The upper Kef Line is  a different story.

The Kef ls 50 is a moderate speaker at Best ,not even in the same bad breath as say any world class Monitor say $10-$20k.

Name me some world class monitors costing 20k. 

Its about listening to music first. 

Kenjit, he can ask the same question, you  prove you are a better audiophile than him. I’d say you’ve pretty much disproven that, as according* to you, there are no good speakers, when that is not the case. You just don’t seem to have the ability to hear well enough, and/ or the knowledge to understand what you’re hearing to discern what is good from what is not. Your made that clear to us over time, which is why people are saying you’re not an audiophile. It would be hard for a deaf person to be an audiophile also.  We cannot worry about what people will listen to in a few hundred years, as we won’t be here. And that’s a battle you can never win, the technology will always improve so there will always be something better over time. We have to deal with the tools we have at our disposal today, and base decisions on those choices. 

Vimberg 14k, with diamond tweeter 24k. Radhio td 1.2 with upgrades of internal wiring 25k. Borreson....11k and up...one on stands up to 40k. 

There’s many, he just wants names so he can tell you why he thinks they’re no good

No name callin' with the ones I posted, you see any?

That set up would be hard pressed to get a bad review, serious gear there for under 15K

Regards

What are you comparing what you hear at home to?  A particular concert hall you like?  A certain orchestra you love to hear playing there?  U2 on pyramid stage at Glastonbury?  Phantom of the Opera in the West End or Broadway?   Whatever - you do really think that you can buy a speaker which will make your bedroom sound like that?  Of course not.  Unless your bedroom is the Royal Albert Hall with the London Symphony Orchestra in it, it won’t sound like the Royal Albert Hall with the London Symphony Orchestra in it. 
Audio at home is an illusion, but at least it is one where you get shape your delusions. 

Are your standards too high ?   Yes they are,   I’d just give up and buy the “Professional BY1050 Outdoor HIFI Column Speaker Wireless Bluetooth Speaker Subwoofer Sound Box”  on Wish.

simply download the Wish app,  they sell for 2 dollars.

Hey he's getting what he wanted, lots of attention and flaming.
Ignore, ignore, ignore. He is just a troll.

Speaking of trolls, where is @millercarbon?

Folks, last time the OP did this, his entire thread was removed. That was a good thing. Since he is clearly trolling, all you have to do is report this activity to the moderators. The 'Report this' text appears at the bottom right of any post including the OP; hover the mouse there and click on it, then select 'other' and in the text box explain that the opening post is trolling. If we all do that maybe this thread will go away.

@bluemoodriver,

"Whatever - you do really think that you can buy a speaker which will make your bedroom sound like that?"

"Audio at home is an illusion, but at least it is one where you get shape your delusions."


That’s a hugely relevant point since hardly anyone talks about the limitations (or expectations) of audio playback. The usual mantra is that every new product is wonderful, much better than the previous one. All you need to do is to keep on upgrading, blah, blah, blah..

I think some folks will inevitably drift into serious audio from the world of Walmart / Bluetooth systems etc without any real idea of what is or is not actually possible.

Their initial expectations may or may not meet with disappointment many years and many dollars later upon discovering what is actually possible by domestic audio, at any price.

So to entirely avoid this dilemma it’s a great idea to listen to what are considered the best systems currently available and see if they work for you.

If they don’t, then although it’s not impossible, it’s unlikely that anything else will either.

At least the OP has managed to listen to both the KEF LS50s and the Blades and whilst his opinions might be shared by some, others might feel different, ie they are both awesome designs pushing the sonic envelope at their price points.

Giving the OP the benefit of the doubt, it could simply be that his views are a reflection of the difference between comparing against an absolute sonic ideal or merely comparing against the existing competition.

It’s quite clear by now that he’s dissatisfied with most of what is currently available. Maybe, just maybe he really does believe he is on some evangelical mission to raise the prevalent sonic standards of domestic audio playback?

If so, then long may he continue.