Testing Ethernet switch


If you have bought an "audio" Ethernet switch, don't bother with this thread 

If you question Ethernet switches, here is one test of one brand. 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMFQ3YvR3Eo&t=914s

 

tvrgeek

I have been quiet on this thread or a while as it devolved.  I am going to step back in gently to point out to @tvrgeek that I did point you to proof that other things are carried along. Hans Beekhuyzen measured it. You dismissed it as irrelevant. Yet, it is there. You believe it cannot impact the sound quality and it’s possible you’re correct. But, you disallow for the possibility that you are not correct. There is noise on the circuit. It can be measured. 

May I suggest that we discontinue the discussion. Some of us have experience beneficial impact from improved network switches. Others believe that cannot be the case. There is some evidence to support both positions. Neither position is fully validated by what is known or what can be measured. 

Let’s leave it there.

Peace.

 

Oh yeah, it's the placebo effect when the sound stage suddenly jumps two feet on both sides.  That's really hard to discern 🤣🤣.  Lists of "boutique" hardware at least demonstrate that my system is more than capable of revealing subtle (and not so subtle) differences.  

The more you ramble, the more you seem to ignore actual empirical evidence in the area that we are actually all here for, listening to music, and instead just fall back on why it's impossible for anyone to actually hear those things.

It's so sad when science becomes nothing but blind faith and religion. 

@mgrif104 

Hans Beekhuyzen measured it. You dismissed it as irrelevant. Yet, it is there. You believe it cannot impact the sound quality and it’s possible you’re correct. But, you disallow for the possibility that you are not correct. There is noise on the circuit. It can be measured.

Amir, the ASR crew and current fanatics have a history of exactly this. They will claim something could not possibly have any effect, then when a measured difference is shown, they will immediately move the goal posts to saying it’s too small to be audible, then demand double blind tests. This way they never have to admit being wrong.

They have been doing this since long before the current networking debates.

 

 

Hans said he had no idea what it could be, but he THINKS he heard it. 

One more time, an extra ordinary claim needs extra ordinary proof. 

 

One more time, an extra ordinary claim needs extra ordinary proof. 

It's actually quite easy, something I have used with success in the past. 

Try it in your own system (buy used or borrow from dealer). If you like it, and you can afford it, game over. At the end of the day, it has to impress YOU! No amount of external "proof" is ever going to be a substitute for actually hearing the component in your own system.