Luxman tonality
I’ve seen many members describing the Luxman 509x and the m duo as warm thus colored. I’ve had these units and have never thought of them as bright or dark(warm). They are superbly neutral to me neither adding or subtracting. I find them to be very musical. A prospective buyer might pass on Luxman thinking that they won’t match up with many speakers. Of course they will. Neutral is neutral. It’s what we should want.
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millercarbon you really nailed this comment well.To a man with a hammer, everything looks like a nail. No amount of measurements will ever give you the ability to look at the night sky and visualize your place in the cosmos. The phase of the moon shows you where the sun is, the planets glide along the ecliptic through their seasons, and if it is dark enough and the sky clear enough you can see the Coal Sack Nebula in our own galaxy the Milky Way. Something hardly anyone ever gets to see any more, thanks to air and light pollution, but if you ever do it sure sticks with you. Trying to live pretending you get this because you looked up some numbers in a book is like pretending you have good sound because your mic and DSP tells you so. I was pals with Al George back when he was building his observatory in the 1970's. https://www.tas-online.org/about.php All gone now I guess, along with Al, but what a time we had! |
It is not me you disagree with, it is literally the definition. That's why I say don't take my word for it, look it up. Your disagreement then is with reality. I know nowadays we each are supposed to be able to have our own reality. Good luck with that. Me, I'll stick with the actual, you know, reality. |
Funny you listened to the expert, when you could have simply looked it up. Go ahead. Don’t take my word for it. I just did a search and came up with this. But seriously, do not take my word for it. Look and see for yourself: Euphonic: adj. Pertaining to, or exhibiting, euphony; agreeable in sound; pleasing to the ear; euphonious Agreeable, pleasing. Euphonic simply means what we like. Your "expert" did exactly what I said, took something good and twisted it around into something bad. Your "expert" is full of it. As they usually are. |
The vast majority of audiophiles, near as I can tell, what they call neutral is sterile. What they call detailed is etched. What they call top end extension is hyped tilted up and more often than not ringing. On and on, the whole vocabulary is corrupted. Wasn't always this way. Time was, records and tubes, before solid state and especially before digital, everyone knew and agreed what was what. Minor disagreements at the edges. Always are. But compared to today? There is no comparison. What happened was we stopped listening and started measuring. Real hard to explain why something sounds better. Real hard to develop the listening skills to even be aware of a lot of what you are capable of hearing, if only you try. Like that with a lot of things. Golf, tennis, racquetball, rock climbing on and on. Skilled activities. You want to learn a skilled activity, you don't just go and do it. You get a coach. You practice, practice, practice. Anyway, people come along and oh look, the sine wave this ss amp puts out is way more sine-wavy than the one from the tubes. Uh, the tube sounds better. Shut up! This one measures better! You love distortion! You're one a them stinking IM/THD lovers! But, it sounds better! Okay yeah but not really, its, uh, euphonic! What's euphonic? A word that means sounds better. What I said! Yeah but euphonic sounds dirty. We turn your love into filth with this one twist of a word. On and on it goes, CD digital measures ruler flat, dynamic range off the charts, S/N lower than low, hey it must be perfect sound forever. Any of this sounding familiar? Fed us the same damn crap with MP3, now with streaming, on and on, a whole new generation of unskilled listeners falling for it time and time again. I never heard a Luxman. But I will bet you dollars to donuts you are right, and this is exactly the reason why. |