Have we lost civility and respect on Audio forums?

deep_333

It almost sounds like you’re living with absolute certainty that we know everything there is to know.

It is worse than that. He insists that he knows all there is to know:

I know, as much as it can be known that basic cables are audibly transparent ... I know as much as something can be known that power cords make no actual difference ...

It’s not possible to have a real conversation with someone who believes they know it all.

EDIT - And then look at what he just claims literally in the post below:

I never claimed to be any kind of expert either.

He’s a troll, folks.

uberk

Would love to engage with fellow McIntosh and Nordost users ... without all the BS. Still looking for a forum like that

Audioaficionado.org "The Friendly Forum For High-End Audio." It has many experienced users and none of the nonsense that sometimes plagues threads here.

calvinj

... thanks for the suggestion.  I wasn’t referring to you in my response ...

Oh, understood, I figured that out! After a while, it's easy to follow the players here.

I mentioned audioaficionado.org not only because it really is the Friendly Forum For High-End Audio, but also because there are some real McIntosh experts there.

scottwheel

It’s so much safer to try to discredit someone who challenges your beliefs than to even try to have a real conversation with them ... And that is why it is impossible for you to have a real conversation with me on these issues in audio. You have to protect your emotional investment.

Logical fallacy, ad hominem:

"Ad hominem ...Typically this term refers to a rhetorical strategy where the speaker attacks the character, motive, or some other attribute of the person making an argument rather than attacking the substance of the argument itself."

And - you’ve made a circular argument to boot! That’s another logical fallacy:

"Circular reasoning ... also known as circular logic) is a logical fallacy in which the reasoner begins with what they are trying to end with."

And now you claim:

I don’t believe I know it all.

C’mon. You’ve insisted you know all there is to know on some audio matters.

I know, as much as it can be known that basic cables are audibly transparent ... I know as much as something can be known that power cords make no actual difference ...

nonoise

So if you hear a difference with your basic cables compared to others out there, you won't believe your own ears until you find a way to measure it?

This guy has extreme confirmation bias, so it's unlikely he'd hear a difference:

I know, as much as it can be known that basic cables are audibly transparent ...