Have we lost civility and respect on Audio forums?

Real conversation is possible when we recognize that our mutual conceptions could be and are usually "beliefs" ...

Using double blind test to protect your belief in a set of electrical measures as the ONLY measure of truth is not science. it is techno-cultism...

I already used simple blind test many times... I did not need to submit to a double blind test to convince you ... My system/room convince me and it is enough ... There is only one person here accusing others of "irrational beliefs" and asking before any discussion to double blind test standard... Everybody who did not do it is irrational and superstitious gullible consumers for you..

Do you see that we are not the only one with a "belief" here ? All the others here live with a set of perception which are well founded or not, deceptive or not, anyway they "perceive" it as real for them ...Their perceptions can be falsified by themselves without need for your double blind public test... They may use simple blind test for a cable for themselves... As i did... It is enough for someone who want to create his system experience...

Your belief that all audio phenomenon must be reduced to a known set of electrical measures cannot be falsified ..it is not science but techno-cultism...

Do you get the difference... Nobody here saying that their cables make a difference try to convince you, they only state their experience as a fact for them , right or wrong ... The refusal of their experience as only that, a subjective testimony, by you in the name of an unfalsifiable limited set of electrical measures and in the name of a future impractical double blind test is like religious propaganda ...It is the reverse attitude of high price cables marketers publicity... I hate publicity and dogmas be it from ideologues in techno cultism or from marketers...

Myself i will keep simple blind test as a useful tool with no public objectivist official protocol as enough for my needs ...I am not into scientist faith, i am in the simple journey to create minimal acoustical satisfaction threshold ...And by the way i modified all my low cost cables myself ...

“Real conversations” between people with opposing beliefs can not happen if either party is unwilling to even consider the possibility that they may be wrong.

Sealioning again I see...

Do not feed the trolls.

I think the difference is most people don’t want their beliefs to be challenged even if they are wrong. As I have said before, if the basic cables I use actually are not audibly transparent I really do want to know. But it’s going to take verifiable objective evidence to persuade me. Not anecdotal evidence, “trust me” testimonials or arguments from authority. If something as basic as verifiable evidence is too high a bar to clear that should be a huge red flag. 

So if you hear a difference with your basic cables compared to others out there, you won't believe your own ears until you find a way to measure it? Must suck to be you. 

All the best,
Nonoise

nonoise

So if you hear a difference with your basic cables compared to others out there, you won't believe your own ears until you find a way to measure it?

This guy has extreme confirmation bias, so it's unlikely he'd hear a difference:

I know, as much as it can be known that basic cables are audibly transparent ...

@wharfy i remember when that happened to you.  My daughter punched a hole in the cone of my Gato FM6 speaker when she was 2.  lol 😂 I lost my mind that day.  We had the biggest kid adult daddy daughter argument in the world that day. She won’t even go near my set up anymore. lol. But I agree I post a thread like this. I get people calling me a shill. Saying I’m hurting in sales etc.  look we let you try before you buy at INFIGO cables.  It’s crazy some of the disrespectful stuff people say. Like we are 5 year olds who can tell a difference in how smthg sounds. Lol 😂 Folks will take a thread and turn it into world war 6 if you let them.