Riaa we had esoteric the t+awas far better alsowe are streaming ripped cds as well a tidal and qubuzz te ripped cds sounded better then the esotric k01 spinninging them
We used to sell aurende the innous sounded far better and 432Evo beats the innous
It is a same you dont know anything your crack about t+a shows the the company is considered d to make some of the finest gear on the market
Also kef blades are considered to be fantastic speakers
Your hostiity towards our store is unwarranted
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You are free to visit th store to señor yourself
Dave and troy
Audio intellect nj
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The individual who purchased my Jay's Audio transport MK-II is waiting for the new board replacement that would bring the transport to a MK-3 status. As soon as he gets it, I'll let you guys know how it compares to the Pro-Ject transport driving the same DAC (s) in my systems. This hopefully will be next week vs months away.
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@amorstereo (Terry),
thanks for the info, that's really great, I'm looking forward to your outcome of the comparison, very exciting. |
That’s great to hear Teajay. With less B&M dealers and a seemingly shrinking number of demo-able / trial period brands, we need more ‘philes to team up and plan comparisons. |
@amorstereo Any chance you would be able to compare the recently release PS Audio SACD Transport anytime soon? :) |
Is there any way to program tracks with the Pro-ject? I looked at the manual on their website, and couldn’t find anything. |
@audiotroy - you shouldn’t post while under the influence. It makes you appear to be incompetent. |
Not to mention in another thread he said he compared a 10 Year Old Model Esoteric K-01 to his current streaming service. His "Store" I am told is his dining room in his house LOL He's been busy the past couple of days reviving DEAD threads of T+A Gear to try to drum up business. Mortgage Banker must be knocking on the door :) How pathetic
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@amorstereo Watching this thread with interest. Look forward to the comparison of the Jays vs Pro-ject |
Hey everybody,
Just got through with my evaluation of using Pro-ject's own up-graded linear power supply, which I stated earlier in this thread lead to significant improvements over their standard switch-mode power supply, with Linear Tube Audio's own customized linear power supply. LTA changed the rating from 12V-3A to 20V-3A.
These subtle but easy to hear positive changes were:
1) Transient speed and overall dynamics/aliveness increased.
2) The sound-stage opened up with more air around instruments.
3) Transparency/clarity went to a higher level.
4) The purity of timbres/tonality/colors increased.
Great stuff! The Linear tube Audio power supply costs $645, which is about two hundred dollars less than Pro-ject unit. Therefore, my conclusion is if you get this transport, go for the Linear Tube Audio power supply.
On to the topic of comparing the Pro-Ject to the Jay's Audio MKIII. My friend will be installing the new board to bring the transport to MKIII status in the next couple of days. We will let it burn-in for a few days and then do the side by side comparison in my system and report back with our findings in the next two weeks.
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Thanks Terry. Regarding my question above, I assume there must be a way to program tracks? It would seem a rather glaring omission, if not. |
Hey tommylion,
To be quite frank, I never program tracks, so I never thought about it! Why don’t you go to Pro-ject’s website and take a look at the owner’s manual to see how to engage this feature. If it's not in the manual send an Email to them for an answer to your question. |
Upgraded power supplies seem to always produce improved sound. |
I emailed the Pro-ject US importer about programming tracks, and this is the reply I received: Thanks for reaching out. The RS2 T does not support track programming. It is a pure CD transport playback device.
Best regards, Pro-Ject Customer Support Team@ Pro-Ject USA The lack of the ability to program tracks may not matter to some, but, for me, it's likely a deal killer. I get putting sound quality over features, but I’m having a hard time understanding how implementing track programming would impact sound quality??? This is the first transport/player I’ve run across without it. Just wanted others who may be considering the CD Box RS2 to be aware of this omission. |
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Hey Nonoise,
Nope, this transport does not use the Tiger platform. |
I scrolled briefly through the thread to see if this was addressed, but I didn't see it (or just missed it) Arthur Salvatore once made comparisons using Esoteric transports and dacs and his conclusion was that the better transport with the lesser dac sounded better than the lesser transport with the better dac. He was talking about all top-line Esoteric gear mind you.
I think it would be interesting if you did a comparison of say the Pro-ject into the Orchid vs the Jay's into the May. I know you sold the Jay, but I'm just giving an example. I think it would be helpful to those who have a good transport/dac combo but are looking to upgrade only one. |
For the uninformed Esoteric stopped using DAC Chips 1-2 years ago. Makes no sense comparing an older line (X or XS) of their Spinners/Dacs to their newer players. Ive had both...dont sound similar at all. Use to be voiced more aggressively. Now its more analog-like.
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@amorstereo,
Ah shucks. I thought it was a cheaper implementation of the one you're using.
On another (musical) note, did you find the coax out to give just as great results? I ask because I'm thinking of getting the Technics SU-G700 and feeding it, for now, with the coax out from an older CDP I have until I can save up for the Pro-Ject Box RS2.
It's all in the planning stages but I need to know what I'm in for.
All the best,
Nonoise |
I bought a rs2 cd box the OP spoke of...
It is beyond sublime... I always thought my rega RP8 was best in my system even compared to my sacd player.. Then got the rs2 cd box playing into the same chord qutest... Now here (or should that be hear) is the nub
Playing hybrid SACD my project sounds better playing the CD layer than my arcam sounds playing the SACD layer on the same disc. Not just one example either... All of the hybrid ones I own
And as for tidal master... There is no comparison... This old 80s tech still has its place... |
And I just picked up a project 4 way power supply less than 1/3 price off the dreaded Bay... Does sound better but will need to do proper listen before I offer thoughts but straight off... Better seperation, wider SoundStage and bass seems to have sharper bigger punch (a bit the bass I get from vinyl)
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Can someone measure how much clearance is needed to fully open the Project RS2 when changing disks? My shelving room is a little tight and I’m not sure I’ll be able to fully open the top.
Thanks,
Tim |
Hey Tom,
Including the height of the transport chassis you will need about 10 inches with the lid wide open to comfortably change discs. You could get away with maybe a few inches shorter,but you would have to be much more attentive/careful when placing the CD and clamp during operation for the next disc.
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Teajay;
Thank you. Unfortunately, that may be a deal breaker. Especially since I really love my Jays CDT2 Mk2. I probably will just move up the Jays line. Thanks to you I have the Jays in my system and the sound has been superb. So, a little more Jays goodness might be exactly what I would want anyway.
I’m just having a difficult time figuring out which Jays I want to try.
Thanks again,
Tim |
My dealer says the RS2 is no longer available till November because they are going through some optical drive issues with their current production.
Can anyone else confirm this?
Am dying to buy one :) |
My dealer says the RS2 is no longer available till November because they are going through some optical drive issues with their current production.
Can anyone else confirm this?
Am dying to buy one :)
Don't know if this is true or not, but, if it is, maybe they could use this opportunity to add track programming? Still shaking my head at that omission. |
I just read a post on another forum complaining about excessive noise coming from some of these pro-ject rs2 transports. For the people that own them can you comment if you have heard any excessive noise when spinning disc’s ? |
@jaudio1, I read the same in a YT comment and asked that in this thread already.
Also, just checked the Audio Advisor website and sure enough, it says the transport will be available again in November. And just when I was poised to purchase in July…
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Guys, absolutely no issues with noise coming from the transport. My review sample has worked flawlessly after hundreds of hours of use. I also checked with the importer who said both statements (noise problems/lack of product) are not correct. Yes, like virtually all high-end gear there is a longer waiting time than usual, but no problems with their production. |
Hey Tejay...have you compared the Pro-Ject with the updated Jays cd2 mk3 version with the better clock and other upgrades yet ? |
Any news with comparing the RS2 against the Jay's CDT2 Mk3? |
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Guys,
I have been a huge fan of Jay’s CD Transport for over 2
years owning both MK2 and MK3 and have enjoyed the performance gains I have
attained over many other transports. I sold my MK3 a few days before my
Pro-Ject CD Box RS2T arrived and have been spinning discs on my MK2 and its
without question that the MK3 is an improvement over the MK2, especially in the
sound staging and imaging department where the sound is pulled inward from the
boundary of the loudspeakers and the sound stage is much deeper.
Just like many that have bought the Pro-Ject and voiced
their impressions on the differences they have heard between several transports
are Spot-On! Clarity, separation, layering, imaging, sound staging, image
width/depth/height, timing and it goes on and on and must be heard to Believe…
I am hearing things effortlessly with speed, impact, detail and with a
dimensionality I didn’t think was possible but what I find amazing is how each
instrument is separate and occupy its own space within the sound stage and you
can almost feel the space between the layers of music developing. This is very
noticeable on string instruments after the initial pluck where the pressure
“swell” and the notes appear to Pro-Ject toward the listening position in an
enveloping and immersive listening experience.
Over the past two days, I have been up until 2 AM listening
to my new RS2T and just can’t believe how spacious and airy the sound is and
the bass is so textured, deep and impactful…
I like the analogy mentioned by Bigkidz as “bay windows”,
the floor noise appears to be nonexistent which allows such clarity and a
beautiful soundstage to emanate from a space that has no boundaries and imaging
is So natural and realistic sounding; It’s quite Amazing to say the least and
will see what LTA will bring to the table… Wig
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Best place in USA to purchase this unit, with upgraded power supply AND upgraded connecting cable? Thanks! |
@wig,
Thank you for taking the time to express your listening impressions. Your comments along with those of @bigkidz has caught my attention. If I do decide at some point to replace my current CD transport, the Pro-Ject RS2T is the very likely destination (With a linear power supply 😊). High praise indeed that you and others find it better sounding than the esteemed Jay's Audio CD transport.
Charles |
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Why bother with places like those that offer ZERO discount?? Buying from a Mom and Pop dealer can get you up to 20% off. If you need to buy "on time" then I can see the benefit to buying from Musicdirect etc BUT if you have the coin on hand thats an incredibly bad decision.
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This may be a good opportunity for those interested to hook up with @ riaa; with that saving, an LTA LPS+ is at hand 😁 |
Gave the links simply because someone asked and I googled and those 2 came up came up. Why don’t you - riaa - tell everyone which dealers are offering discounts on the transport, including what percent from each . Below is the dealer locator - supply the list https://pro-jectusa.com/dealer-locator/ |
I notice that the manual states:
"Never use any other power supply than the one supplied with the unit - except suitable Pro-Ject Power Box RS device"
and, under the Warranty section -
"The manufacturer accepts no responsibility for damage caused by not adhering to these instructions for use."
Not saying you shouldn’t use a third-party LPS; just a heads-up that you might want to think twice about publicly stating you are using one. |
I already have my contacts for dozens of brands. Everybody should if they've been in this hobby for awhile and have made lots of purchases. Ive always been willing to steer people in the right direction if it can save them some coin. No skin in the game for me. If people can reciprocate down the road and hook me up with a brand that I dont have contacts for GREAT. If not its fine. Only an Idiot would PUBLISH his sources on a forum. Business savvy just isnt some people's strong suit. Probably why they cant get good deals to begin with.
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Given the feedback on this thread it seems indisputable that a linear power supply is superior to the stock wall wart power supply for the Pro-Ject CD Box transport. Does anyone have any idea how the LTA power supply compares to Pro-Ject’s own linear power supply option?
@wig provide a link for the LTA power supply and its description is quite impressive.
Charles |
Here's what the OP noted between the 2 power supplies:
"Just got through with my evaluation of using Pro-ject's own up-graded linear power supply, which I stated earlier in this thread lead to significant improvements over their standard switch-mode power supply, with Linear Tube Audio's own customized linear power supply. LTA changed the rating from 12V-3A to 20V-3A.
These subtle but easy to hear positive changes were:
1) Transient speed and overall dynamics/aliveness increased.
2) The sound-stage opened up with more air around instruments.
3) Transparency/clarity went to a higher level.
4) The purity of timbres/tonality/colors increased.
Great stuff! The Linear tube Audio power supply costs $645, which is about two hundred dollars less than Pro-ject unit. Therefore, my conclusion is if you get this transport, go for the Linear Tube Audio power supply."
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Hi @wig,
Much appreciation for that. Obviously the LTA linear power supply is a very high quality unit. Any confirmation or concern about possible voided warranty coverage from Pro-Ject if alternative brand power supplies are utilized?
Charles |
Boukman, I bought mine from Walter/Underwood Wally. Very happy. |
No confirmation on warranty other than that which was previously mentioned but the OEM SPS is not made in Europe. |
On the surface it would seem that the LTA LPS would be low risk , here’s an excerpt from LTA’s website - Project transports are one unit specifically referenced for using their LPS with. Apparently they tailor the LPS to the speciifc brand/model power requirements Though designed for our MZ2, the LPS+ is an excellent linear power supply for many components that accept an external power supply. By default, the LPS+ outputs 12V / 3A, but custom voltages and amperages can be accommodated. If you have been considering another linear power supply, you owe it to yourself to consider the LTA LPS+. Here are just a few of the products customers can improve with our LPS+: Lumin Digital Audio Products Mytek DACs Pro-ject CD transports, Phono stages, Streamers… Chord DACs CAmbridge Audio DACs RME DACs Roon Nucleus Intel NUC iFi Audio Amps and DACs Sonore MicroRendu & UltraRendu SOtM Streamers Topping DACs Wyred4Sound DACs Many others…
You will be asked to specify your device name and electrical requirements when adding the LPS+ to your cart. |
@facten,
Yes I saw that via @wig's link above. Agree probably a low risk scenario. I just wonder if Pro-Ject would use this as a reason for non supporting warranty issues if they should arise. Just openly speculating.
Charles |
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