-20 DB Volume Measurment


I play my music in the 85 db range on my db meter on my phone. Comfortable but in the range of live music at a concert (except The WHO). The music has transient peaks at 90 db. On the volume knob of my Benchmark pre-amp this equates to a volume level of -20DB give or take. Does that mean my amp has another 20DB to go before the amp hits peak power output and starts to clip? 

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I'm sure others will cover the technical aspect adequately. I'd just like to note that in your scenario, it's dangerous to assume you have 20dB of headroom available on your amp (dangerous if you try to push it in that direction). It doesn't work like that, especially in the modern era where digital sources have extremely high output signal levels (many balanced DACs pushing out 4 - 5 Volts), and combined with any preamp gain this typically means you can easily drive your amp to clipping long before you tap your preamp's maximum gain. 

The preamp and amplifier do not communicate with each other. The amplifier gains the signal from the preamp and the preamp does a negative voltage gain on the signal (the volume pot reduces the voltage from the source then it’s amplified it to a lower voltage than the source before sending it out to the amplifier. Which is why a preamp does more harm than good with only one source attached).

For example, a CD player puts out a constant 2V signal. This is the reference voltage for the preamplifier and is designated as 0dBFS. That means that any voltage below 2 Volts will be a negative dB. So when the volume setting is at "-20dB" the 2 Volt signal from the CD player is output at 0.2 Volts. Turn the volume to "-10dB" and the preamp puts out 0.6 Volts.

The amplifier takes the preamp signal -- no matter what it is -- and gains it up by the rated dB gain. If the amplifier clips (say) at 1.3 Volt signal input, then that would be (1.3 / 2) fraction of the CD player voltage which would be "-4 dB" on the preamp volume setting, so a 16 dB range of turn from the "-20 dB" position is the amount of volume knob travel available before clipping.

 

 

 

Hi OP:

It used to be we used volume knobs from 0 to 10. Now it’s from negative infinity to 0.

The dB scale is relative to maximum gain of the preamp. It’s just a multiplier which goes from 0 to 1. -20 dB is 0.1 x the input.  On my DAC, 0 dB means the volume is at maximum, then I use the volume on my integrated.

The one big advantage of this type of reporting is it will give you a relative indicator of volume. For instance, if you are paying at -20 dB, and you read 90 dB on the SPL meter, turning your volume to -30 dB will reduce the volume you hear by 10 dB, to 80 dB.

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No, it's more a reference of the input level. Your preamp is telling you that at -20db it is lowering the input signal by that amount. It is independent of your amp.