Why do people that are Into rap and hip-hop even want a high-end audio system

@tostadosunidos you are so right.  I knew in the beginning that this conversation would go the way it has and I feel that all of this has taken away from the music. Therefore, I'm not going to continue in this path with this thread.  Great observation. Don't talk. Just listen.  

Racism doesn't explain everything in American Society but its always the first place to look.

I'd put power/money at the top.  The whole slave trade flourished as the thing that made the south viable economically.  Without it the region faltered, to say the least.  Slavery was a means to an end, and that end was the prize.  Slavery is long gone here but business still finds ways to ensure the rich keep getting richer and the poor stay down.

I just had one last comment. The assumption that a rap fan couldn't appreciate a high end system is extremely stereotypical and usually comes from the type of folks that I would consider way beneath me. The kind of folks that I don't even bother to engage in conversation with. It's audiophile snooty at its worst. It's what music is not about. The sad part about it all is that we would never hear each other's system or listen in the same room for various reasons I will not discuss on this thread. So to everyone, enjoy your music. People don't matter who you wouldn't care to have around you or your audio system as long as you enjoy what comes out your speakers. That is all that matters.  

Pete Seeger once said "it's very important to learn to talk to people you disagree with."   I think there's something to that.  That's what we  do here, right?

We're all equals, here and elsewhere. Be careful if there are people you consider "way beneath" yourself lest you wind up being the snob.

Not saying it in that way. I try to make it a point to be snobbish. I consider that kind of snobbery way beneath my standards.  I shouldn't go back and forward with the high brows in a nutshell.  Lol. Enjoy your music and this thread.  Happy listening.  

Right back atcha, brother.  BTW, I got to know a lot of classical musicians (students and professors) for many years at a large music school and they were mostly very real and very warm people.  Being a hick from the sticks I sometimes felt intimidated but that was my own doing entirely--no one ever really gave me reason to feel any less than anyone else there.  I'd go back there in a heartbeat if the opportunity arose.

It is not snobbish to deem one thing better than another.
A  Michelin 4 star restaurant is  better than McDonald's .

What might be considered an open mind at 18,
 may well be an empty one at 68 .

Are there even moderators at this place? Are these ridiculous taters threads the type of content they want on the top of the forum every day? I’d like to see taters pinned down Clockwork Orange style with The Geto Boys catalog played on 10 on a loop.

Nope there is no moderation. It is what it is.  Started a whole thread directed at me. Lol. Just because I'm hip hop and refined.  Lol. 

For Calvinj,  A little hip hop, a little refined, and yes it is awsome on a great system!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fq3S5-h2rA8

Rap music on Vandersteen 7's. I am sure Richard Vandersteen would really appreciate that.

I don't need Richard Vinklesteen's appreciation to play any damn thing I want on my system.

I bet Mr. Vandersteen can bust a mean rhyme. 

(Apologies for butchering the lingo, but the visual in my head was so funny. :-).

Look, this the funny part, if Vandersteen or any other manufacturer knew I had the money to buy their best speaker they would be busting a rhyme and would rap till the whole room was breakdancing. This is a business are you kidding me? They should if it makes the sale. Let's be for real!!! 

Give Richard a call tomorrow and ask him how rap and hip hop would sound on his flagship 7 speakers? I would love to hear his answer.

The people at Mbl made a video with the rapper 2 chainz.  YouTube it.  Lol.  Boom.   Lol.  

I just saw it. When 2 Chainz put on his rap music the guy from M.B.L. Had a disgusted look on his face. 2 Chainz wanted to know if it was wireless and he liked the fact that the amp was so heavy no one could steal it. 

Yup.  It's funny.  There you go.  You should be happy now.  You can feel better about how refined you are now.  You know no wires save yourself some money.  Lol.  2 chainz and Mbl. Great video.  Funny.  Y'all will have a ball with that. Taters I know you were bobbing your head when they put that 2 chainz song on. Lol.  But you won't ever admit it.  Boom! 

I almost bought one of his speakers here in Texas at Audio Concepts it was actually an option because it's non fatiguing and a great soundstage. Look he has his speakers.  That's great for him. When I listen for high end I listen to be bop jazz non-vocal. I'm pretty sure he speaker does a great job doing it all. I'm not buying another speaker.  I'm happy with what I have. It's not one that 100 other guys have and it does what I like well the most my jazz. 

I've had revel, sonus faber, Vienna acoustics, b&w. I had a chance to purchase Vandersteen, Magico and Dali epicon if I wanted them. I've had long term demos with veloce and allnic Man my audio listening buddy had high end German Voxtiv. My Texas dealer had soulutions with raidho d-5 in a separate home listening cottage before he passed away.  He had a speaker bucket list before he died and he went through many. My other buddy has yg acoustics with dartzeel  None of this stuff impresses me to a point to where I would call anybody and care if they would let me put rap on their speakers.  I've had access to a lot of gear. Nothing has impressed me like the raidho/soulutions system on the high end. I enjoy my kr audio/gato fm6/ear acute/ resonessence mirus dac combo a lot. The last 7 years I've been on a audio odesssey few ever go on. So the mountain has been climbed for me. If I like it I do.  If I don't I tell folks.  Enjoy yours system. 

So, let me get this right? I'm supposed to call somebody. Give them an insane amount of money for a speaker. Then I get to listen to him disapprove of my music and get permission to listen to it. Then I get to watch my speaker go down in value the minute I leave the store and the rappers are the dumb guys. Really? So, I have to beg a guy for forgiveness after paying an insane amount of money because I occasionally listen to rap. Look Vandersteen makes a great speaker but this is thread is a laughingstock. I'm sorry that some guys only feel adequate because of their speakers and how refined their music is.  Man I feel sorry for y'all.  The stuff the rappers say makes more sense than these threads. Lol.  This is comedy.  Man do you think that anyone cares about somebody's opinion outside of a couple hundred people at best. Why would anyone on an audio Internet thread care about guys music opinions he will never meet and if he did he probably wouldn't care for their company.  I'm pretty sure I can find a good speaker company that is willing to take an insane amount of cash of my hands with zero restrictions.  Lol.  Man keep doing your high school book club secret handshakes and have fun. Good job fellas. Really smart. I guess all the rap has affected my intelligence because I'm clearly wrong here.  Lol.  This is a nerd fest.lol 

Too many old, bored, banal, well-fed, monied white guys with nothing better to do than starting threads about rap/hip hop, etc. Racial over/undertones? Absolutely.

Shame on me for even commenting- but you’ll kindly forgive me, because, in my naivete, I believe that Audiogon deserves better.