Luxman tonality


I’ve seen many members describing the Luxman 509x and the m duo as warm thus colored. I’ve had these units and have never thought of them as bright or dark(warm). They are superbly neutral to me neither adding or subtracting. I find them to be very musical. A prospective buyer might pass on Luxman thinking that they won’t match up with many speakers. Of course they will. Neutral is neutral. It’s what we should want.

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millercarbon you really nailed this comment well.

“What happened was we stopped listening and started measuring“

I have the exact problem dealing with this in the telescope industry. What happened is they stopped observing and started measuring.

Now we have amateur astronomers who think they know more than they really do. 
Amateur astronomers perform tasks such as the discovery of new comets, planets and stars in the universe [1,2].

Listening and measuring are not mutually incompatible tasks. 

I love the neutral sound of my Luxman CL1000 preamplifier with my ARC 250SE monoblocks.

[1] https://www.sciencealert.com/saturn-sized-planet-is-the-first-exoplanet-completely-discovered-by-ama...
[2] https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/ask-the-experts-how-do-amateur-astronomers-discover-comet...
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millercarbon you really nailed this comment well.

“What happened was we stopped listening and started measuring“

I have the exact problem dealing with this in the telescope industry. What happened is they stopped observing and started measuring.

Now we have amateur astronomers who think they know more than they really do. 
To a man with a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

No amount of measurements will ever give you the ability to look at the night sky and visualize your place in the cosmos. The phase of the moon shows you where the sun is, the planets glide along the ecliptic through their seasons, and if it is dark enough and the sky clear enough you can see the Coal Sack Nebula in our own galaxy the Milky Way. Something hardly anyone ever gets to see any more, thanks to air and light pollution, but if you ever do it sure sticks with you. 

Trying to live pretending you get this because you looked up some numbers in a book is like pretending you have good sound because your mic and DSP tells you so.

I was pals with Al George back when he was building his observatory in the 1970's. https://www.tas-online.org/about.php All gone now I guess, along with Al, but what a time we had!
They are analytical, not warm and not my cup of tea. They are also way overpriced. So you get some fancy vu meters, big deal, those get old after a while and then you gotta live with that sound. Sugden is way better and cheaper. Yea, no flashy meters, but smooth, warm, and inviting sound. It says, sit down and listen for a long time.