How Audiphiles are Different


So, I can’t spell Audiophile. Doh.

Again, moving this to a new thread to avoid polluting the OP that got me thinking about this.

A couple of events have intersected for me which made me realize just how very different audiophiles can be. Not just in their tastes but the very way in which the ear/brain mechanism is wired for them. This then profoundly affects their priorities in equipment and rooms. There is no one right way to be but those who argue purity of reproduction is the only reason to be an audiphile, well, I have news for you...

At a show many years ago the rooms varied a great deal in the amount of acoustic treatments. Some very expensive gear was in some really poor sounding rooms. From a couple of these rooms I overheard several participants talk about how great the demos were. I was a little surprised. I couldn’t hear anything. All I could hear was the ocean spray of the room.

After this somewhere I read about how exhausting meeting room and class rooms can be. Our brain is always listening through the room acoustics for words. This takes effort. In a reflective room we literally burn more calories just listening than we do in a dampened room. It makes it harder to study or listen, and we get tired more quickly. I’ve also thought about how musicians listen and how many of them don’t hear the recording or the room, they hear the musician's technique. Their brain’s entire symbol system and language is wired to feel technique and expression.

I have hypothesized these things:

  • Some of us can listen through bad room acoustics much more easily than others
  • Being able to hear minute differences (say in DACs) which don’t appear in steady state tests may very well be possible given long term averaging or some other feature we replicate in modern machine learning/neural networks.
  • We train ourselves to be different types of listeners.

And as a result:

  • Different listeners have different ear / brain wiring which focuses their preferences one way or another.
  • At least to some degree this must be something we learn/train ourselves to do.
  • If this is something we can train ourselves to do maybe we should be careful to train ourselves to listen for musical enjoyment rather than discriminating across equipment.
  • We should embrace the diversity of audiophiles rather than claim a single purity of purpose.
  • Charlatans and snake oil salesmen will never go away.

All of this is just about ear / brain mechanisms. It’s also possible some of us have physical receptors or a combination of different ears/different brains which cause us to hear differently. I remember chatting with a rare lady who was an audiophile and she pointed out that for years she couldn’t listen to DAC’s. They gave her headaches. This was about the same time that DAC’s started getting good at Redbook playback.

What are your thoughts?

 

erik_squires

Your speakers absolutely should not distort at all. If they do, then they are not going to accurately reproduce the distortion of the recorded instrument. If you want to recreate that instrument as you claim you cannot be adding additional distortions. If you do, it is not the recorded instrument you are hearing. Perhaps you like that but then your musical pedigree loses its value in the argument you are presenting.

If you are listening from the choir loft next to the pipe organ you aren't hearing the same thing as the audience either.

It only makes sense. It's the same in life with everything. Everybody prefers different things. Nobody is the same. Hence we are called individuals. And I am grateful for that. How sad would the world be if we were all alike. My system sounds best, period 😉

@erik_squires 

Great stuff!

You are actually, in the main,  are referring to The Perception of Hearing.

Perhaps you and others will find an article on page 42 of HiFi Critic, Vol.12/No.1 (Jan-Mar 2018) of interest?

It was written from my personal experience, with only the odd typo edited by the publisher. 

Cheers!

BP

It would be a really droll industry if everyone liked the same speakers, amp, room treatment etc etc.  No need for going to audio shows. Or visiting showrooms.  We are individuals with vastly differing tastes and viewpoints.  And it changes with age and experience.

We start with a common interest, audio and hi-fi, We comment here on forums and we share experience and opinions. But I think something else takes over that is more significant than our common interest in audio. The temperament, arrogance, humbleness, patience or impatience and other human qualities weave into the conversation and ugliness comes out. In my opinion, it’s like road rage because the personality and "true self" emerges of any individual. Your fellow "audiophile" can be helpful or can be very rude and inconsiderate. They can be dumb and mean. One can walk away with the feeling, "I could be friends with that fellow" or one could say "I think that guy is a total jerk". So IMO that aspect I just mention has the ability to quickly "over ride" or "over shadow" any ideas about "audiophiles are different". Audiophile is a much smaller aspect of who we are....