Dear Acman3: Yes, those Ortofon were a very nice finding years ago, both the one you name it and the E version.
I have years I don't touch it but I agree with you " nice qualities ". If I remember I prefered by a " hair " the E version that you can try due that as you said: it's easy to find out NOS stylus replacement that fits in the same Ortofon cartridge body.
Regards and enjoy the music, R. |
Dear Acman 3, You 'touched' the obviously very sensitive matter: who can afford what? With 'obviously' I mean the fact that we never discussed the issue. I am very familiar with poverty and also with 'abundance' so I feel entitled to say somethig about this issue without any pretentions. For the context: I myself can't çompete with,say, Thuchan nor Raul with cart's. Many others , I assume, can't compete with me, and so on. Now the remarcable merit of this, Rauls thread and his indefatigable effort is a kind of 'little Nirvana' for everyone , or, more popular, 'for the people'. Actually every single 'cart of the month' is a remaracable cart.To me there are only marginal and not huge differences between the MM carts. No wonder we have more than 8000 contributions while our thread is still going strong. I am not always kind for Raul in particular about philosophical questions, but his contributions to this thread are simple stated 'priceless'. I just listened again to my Goldring 800 and asked myself: why should anybody NEED a 'better' cart? This one is btw the cheapest I own. Whatever the subjective feelings about this issue are I think that nobody can complain that a very good MM cart is not affordable. Thanks to Raul that is.
Regards, |
Dear nandric: ++++ " I just listened again to my Goldring 800 and asked myself: why should anybody NEED a 'better' cart? " ++++
I can't agree more with you that with that statement and I can add: many of us own several cartridges that as you said are " remarkable " and I can say that with more than one of those cartridges we can ask our self: why we need a " better " one?!!!!!
but ( always exist that " but ". ) we are " alive " and " curious " and these human been characteristics make that we can't be sticky with that one " cartridge ". Our hobby other that gives us a high pleasure to our spirit can and gives us different kind of " fun ": like discovery " new " experiences and IMHO there is no reasons to avoid it, life is to short and we have to enjoy fullest. That's why you now own the AT 150ANV, good move.
Regards and enjoy the music, R. |
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Comrade, Your quote: "I just listened again to my Goldring 800 and asked myself: why should anybody NEED a 'better' cart?"
I have also wonder the same thing about it. I also as you know, have a Goldring G800. I refer to it as a G800A because it has Axel's amazing work performed on it. It's to bad that "want" has to rear its ugly head! Sometimes I think I'm just burning money! Regards, Don |
Hi Raul, have you tried the AT-50ANV ? It has air core coils - could be a winner.
Regards, |
Dear Fleib, Acman nearly caused coronary by me just after I bought the AT-50 ANV. Do you think that I would buy this cart without first reading 33 times Raul's comparison between Precept 440 CL AND AT-50 ANV? At my age however I can't trust my memory and some other things so you scared me to death with your question. BTW 'air core coil' means no iron or other inferiour stuff inside MY coils? But does this also mean that I spend so much money for some air?
Regards, |
Dear Comrade Nandric, I was under the impression that you bought the 150ANV. I think that was a good move and a wise investment. It's limited production and now discontinued. Raul already commented on its quality, performance.
The AT50ANV is the limited production MC. MSRP- $1500, also discontinued. It has non-permeable (air core) coils like those mentioned by J Carr. Output is a minuscule 0.12mV (3.54 cm/sec), but impedance is only 11.5 ohms, not 30 or 40 ohms. This could be the best MC in the world, but I don't know that's the case. Raul briefly commented about Atlas, Anna, Universe and Goldfinger, I thought maybe he had a 50ANV waiting in line. Regards, |
Dear comrade Fleib, I somehow missed the MSRP , MC cart. This also means that I spend more money for my Benz LP s as well for the Magic Diamond. A good comrade would warn me earlier (grin). If I remember well J. Carr referred to Ikeda san as the first one who invented the 'air core' coils in his, I assume, FR-7 (?). From Lukatchek, the owner/designer by Benz , I understand that the usual 'iron core' has some disadvantages which prevent the use of strong(er)magnets. That is why he uses ruby plate for the coils and accept 48 Ohm internal impendance as the result. However Allaerts still uses his own made iron core and succeed to produce carts with the best specs known by any MC cart. Raul would say that craftsmanship counts more by carts than available knowledge. Whatever the truth may be my LP S is as good as the Magic Diamond. But with only +/-15 hours of break in time. BTW I am glad that I only need to rank my own carts and not the carts in general.
Kind regards,
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Hi, I am waiting for post 10001. How long should I wait? Come on guys, speed on. |
Hello all,
I just read Raul's asessment of the Acutex M315 cartridge, and it made me realize how grateful I am to have snared an M320 LPM III STR.
I was able to learn more of it's capabilities, when I refined the set-up parameters of the M415 STR. The 415 was out-doing the M320 after this refinement, which, up to this point had been the best horse in the stable.
So it was evident further efforts were necessary to achieve the potential that was still untapped in the M320.
After a session with my set-up tools, which is always an adventure with my failing 66 year-old eyes (one of the main reasons set-up errors occur, other than my own stupidity). After these efforts, I finally achieved what so enthralled Raul in his review of the M315.
I won't attempt to describe it, as Raul has waxed so poetically already on this subject, and I'm not very good at it, anyway. The results are stunning, though.
It is fitting that Raul has been recognized on this page for his invaluable contributions on the subject. There are also others that have personally helped me, DGarettson, Chris from Canada (Montreal, I think), Dgob,and many others, that without their input, I would be so much more ignorant, and enjoy music much less, than I can now.
Thanks and regards to all, Dan |
Dear friends: Normally I never give-up especially when I have on hand a cartridge with a top quality performance that for whatever reason was not performing so well in a short frequency range that's showing on the whole frequency range.
If you remember that was the case with my Pioneer PC-550E ( btw, I stated/posted that I own the MK2 version: this was wrong, I own the " MK1". Btw, the MK2 is different and I don't think is better but different. This MK2 version came with higher output level, higher VTF and higher cartridge weight. ), well even that through my listening tests I really like it an especially on that " perfect " bass management frequency range I was missin " something " in the low/mid high frequencies that bother me because I took in count that " cartridge fault " against the Precept or the AT 150ANV as other top LOMC cartridges.
I did not read with care the cartridge specs were Pioneer states that the stylus angle is 15° instead 20°+ as other cartridges.
I know during a cartridge VTA/SRA set up ( before listen to it. ) more or less which VTA/SRA is nearest to the " perfect " one position and that's the way I made the cartridge set up on that regards and when I can't achieve for what I know must be there on the sound fine tunning the VTA/SRA I decide to try harder and this is what I did.
I have to work and worked carefully because I did not want it to loose the high quality performance level already attained through the other part of the whole frequency range. Finally after several tiny changes on VTA/SRA ( on positive angle. ) I hear what the cartridge was missing with out any single lost but even with better overall definition. Cartridge tonal balance and tonal colorations now put me nearest to the music and not only because neutrality and accuracy playback cartridge characteristics but now the cartridge sound involve you ( all our senses and body. ) as the live music involve us in a very unique manner.
Now, I can say for sure that this Pioneer PC550E belongs as the Precept and others to that NCG niche sharing a place at the top.
Yes, I'm really happy with this precious " gem ". I hope you can find out in original status.
regards and enjoy the music, R. |
Raul, I am not understanding how a cartridge such as the Pioneer PC550E with the old school 15 degree SRA, is considered to be a NCG type? What is it that I am missing in your definition of this NCG term. Thanks in advance. Regards, Don |
Stltrains, What is your opinion on the Signet Tk7e? Although not Raul approved it sounds good with the tk3 shibata stylus from Thakker, and I really like it with the Akai Rs180 at a lower cost. The ultimate upgrade is the At 20ss so lots of options.
I do, personally, like the Signet Tk7lca better though. |
Acman, The No.3 stylus assembly transforms the TK-7Ea into the TK-7SU...... The Shibata stylus as opposed to the TK-7LCa which has the Line Contact. It's a very close call IMO between the two of them.....but ultimately I agree with you. Both of these are certainly amongst the top drawer cartridges I have heard in my system......and as for not being 'Raul approved'.......'tis puzzling? On both my turntables and mounted on a variety of arms......the two of them are almost indistinguishable to the AT-150ANV which Raul rhapsodies over? The fact that the 150ANV sounds so similar is no surprise to me as it shares many of the successful design elements of the these top classical Signets.....although the Signets have better specs than the 150ANV.....and if push comes to shove......both these Signets are just a little more refined with slightly more depth and body to their soundstages? |
Halcro 03-12-13: 'As my good friend Nikola announced...'. Nikola just bought the AT 150 ANV while he already owns the Signet 9CL + 9E. What kind of 'friend' are you? The Dutch have this saying:'Save me my Lord from my friends I will do this myself against my enemy.' BTW why do you need to contradict Raul by each possible occasion?
Regards, |
Halcro: "The No.3 stylus assembly transforms the TK-7Ea into the TK-7SU"
Perhaps you meant to say TK-7E rather than TK-7Ea?
I also do not believe that Raul's approval or 'blessing' is necessary to enjoy what you like.
Agree with you re: Signet cartridges in general....
Jack |
Dear Acman3: I still own the Signets and it's not that I don't like it but against the 20SS or TK10MLMK2 there is not much to be appreciated on the down step models.
Halcro loved those performers because fulfil his needs/priorities. Your priorities as mine have differences in between as with the Halcro ones.
As I like to say: we all likes different kind and distortions level, that's all.
In the other side and due to our ecah one experiences and where we are in the audio learning curve some of us are aware of some kind of distortions that other persons did not or don't bother them, all these makes a difference and put the " color " in our each one opinion.
That's why ( I assume. ) Halcro experiences on the 150ANV are not something not saying great but " new " in any way. That's fine that's what he experienced according what he can be aware on cartridge performance level.
Regards and enjoy the music, R. |
Dear Comrade, You should know that when someone is in love the usual logic is not applicable. By our opposites btw never irrespective of the subject matter. I think that Raul bought to many carts lately which also imply mucho dinaros which on their turn need some justification. Henry already warned me (to late alas) and you try to do the same without any exception.
Comrades greetings, |
Dear Griffithds: That's the same I ask me. I don't know if you own it but I think that we need to experience the Pioneer PC-550E to understand with out knowing why is so great performer, only take care on that VTA/SRA ste up.
These cartridges that I name it in the NCG niche are given or better yet already " advanced " the quality music/sound performance a step further with better definition, more music natural color and agresiveness with lower distortion level. The bass manegement on all those cartridges is something remarkable. All those happen by a wide margin? certainly not but we are talking and experienced a so top quality performance level with the " other " cartridges that small improvements in these NCG ones is something for make a difference in the quality performance ladder.
I posted several times, to be aware of audio item differences we can do it more easy as better resolution our system has. I always try to improve/up date my system everywhere: that's why those crazy price fuses that I changed overall!
Regards and enjoy the music, R. |
Dear Halcro: +++++ " The fact that the 150ANV sounds so similar is no surprise to me as it shares many of the successful design elements of the these top classical Signets... " +++++
With all my respect to you: I read several times your statement to figure/imagine why you posted it and have not a precise answer because could be by ignorance, by " closed " ears, by low system resolution, by a judgement under stress or by all these at the same time and of course your beloved distortions.
I think that no two cartridges could be so differents as the 150ANV against the Signet you name it:
the cartridges have different " name ": Audio technica vs Signet, cartridge body build materials totally different if for no other thing because the ANV titanium used, cantilever construction and build material totally different or: can you " see " the sapphire in the Signets?, can you see in those Signets the latest ML stylus that comes with the 150ANV?, the Signets cartridge weight is around 6.8grs against the 9.5 grs in the 150ANV, all the cartridges electrical parameters are different in between, the Signet stylus angle is 20° against the 23° in the 150ANV, compliance is different, VTF is way different, the stylus holder in the ANV is not the " resonance box " as in the TK7s, output level is way different too and I can go on and on. Similar???????where????
Could you tell me where those cartridges has a " shares many of the successful design elements of the these top classical Signets.. " ++++?
I'm sorry but I can't see it in anyway and not only that we can't find out nothing similar but its performance is different too. That you can see/find out similarities in the cartridges design has no sense to me as has no sense to put those cartridges that I know very well above the ANV.
If all what you posted is the true for you ( I respect that. ) then that only confirm that you like distortions that are far far far away not only from me but from the music it self. I know for sure that your system, ears and knowledge level is not perfect " ( neither mine. ) but I never imagine that could be so away of that " perfection " targets.
I hope to see your ANV on sale in the very near future in the same way you did it with the TK10ML and I can't remember if the same happened with the 20SS .
Anyway, just an opinion but as always the real valued opinion for you is not the one coming from me but coming from you.
Regards and enjoy the music, R. |
Raul, you have been very very valuable in this your thread. I noticed that you mentioned that after the fuse change, the leap forward in the sound of your system was very great. Lately you discovered the neutrality of the JVC tonearm and it is now your benchmark tonearm. As difficult as this request may be, is it possible for you to pick some of your past TOTL cartridges and retest them to see if there will be any change in perception of what you will be hearing today. Just a thought. |
Halcro, I had not considered the AT-150anv against the TK7lca and the TK7su. I actually hope you are wrong in them sounding alike. :). I will listen to the 2 TK7's and both the TK10 and AT 150anv and see if I agree with you.
Raul, I will have to concede that the bass on the TK10 is tighter than the TK7su, but to me with acoustic bass, the resonance (distortion? ) on the TK7su sounds right to me on my system, with my bias. Anyway, It's good to have them all to choose from.
Sorry If I misunderstood you not liking the TK7su, but for me " fumigate" is a strong word. |
Danny I haven't had the pleasure to mount tk7e yet. From my under standing atn 22 is the replacement for 7e. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Mike |
Dear Acman3: I can't say in your system but even if we never heard the TK7 and TK10 only by design you can tell that the TK7 has higher overall distortions.
One advantage of the LOMC against the MM/MIs is that the cantilever/stylus comes fixed ( not removable ) and IMHO this sole factor is a difference ( everything the same ) for the better and the TK10 is almost " there " in that regards.
IMHO whole system bass mangement maybe is more misunderstood that understood against live music at near field listening.
That tighter sound you differentiate between the TK10 and the 7 means almost all. The sound that produce any musical instrument are " resonances " undistorted resonances that are imposible to have/duplicate in a home system.
Many times we heard in our system those resonances that we could think are " non-distorted resonances " but because we like it we like to think in that way.
All of us are aware of what we like it, all of us are aware on how perform our system, all of us think that we know almost all we have to know about system performance but through my experiences in my audio life and experiences in this forum and others I could say that only a few of us are aware of non-obvious distortions. I always say that the differences in between audio systems are the kind and level of each system distortions.
Acman3. in the same manner that years ago no one talk in this forum about: DD TT, tonearm removable headshell designs, tonearm/cartridge geometry alignments tools, active high gain phono stages, MM/MI alternative, etc, etc you can read that almost no one through Agon and other forums talk about does not-obvious distortions and this could means that many of us are unaware of it.
Like in the past, everytime I brought to Agon something " new " ( there is nothing new in what I said or say. ) people laugh till they learned. As you know I'm still learning and certainly I can be wrong with my statements but I always like to share my findings.
We don't have other way to learn than trhough experiences " new " experiemces non-orthodox experiences.
Today I know for sure that the main audio subjects I learned in the past are not-true are wrong and are different.
For months maybe years I know exactly what kind of sound is enjoying Halcro and he can't believe it because I never been at his place but I know very well almost all his audio system items and his posts help me about. That's why he does not detect real differences between the TK7s and the way different 150ANV design but similar performances. I know that he as every one of us has to go up on that audio learning ladder.
That's why our each one appreciations are a little different and nothing wrong with that because help to all of us to discuss about and learn through that discussions. I always learn.
Regards and enjoy the music, R. |
Raul is correct about our different priorities.....but there are also the differences in our systems and the way we hear? Whilst Raul and I agree on many things.......we definitely 'hear' differently when it comes to certain cartridges. I for instance.....disliked both the 20SS and the TK10ML. They displayed (in my system) a brittle over-emphasised high frequency extension (similar to some MCs).....with a recessed midrange and strangely unextended low frequency performance. Annoying.....is a word that describes my relationship with these cartridges.
Boring.....is a word I associate with the Technics EPC100Mk3. Or 'characterless'..... Like some of the Koetsus I've heard. Now some folk might think that attribute to be the hallmark of a perfect cartridge?.......equating it to 'neutral' perhaps? I however prefer to feel the 'emotion' contained in those grooves....and all the cartridges I rank highly....are capable of projecting those emotions.
It's those three cartridges in particular which emphasise the 'differences' in the way Raul and I 'hear'? Because it is precisely those three cartridges which Raul places in his pantheon of 'high achievers' whilst the Signets like the TK-7SU and TK-7LCa....I place in mine.
The differences between us are ultimately what make us so interesting? |
Mike, Actually it is a TKN 2, but it looks like a TKN 22 would work. Both are elliptical, but TKN 2 stylus looks better on paper. I have not heard the 22. You can compare the two directly at ttneedles. The Atn 22 will not work.
I was just wondering what you thought, so let us know when you get a chance. Also wanted to remind you about the different stylus upgrades if you liked the TK7e. |
Danny I would be interested in stylus up grades that are available.
There so many I now have and not listened to. O the time I just need more of it.
Thank you for your input Mike |
Regards, gentlemen. Fleib has offered this bit of information:
From a spec sheet: 15 - 29K, 4.6mV, .4 x .7 bonded - straight thin wall, 1 - 2g
PC-220: 10 - 30K, 4.2mV, .2 x .7 nude - tapered, .75 - 1.75g
PC-440: 5 - 45K, 4.2mV, .75 nude shibata - tapered, .75 - 1.75g
Apparently there was a LC version of the 440 w/beryllium.
My reply: "almost identical to the 13E/Ea @ 1200 Ohm & 4.2mV?
The 13Ea with a transplanted ATN155LC assembly could teach most of my other carts a lesson in soundstage, imaging and transient behavior. To avoid superlatives, it's just on the warm side of neutral, the small time spent in the stylus transfer is well rewarded.
Peace, |
You're right Jack, Thanks for pointing that out. The TK-7SU is based on the TK-7E body.....whilst the TK-7LCa is the TK-7Ea body.
Regards Henry |
'The way we hear different?' Who would expect such kind of assumption from one of the most eloquent as well scientific orientate person in our forum? I myself hear with my ears. If the other hear in some other way with the help of some other organ I would like to know how. I forget the first name of the lady, or better, how this name should be writen, but Sagan is her, uh, other name. She wrote a book called :'Do you like Brahms?' Perhaps this is a better metaphor for the comparison of our different musical 'testes'. One may state that while not one of the greatest Brahms was/is a great composer so why should anyone dislike the guy? Probable, I would think, because some implicite presupposition is involved, say: I myself like Mozart, Bach, etc.,etc. much more. The most of my cart test I do in my second (lesser) system but I hear so to speak 'immediately' if a cart is something special.I.e. one does not need + $100K system for the purpose. The case with those MM carts is the 'priceless' possibility to try many and select few. The rest one can resell and even make some profit. Who would try such an adventure with LOMC's? So all the stories about 'learning curves', 'resolution of the system involved', 'kinds of distortions', etc. make no sense to me. 'Do you like radio?' I mean the music on a simple radio with smal , cheap speakers? Deed anyone upgraded his radio with expensive capacitors and silver/gold alloy wire? Why not? Probable because our 'ears' can also enjoy this kind of music reproduction. I have some friends from 'Concert Gebouw' in Amsterdam whom I try to impress with my best sounding records on my impressive nr. 1 or 'main system '. To my frustration those people are not at all interested in low, midd and high frequentis but listen cereful to the music and judge much more the artist and his interpretation of the composer than anything else. Do they hear differently? Of course they don't. They have other criterions which are, uh, of intellectul/ esthetical kind and those are used to judge what they hear. Or so I think.
Regards,
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****..........we definitely 'hear' differently when it comes to certain cartridges.**** - Halcro
****I have some friends from 'Concert Gebouw' in Amsterdam whom I try to impress with my best sounding records on my impressive nr. 1 or 'main system '. To my frustration those people are not at all interested in low, midd and high frequentis but listen cereful to the music and judge much more the artist and his interpretation of the composer than anything else. Do they hear differently? Of course they don't. They have other criterions which are, uh, of intellectul/ esthetical kind and those are used to judge what they hear. Or so I think.****- Nandric
****I however prefer to feel the 'emotion' contained in those grooves....and all the cartridges I rank highly....are capable of projecting those emotions.**** - Halcro
Two seemingly different takes on "hearing"; but, with no real disagreement at all. Most importantly, an emphasis on what is (IMO, and as I have been saying for a long time) the audiophile's "last frontier": rhythmic nuance.
Rhythmic nuance: emotion: music. The component that gets THAT right is the superior one; IMO. |
Hi friends, on the way to post 10000 I remember my highlights here in the last 5 years. I read nearly the complete thread and for me the Magic Moments here were: of course the Precept pc440, the Axel S. retip theme. A short moment we named him Alex from Hongkong( alias foxtan). The Acutex nos source in Italy and the run on the best pieces. The discussion about cantilever material. The 100k loading theme. The Glanz / Astatic relationship, the B&O mmc2(what a Fantastic Cartridge). but one thing we discuss from begin. Who has the best ears, who is right, what is the best cartridge, can we reach a live performance like quality with our system. This will never end, I am sure. I will follow this thread. I think post 10000 is for the thread starter. |
Dear Nikola, As much as I enjoy reading all your posts (with their inimitable humour)......your latest posting here is a doozy :-) Very well said.....
Regards |
Dear nandric: Enjoying music is a different subject that listening differences on different audio items.
For years I posted several times that we can and we enjoy music through a Sony Walkman and this is true, we can enjoy music always is does not matters the source.
Yes, we listening the " same " but likes not the same. Now, in a home audio system what do you propose to make comparisons between audio items?, IMHO trought tests looking for differences looking for lower or higher distortions in between looking for that music " natural color looking for lower or better rythmum. All these factors through a comparisons means knowledge level and skils to do it and even that all of us have two ears not all of us, because each oune experiences, perceive the same level of distortions, resonances tonal color and the likes. Remember that here we are not talking to only enjoy the music as music we are talking to compare audio items in between.
Like you everyone can enjoy the music through the radio or at any home audio system ( with any top or poor cartridge performer ) but IMHO we are not talking on that subject but on listening comparisons tests between several audio items in different home audio system with persons that have different sound priorities and that's all. Complex, for say the least.
IMHO where you are in that audio learning ladder is critical on that kind of item comparisons that could be that other persons coincide with you or not, depend on all what we are taliking on this subject.
Regards and enjoy the music, R. |
Dear Audpulse: Yes, that is a must for me. Problem with my time is that I have several LOMC cartridges I need to hear for the first time and MM/MIs too and I'm working with the SUTs too.
Btw, I just recieved the NOS stylus replacement for that " holly grail " JVC X-1. Do you think that I have the patience to listen first an Acutex or Technics before the X-1?
I will test some of the " old " gems, as I said it's a must..
Regards and enjoy the music, R. |
Acman, Dave, Griffithds, Tubed, Dgob & Raul, Exactly because of that “Improved” designation and that original stylus (whatever it is) I wanted to fight and win. I may very well have grabbed the very best cart ACUTEX ever did.
If everything goes well, Terminator the mighty linear tracker and ACUTEX´s flagship will soon join their forces. Also, there´s JVCs flagship with the genuine stylus for sale on eBay right now. Best of luck to all Agoners !
://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251247527007?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2648
Oh, I couldn´t resist to try a delrin headshell on the Tomahawk wand. Conclusion: delrin does not make any difference with my reference cart.
And I sure you, I will never sell the “Improved”. |
Dear Fleib: I was thinking the same as you, the AT 50ANV could be a winner but is a little expensive.
In the other side I don't find out first hand opinions on that cartridge, at least to know if that " could be " can convert in " is ". IMHO first hand opinon always are valued.
What I know is that sooner or latter we have to put our hands on it.
regards and enjoy the music, R. |
Anyone know the average time for Axel to check and repair or refresh cartridges? I sent him my P100CMK4 cartridge and stylus and NOS EPS P100ED4 stylus on 11/27/12, meaning he had them over three months. |
Dear Halcro& Frogman, Using metaphors to describe whatever is like pointing trough the fog at something. The addresse who has no idea what is pointed at get then blamed of being blind. There are much more car accidents by fog then otherwise. Should we then state that those involved are blind? How then deed they got their driving licence? 'Hearing' without specification may include the known as well as the parallel universe by way of speaking. What I wanted to say is that our whole brain, education, national or cultural 'inprint',etc., are involved by our musical experience, enjoyment and valuation of the music we hear. It is 'interpreted' experince while we are not the same qua education, origin, intellect, experience and so on. I hear exactly the same music as my visitors from Concert Gebouw but their valuation of what they hear is different from my. They all are musicaly educated, have different (musical) vocabulary to express to each other what they THINK about the musical piece they have just heard while I myself am not able to participate in the discussion because I don't understand their vocabulary. We have this division of labour such that nobody can be expert in everything. Still everyone can enjoy music on his own terms. That is the remarcable and universal wonder of music. But we all do this with our whole brain which interpret the hearing organ. Hearing on its own can't explain musical enjoyment.
Regards,
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Well Harold-Not-the-Barrel,
I guess now we all have to delete the JVC watch item from our eBay site. Or is this some evil ploy of yours to get the rest of us to drop out???? Ha Ha Ha, we're on to you!
Regards, Don |
Harold, according to the internet and I believe everything I read there. The "Improved" Acutex M320 is the early/first release revision of this cartridge. With some reference to an Acutex 1970s M320 Sales Brochure. I am still interested in the specs if you come by them for this cart. One can only ponder how exactly it was improved on or what it was improved from (310 II, 310 IIIE?).
Blues bothers has alleged original Acutex replacement STR stylus for this cart. I don't believe it. |
Dear Raul, For months maybe years I know exactly what kind of sound is enjoying Halcro and he can't believe it because I never been at his place but I know very well almost all his audio system items and his posts help me about. There is no experienced or respected audiophile who has the temerity to write such rubbish.....except you? You have never heard my speakers as they were a pair of only a dozen ever custom built in Australia.....and mine have had extensive revisions including new Scanspeak Mid and Tweeter drivers as well as Duelund capacitors. As such....there are no others like them anywhere in the world. You have no idea what my listening room sounds like. You have no idea what an Axel-modified FR-7f mounted in an FR-66s tonearm sounds like....nor an Axel-modified Dynavector XV1s mounted in a Copperhead tonearm sounds like. Yet you continue to make outrageous claims about 'knowing' the sound of other people's systems. Perhaps you could give professional audio reviewers some tips on 'how to make their lives easier'? But you're in luck Raul....... In a few weeks, Thuchan will be visiting Sydney and will hear my system. Why don't you describe on this Forum exactly what you 'know' my system sounds like in detail (hopefully using specific record tracks to make your points).....and then Thuchan, after his visit.....can proclaim you the prophet you think you are? Here is an opportunity Raul, I hope you will take advantage of? Regards |
Thesis about 'nature' versus 'nurture' regarding our musical preferences: We all got 'the same' hearing capability from the mother nature all the rest is nurture. Those who are sceptical about my thesis should try whatever Chinese opera.
Regards, |
Some support from one developing nation (Serbia) to the other (Australia).
The Almighty:'But Raul I beg you this is really my chair!' |
Dear Nicola, Those who are sceptical about my thesis should try whatever Chinese opera That's true......but not only restricted to Chinese? Most Asian traditional music is 'difficult' for our 'western' ears.......just try listening to a few hours of Balinese gamelan playing.....? Yet the Chinese and Japanese are adopting (and adapting) rapidly to western classical music. Not only in appreciation......but witness all the classically trained musicians (especially violinists) from Asia filling the professional ranks of world orchestras? Regards |
Dear Henry, If your phrase 'adopting' means 'learning' or 'education' then you mean the same what I meant with 'nurture'. In, uh, my former Yugoslavia there are 6 different folk- or traditional music kinds to which one need to add Romanian, Hongarian, Albanian and Bulgarian(minority) kinds. The folk music there is still more popular than any other kind. I was 25 years old when I heard an Wagner opera for the first time. Still learning, as, uh, Raul would say. As you of course (should)know my Dutch 'side' is familiar with the Balinese gamelan. But nothing that I have ever heard can compere with the Chinese opera. In just one hour of Chinese prosecution with the 'help' of their opera's I would confess to be an American spy.
Regards, |
One hour of Wagner would do it for me. Also, 15 minutes of Rap. I am weaker. |
Damned Lew I should know better. I realized what your comment will be but, alas, to late. I should say Mozart instead. May I still correct my (huge) error? |
Dear Halcro: A perfect speaker the best can do is to reproduce the signal with out degradation and there is no perfect speakers/rooms.
Yes, I don't have an specific idea about the sound of those " unique " speakers but I know how all your other links in your systems degrade the signal ( including your beloved Duelund's. ) including your subs. Those speakers can't recover the information losted through the audio chain distortions. Between other things I know very well your electronics, subs, FR-66 and certainly the Signet 7s and the ANV.
Now, that gentleman that will visit you loves almost the same kind of distortions as you so can't be a reference for me.
But my comment was not to brought your answer in that way, tha's the same over years, but to comment that if you listen the same performance quality between the Signet 7 and ANV cartridges then IMHO something is wrong down there and I posted which reasons could be ( between others. ) and that's all. Stay calm.
Regards and enjoy the music, R. |