Tidal FLAC vs. Qobuz


Does the recent change by Tidal, from MQA to FLAC make Tidal the better choice for streaming?  Or, since Tidal only seems to offer FLAC on its own app and not the BluOS defeat the purpose since you need to transmit by Bluetooth instead of ethernet?  

Currently, I stream from Tidal over direct ethernet cable to a Bluesound Vault streamer, to a McIntosh amp and Revel speakers.  I have a trial membership to  Qobuz but I find Tidal has a much better catalog.  Since Tidal added Flac I thought it would be the obvious choice moving forward, but isn't the point of FLAC defeated since you need to send wirelessly from the Tidal app over Bluetooth?

mojo771

I used to be with tidal and loved it with MQA. Tidal also has more of the newer music (jazz, blues, prog rock, hard rock, new age) than Qobuz. But the BB/tidal fiasco sent me over to Qobuz. After converting all of my music over, I have some albums on Qobuz that have multiple tracks that are “unavailable” which can’t be played. The description for this is that the artist put a restriction that these songs could not be streamed thru Qobuz, but I streamed these just fine with tidal. So now I have to purchase these albums. The jury is still out on qobuz

If you're utilizing the BlueOs via a phone (apple or android) or tablet to control your Node and the source is Tidal, you aren't using bluetooth if everything is connected to your wi-fi network. The only way you would be using bluetooth is if you're using Apple Airplay or your Vault isn't connected directly to the internet. 

I stream Spotify/Radio Paradise/Tidal on my CXN via the Cambridge StreamMagic app over my wi-fi network. Bluetooth never enters the picture.

 

@bipod72 Yes, but you're not getting the highest audio resolution.  Qobuz has h res flac, and the Tidal Connect app does, but not regular Tidal.  

I can stream Tidal and Qobuz direct to my Bluesound and the phone is merely a remote.  But to get hi-res flac from Tidal you have to use the Tidal Connect app on your phone, but can only play over a 2 channel amp / tower speakers by using wireless hifi.  Wireless defeats the purpose of Tidal Connect and hi res streaming  

@mojo771 I get high-res because my CXN is directly connected to the internet via ethernet. My phone is merely the control just like you but I control via my wi-fi connection. I"m not transmitting the stream from my phone.

"But to get hi-res flac from Tidal you have to use the Tidal Connect app on your phone, but can only play over a 2 channel amp / tower speakers by using wireless hifi."

This isn’t necessarily true. If the Vault is connected to the internet via ethernet and the Vault is a direct input on your system, then the app on your phone is still just a wi-fi controller. Tidal Connect streams do not travel through the smartphone or tablet on their way to the paired network streamer.

I’m not sure if the OP’s Vault is directly connected to the net via ethernet or not. If the OP Is connecting the Vault via Wi-Fi, then yes high-res is compromised.

Except Spotify / Tidal are not hi res.  Only Qobuz is high res flac.  Qobuz also has many cd quality options that are not hi res flac. Tidal is mqa, which many say is not really hi res, Which is why they went to flac (on some recordings) but only thru Tidal Connect app.  And Tidal says you cannot get hi res flac unless you go to their Tidal Connect App which is not available on the Bluesound, so only mqa.