Hi Nandric,
I think you will be happy with his revamp of the Virtuoso and would be interested in hearing your feedback once he's completed the work. I have still not pursued the Virtuoso but have it on a very small list of potential future cartridges.
As with Lewm's point, I have also not been of the mind to revamp brand new cartridges. However, I played with the NOS 420STR and became certain that it was quite simply excellent in some areas but lacked that level of quality in others.
I simply had to see if I could bring all areas up to the level of its strengths and Axel suggests this has been achieved. If it has, well, it could be the best cartridge I have ever owned/heard. This is the expectation on which my enthusiasm is leaning. Fingers crossed.
As always |
Hi Don, We in Europe have no idea what 'Red Fenambuk' means but well to what rosewood refers to. Something like 'the evening star' versus 'the morning star' I assume. However when my rosewood Virtuoso get the 'new clothes' it will look much more elegant than your Fenambuk. Sorry!
Regards, |
So, does anyone know whether all that distinguishes a 310, 312, 315, and 320 from one another, in either M or LPM body, are the different styli? If so, one may as well send off a used LPM312 as to send off a new LPM320 or the like. |
Lewm, Some relevant info re Acutex which may explain: http://www.lencoheaven.net/forum/index.php?topic=6675.msg116386
Alex L |
Dgob we are on the same page except i started with m312lllstr instead of 420str. And like your experience music enjoyment wise, my 312 mirrors yours with 420. What a super performer this little giant is. Looking forward to hearing back from Aexl on proceeding with my 2nd 312.
I sure wish i would have got on virtuso before the market dried up. Ive been on the lookout for weeks now with no bites. |
Large pdf on the STR
http://www.turntableneedles.com/assets/images/eprod/acutex/acutex_cartridges.pdf
All of the bodies look to be the same but doubt that they are. I would hope at least the ones with the STR are the same.
Brad |
Stltrains,
Good luck with the 312. I am certain Axel will bring huge improvements.
Let me know and look forward to your feedback on the revamped 312. I truly trust Axel and am certain that he'll do the necessary magic on your cartridge. Just struggling to control my increasing excitement.
Concerning the Virtuoso, I am equally positive that they will show up on the used market again. If your timeframe for acquiring one is short and you let us know, maybe we can keep an eye out and let you know when we spot one. I certainly will if you let me know.
As always |
Dear Stltrains: +++++ " stayed in my system is my modern speakers and analog source... " ++++
with some vintage cartridges that benefit on today audio advancements. In the years where were build/designed all those great cartridges a real limitation on playback were the it self/own audio devices limtations that today we almost does not have.
This time IMHO are " the vintage cartridge golden years ", better than ever.
Regards and enjoy the music, R. |
Hi,
On the Coltrane issue, if you get the Miles Davis Quintet recordings (Cookin', Steaming', Relaxin' and Workin') on the Esquire label, you get supreme quality Coltrane. They do cost a lot however: my original pressings costing around £300 each. However, no modern or Japanese pressings give you Coltrane quite as well, IMO. |
Dear friends ( Lewm. ): Same body in cartridges is not IMHO a synonymous of same motor/voicing/tunning.
I posted this statement several times for different vintage cartridges including Signets and of course Acutex. I said that cartridge manufacturers put more " effort " fine tunning their top of the line models that with the step down ones. It is wrong IMHO to think that because the body looks the same the difference is only on the cantilever/stylus manufacturer choice. This could be true between two middle of the cartridge line but not on the top ones-
I have several examples of what I'm saying but the Acutex is a good one:
I own the 320 and 315 ( long nose. ) and even that Acutex said it that in practic terms both cartridges performs the same this IMHO is not true, for my ears the 320 is a superior one even that the 315 is a great cartridge by its own merits. I think I already posted but here again: do you think that changing the 320 stylus replacement to the 315 body makes this cartridhe a 320?, yes? well NO: the 315 with the 320 stylus performs almost the same ( and I said almost because is difficult to discern about. ) to the 315 and the 320 with its own 320 stylus is still the better cartridge.
I made the same comparisons between AT 20SS and 20SLa and IMHO the 20SS is a better performer and the same for the Signets and other cartridges like Grace 9 series and AKGs.
Cartridge manufacturers are not stupid as almost all of you could think:
I agree with Ecir38 ( thank you for the link and to Dyna10x too for his link. ) that posted " I doubt been the same ".
Now, with Acutex I send my 315 second sample to VDH and certainly there was and is an improvement beyond even the 320 ( long nose ) and very near the 320 quality performance level ( flat nose one. )
It is obviously that a re-tipped ( cantilever/stylus. ) vintage cartridge can or could performs not only different but better if for no other thing because on the re-tip the cartridge suspension was or will be " refreshed " and this single fact is vital/cfrucial for what we are hearing: this function as a re-tunning/voicing.
I'm not the only one that think that same body cartridge are not the same ( especially top models. ), Timeltel reported that he heard differences between the 315 and 320 ( both are nude stylus and cantilever looks the same material under 50x magnification. ) and if I remember he prefers the 315 performance: the point here is that these Acutex cartridges " looks the same " but performs with differences that almost any one could hear.
Do you think that the Desmond 420 re-tipped one was already converted in the " best of the best " as he are expecting?. My take here is that the 315 or 320 motor is way better than the 420 but unfortunately Desmond has not those 315/320 for comparisons, anyway I will wait for his experiences about.
Lewm, I have no single doubt that if you take your 320 for re-tip you can wait for a different performance on the better side. I posted that my 315 VDH outperform the stock 320 ( not a wide margin but important one. ).
Anyway, independent the " same body " subject a vintage re-tip almost always can give us quality performance rewards.
Regards and enjoy the music, R. |
Hello Raul and Lewm, The Acutex 312LPM thru 320LPM share the same bodies and the stylus are interchangeable. There is no difference, to my ears, in useing a 312 body and a 320 stylus or a 320 body and a 320 stylus. I have switched back and forth many times with the stylus profile being the difference. Of course others may have better ears ,systems,or imaginations.
I have switched the Acutex 412 and the 420 and they are interchangeable, but I have not listened enough to be confident in the bodies sound being exact, but I suspect they are the same.
As far as the Acutex people not being stupid, we are talking about people who could not keep from using the same model numbers over and over even when the changed product lines and if I remember correctly(correct me if I am wrong) were sued out of business for patent infringement.
I do agree that just changing the stylus to a Shibata does not guaranty the Acutex 320 quality but I bet it's very good and possibly better. The 412/420 rebuild could be much better than it's stock form. We shall see and it sounds like a lot of fun! |
Alex, Thanks for that. I have the package insert and so could have figured out some of that stuff, but the author of that long post knows, shall we say, perhaps TOO much about Acutex.
Raul, Thanks for your insights. Please forgive me if I say that I do not see proof that the bodies of a 315 and a 320 are not the same. I do accept that they sound different, but that does not prove that the stylus assembly is not responsible for the difference. Anyway, I do take seriously your opinion. I have a 320 or 315 body (can't recall which) that fell apart, would be interested to compare it to its opposite, if anyone has a broken one. No doubt in my mind however that the top tier models are different in every way from the lower level ones.
Dgob, You are indeed an aficionado if you would pay THAT much for the Miles Davis/John Coltrane series LPs. I bought one of the re-issue sets, Classic, I think. I also have one or two of the original Prestige pressings that I just "have" since I was a kid. I've got a "thing" for Dexter Gordon, myself. |
Lewm, not surprising that you have a thing for Dexter. Coltrane credited him as one of his main influences. |
I think it has something to do with seeing Dexter Gordon as an actor in the movie "Awakenings", the story of the first use of L-dopa to treat what was essentially Parkinson's Disease in persons who had "frozen". Dexter was so powerful in his supporting role, as well as in the movie "'Round Midnight". One never got that close to Coltrane as a person. Then.... have you ever heard Dexter play a ballad? To die for. I admit I am a sucker for jazz ballads.
I was going to say that a difference in sound that occurs when you take a stylus off one body and install it on another could as well have to do with a tiny difference in "fit" between two hand-made objects as it could have to do with substantive differences in their construction. Therefore, it is "dangerous" to draw conclusions based on listening tests. |
Hi Raul,
"Do you think that the Desmond 420 re-tipped one was already converted in the " best of the best " as he are expecting?. My take here is that the 315 or 320 motor is way better than the 420 but unfortunately Desmond has not those 315/320 for comparisons, anyway I will wait for his experiences about."
I will be using my Technics 100Mk4 and Glanz G5 as my baseline comparators when assessing the merits of the upgraded Acutex 420. Apart from the stylus/cantilever change I am not certain what other changes Axel has made but I will find this out only if the quality of the improvements are as I would wish.
I can say that the challenge he accepted was to address the inner detail, lower mid, lower bass weaknesses and that I gave him complete freedom to make any changes (at my own risk) that he felt could both address these and bring them up to the level of its obvious strengths. I have no reason to doubt Axel and so now await the arrival of his completion of this task and I will, of course, feedback my impressions.
As always |
Lewm,
"Dgob, You are indeed an aficionado if you would pay THAT much for the Miles Davis/John Coltrane series LPs. I bought one of the re-issue sets, Classic, I think. I also have one or two of the original Prestige pressings that I just "have" since I was a kid. I've got a "thing" for Dexter Gordon, myself."
This was all before my company went under obn the tide of national debt and the sums seemed insignificant. Oh how times can change! Anyway, I did bring a warm smile to the faces of the owner and staff at the specialist record store in London, from which I bought them, every time I turned up!!
As with you, I'm assuming, Coltrane remains 'one of' the great Sax men who I appreciate. Miles Davis remains one of the great horn men I appreciate - especially on these Equire pressings and the more recent but phenomenal German pressing of the complete 'Lift to the Scaffold'.
As always |
Lewm,
I'm not certain if I'm altogether confortable with the smiles that my former purchasing habits seemed to have inspired from such retailers. However, the Esquire pressings are special and that at least limits the reflective embarassment a little:
"Needless to say, original RVG signed Prestige issues fetch very high prices on Ebay. However it is possible to find genuine RVGs at reasonable prices in the UK. Until about 1965, the Prestige label was issued in the UK by Esquire Records, a small London-based label. Esquire imported lacquers made and signed by Van Gelder himself. These were then used to make the UK stampers, and the records were pressed in the UK. The quality of these UK pressings in the late 50s and early 60s was extremely high - much higher in fact than those of the US Prestige label, which skimped on pressing quality. If you find Esquires for sale at a reasonable price they are a wonderful bargain, and the same holds for some issues on the French Barclay label: look for the RVG in the run-out near the label. I have 3 of the Miles Davis Quintet LPs on Esquire, and no digital version comes near them."
http://www.hificritic.com/editorial/Foster.aspx
As always |
Lewm,
Apologies for going on a bit but my noted Esquire pressings (and my Esquire pressing of 'Miles Davis and The Modern Jazz Giants') all carry the RVG signature.
Probably just trying to justify my former insanity!
As always |
Dgob, It's OK, appreciated in fact. We are both OT in this case anyway. But where can I get a German copy of "L'Ascenseur"? That music is haunting, and I only have it on CD. A friend who now lives in France says that he has the LP for me, but it may take forever to get it from him, and I don't know the provenance of his. |
Hi all, to me all of those Acutex kinds look the same qua corpus. Anyway those from 312-320 or from 412-420. It is then reasonable to (pre)suppose that only the styli are different. One may speculate about 'tuning', 'voicing' or whatever but one can also measure the inductance,etc.of the 'corpuses' and get objective outcome. Fleib, Dlaloum is this not some kind of chalenge for you? I know what an voltmeter is and even own one but have no idea how to use the thing for this purpose.
Regards, |
It's not that Acutex would be stupid; it's more their estimation of the intelligence of the buying public. The most cost-effective thing they could do would be to build the same body and equip it with different styli to sell at different price points. That kind of philosophy is endemic in audio products. And it's OK, if the performance is proportional to cost, which seems to be the case with Acutex cartridges, LPM420 notwithstanding.
Speaking of this philosophy, has anyone heard a Grado Statement? I got an Acoustic Sounds catalog in the mail and was reading the ads this morning. The Statement can be had in "low output" configuration. Funny how they refer to it as a "fixed coil" cartridge and never once use the term "moving magnet" or more correctly "induced magnet", which is what it is. But I did once love my Grado TLZ and they know how to build cartridges (Raul liked the Tribute), so I am curious about their current TOTL IM cartridges. Could be better even than a Virtuoso, ne c'est pas? |
Dear Acman3: I don't own the 312 so I can't speak on it but I can hear the differences between the 315, 320, 315 VDH, 315 w/320 stylus, 320 w/315 stylus and 320 w/315 VDH stylus and of course differences between all and the flat-nose 320.
No, IMHO it is not my imagination and as I posted at least Timeltel heard differences between 315-320.
I don't doubt in your experienced " ears " but I think that in those comparisons you are not looking for the right " things " to look. Comparisons needs to have targets in what to look with very specific recording tracks.
Anyway, you are the best judge at your home.
I'm not aware of that Acutex history about cause and effect of that patent.
Yes, normally any cartridge rebuild could be better that in stock or at least different.
Regards and enjoy the music, R. |
Dgob: Well for what you posted that 420 will no more an Acutex one other than the name.
Good this is always an alternative with any other cartridges: leave the cartridge fix source that make anything he thinks could improve the overall quality performance level other than only cantilever/stylus changes.
Regards and enjoy the music, R. |
Dear friends: My last night new experience nad the whole Lewm's Coltrane overall subject makes me think that almost all in this tread and other threads almost never speak of music/artist/players when IMHO everything we make/do around our each one audio system has as main target to enjoy music and this means : artist/players and the like.
Last night came a good friend to hear music and to hear a cartridge that he wants to buy. We were around four hours listening different kind of music and at some time in that time he ask me if I have LPs w/Keith Jarrett' music and I said " yes but let me find out " because I don't hear KJ almost never.
Well I found out 3-4 LPs and he choosed: The Köln Concert. We were listening to the great ADC Astrion cartridge and I was not prepared for that KJ composition that when LP side 1 ends I just don't wanted it ends because I was so taken by this Jarret concert part that's dificult to me to say in words that I have not.
I know for sure that like this KJ LP I for sure own several other recordings ( between 7K+. ) from different artists that I have to discover and that I not know I have it: are waiting for as I'm sure you have this same kind of " situation " at your place.
At the end MUSIC and the fellings/emotions developed through is all about! not the Acutex or Grace or Denon.
Regards and enjoy the music, R. |
Dear Nandric: Inductance, resistance and the like means nothing against voicing/fine tunning a cartridge. Same cartridge inductance/resistance/stylus/cantilever can performs way different only fine tunning different, designer's choice.
Regards and enjoy the music, R. |
Wow, be called to report for a jury selection pool, miss this forum for 36 hours and just look at the number of posts I missed!
Lew, Acman, Dgob, et al, while a big fan, I only heard Coltrane live one time. That was at the Minor Key, a small club in Detroit in the early '60s. I had one of the original Prestige LPs with Coltrane and Miles from the late '50s but that somehow disappeared over the years. I never got into his "sheets of sound" period but love his other work.
Lew I'm sure you know the Miles soundtrack album was released on both 6-eye and 2-eye Columbias. That should be much easier to find than the German pressing although I have no idea about a sonic comparison.
Also, Grado has been offering both high and low output versions of all their wood bodied models for several years. I had a Reference Master several years ago (when only the standard output was available) and it was a very good, if not outstanding cartridge. I've wondered about a low output audition since then. |
Hello Raul, If you are correct, that the individual 312 thru 320 bodies are different, how do we know which cartridge we ACTUALLY own? Unless we bought NOS in a sealed box, we are getting these 30 year samples from other people who may have switched styli. Just wondering? Maybe all I have are Acutex 312 bodies with 320/315 styli.
Thanks, Danny |
Raul said," At the end music and the feelings/emotions developed through is all about. Not Acutex or Grace or Dennon."
Most important statement in this long thread!
Danny |
Lewm,
You should be able to get the Fontana pressings for a reasonable/sane price at: http://www.discogs.com/Miles-Davis-Ascenseur-Pour-L%C3%89chafaud/master/64650.
Haunting is a good word for many of its qualities. I even prefer some tracks to Kind of Blue. I know: Sacrilege!!
Good luck
As always |
Hi Nadric,
"We in Europe have no idea what 'Red Fenambuk' means but well to what rosewood refers to."
We in America don't know either. The ClearAudio is a German company. The Virtuoso Wood is hand assembled in Germany. The Red Fenamuk is what the German manufacuturing company is calling the wood. I always thought Germany was part of Europe? My mistake, sorry! |
Dear Raul, If the measurements you mentioned 'mean nothing' you should at least explain what you mean by 'tuning', 'voicing' or whatever. This looks to me as a unscientific way of thinking. Ie one can state what one like with reference to 'tuning','voicing', etc. which are very vaque notions btw. I don't believe that it is impossible to determine by measurements if those 'bodily' properties are the same or not. Otherwise even the producer would have no idea what he has produced. I also do not believe that all those MM carts are tested individualy , not to mention individualy 'tuned' or 'voiced' . From an article in HIFI News about Ortofon one can see the difference in production of MM carts and (expensive) MC carts. Only the latter are produced by (pre)selected worker who may be capable to 'tune' individual carts.
Regards,
|
Hi Raul,
"Dgob: Well for what you posted that 420 will no more an Acutex one other than the name.
Good this is always an alternative with any other cartridges: leave the cartridge fix source that make anything he thinks could improve the overall quality performance level other than only cantilever/stylus changes."
I agree, to some extent. The reasons that I set out on this venture was partly the exemplary staging, dynamic and tracking abilities of the 420. These characteristics have been preserved as the platform for improvements.
Despite it both preserving and celebrating the real strengths of the original, I feel you are partly right to the extent that this 420 is now a unique Acutex model. For me, the only question that really matters here is: how well does this 420STR MkII/AS perform?
I am also anticipating wider improvements following my very positive conversations with Axel, although I am not certain about all that he did to achieve this. You are definitely correct that leaving all technical challenges to someone with the skills of Axel is the best way to go (as long as you can clearly discern and set out what performance related changes you wish to be made).
Might it actually prove to be 'the best of the best'? It will certainly be a rewarding joy to find out.
As always |
Hi Raul,
"Dgob: Well for what you posted that 420 will no more an Acutex one other than the name.
Good this is always an alternative with any other cartridges: leave the cartridge fix source that make anything he thinks could improve the overall quality performance level other than only cantilever/stylus changes."
I agree, to some extent. The reasons that I set out on this venture was partly the exemplary staging, dynamic and tracking abilities of the 420. These characteristics have been preserved as the platform for improvements.
Despite it both preserving and celebrating the real strengths of the original, I feel you are partly right to the extent that this 420 is now a unique Acutex model. For me, the only question that really matters here is: how well does this 420STR MkII/AS perform?
I am also anticipating wider improvements following my very positive conversations with Axel, although I am not certain about all that he did to achieve this. You are definitely correct that leaving all technical challenges to someone with the skills of Axel is the best way to go (as long as you can clearly discern and set out what performance related changes you wish to be made).
Might it actually prove to be 'the best of the best'? It will certainly be a rewarding joy to find out.
As always |
Dear Acman3: Yes that's a possibility.
Regards and enjoy the music, R. |
Dear nandric: Is hard to go on with you if you can't understand what I posted about because if I'm ignorant on that subject seems to me that you are more ignorant.
I don't want to go to explain that fine tunning through suspension/compliance and other factors including cartridge internal body differences to control resonances and the like.
But the classic example of two amps that measure the same and sound different could be enough for you can understand about.
cartridges are extremely sensitive ( as a mechanical/electrical device. ) to tiny tiny changes every where in the design where you can't know nothing but the designer.
Take a look of what cartridge designers, like J. Carr, offer to their customers on re-tipping: you will receive your re-tipped cartridge with all " new " improvements that were not on the stock unit when you bought it and if you measure your re-tipped cartridge even that measures exactly the same you can hear its designer cartridge improvements and you don't know why.
Regards and enjoy the music, R. |
Raul, Re Keith Jarrett. I think his label was ECM, like Chick Corea who is another under-appreciated artist. Anyway, Keith Jarrett was and is quite vocal about his preference for viinyl over CDs. He is a kindred spirit, as well as a fantastic artist. |
Dgob and Pryso, I once read that Miles Davis had a very difficult time composing for that movie. I think at one point they just improvised while watching the action. Anyway, after it was over, Miles declared that he would be doing no more movie soundtracks, and it seems that he kept his promise. Like many great artists, he was his own harshest critic. IMO, he created a masterpiece of movie music. |
Hi Nandric, The Acutex isn't a challenge for me. I don't own one. However, it might be useful for you to identify the difference (if any) in the generators. It would make it easier to sort out which stylus/cantilever voicing works best with which motor. To measure DC resistance you need a digital meter and simply measure between the + and - on each ch. You'll need a capacitance/inductance meter to measure inductance. Most multi meters don't have that capability. Just measuring resistance Might tell you most of what you're looking for. Remember, use a digital meter and get the reading and remove the probes. Don't leave it on there while you contemplate the results. Regards, |
Lew, I totally agree about Dexter Gordon. He had the most seductive, lush sound; it's simply amazing. One of my faves is an old Blue Note, One Flight Up.
You guys in Europe probably have access to Steeplechase LPs. We got many of them on Inner City, which were often poorly pressed. In the mid/late '80s some Steeplechase were imported. There's some wonderful music there including Kenny Drew and Tete Montoilu (piano), two of the all time greats. Enja label also has some killers. Around that time I was the record buyer for a high end stereo shop. I remember setting up an account with Lyrita in Scotland. I ordered the entire catalogue and bought them out on spicific titles. I'm surprised other stores didn't do things like that. It drew customers from hundreds of miles, literally. IMO even the early digital recordings from these jazz labels, were better, more listenable. Regards, |
Fleib, I have all of Dexter's work on Steeplechase. Found them in one place at one time and gobbled them up. His Scandinavian sidemen on those LPs are great, too. I've also got one or two of Shirley Horn on Steeplechase. Back in the day, aficionados knew that European pressings were likely to be superb. ECM is one of my faves too.
"Our Man in Paris"... way cool. |
Lewm,
Miles could certainly be overly self critical but Ascenseur remains (as you rightly note) a masterpiece. More atmasphere than you could shake a stick at and beautiful performances.
It's funny how some great Jazz folk excel in movie sound tracks. I'm thinking of Ella on "Let No Man Write My Epitaph", Sonny Rollins on "Alfie" and Peggy Lee's 'A Taste of Honey' (on "I'm a Woman"): although the latter is not strictly all a film track and is probably better recorded on CD (sacrilege!).
Incidentally, in noting some recording issues with "I'm a Woman" [Capitol, SM 1857], I still feel that (along with the likes of Yusef Lateef's amazing "Jazz 'Round the World") Peggy Lee's original "Black Coffee" [Coral, Mono, CP 94] and the like still produce an acoustic level of replay that is unbelievable and far exceeds replay on alternative formats. But we drift!
As always |
Friends,
Relevant to the context among recent discussions:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=HPqK1JJOFxw
Sheer joy |
Dear Fleib, I would never dream to connect a Voltmeter with any of my carts. Scared to burn the coils. But my trust in you is such that I made my first electronic measurement. Both the 420 and the 412 are: 427/432 and 433/432 Ohm(?). I avoided any 'tuning' or 'voicing' of the carts for the sake of the scientific integrity.
Griffithds, I also mentioned 'the morning star' versus 'the evening star' with the (hidden ) identity suggestion. Ie that the Red Fernabuk as well as the 'rose wood' refer to 'the same' colour ,say, 'reddish'. If this way out is not to your liking I can add my Balkan humour as excuse. This method I learned from the other Marx, the G.Marx:'if you don't like my principles I have other.'
Regards, |
Dear all, Dertonarm is used to say: 'science is a cruel mistress.' By my 'scientific' measurement of Acutex 420 and 412 carts I discovered that two of my 420 boxes contain two 412 carts. Ie the styli are red instead of black. While I am very proud reg. my measurements I feel cheated by those Italians. Anybody else with the same experience?
Regards, |
Dear Nandric, With MM and MI cartridges, the coils are not so at risk as they are with MC cartridges. You can safely measure R without concern. Sorry to learn that you got the wrong pizza from the Italian source. Anchovies ain't so bad if you hold your nose.
Dgob, One more: "Anatomy of a Murder" with music by Duke Ellington. For that matter, the movie "'Round Midnight" with Dexter et al. OK, that's two. Mea culpa. There are many more good jazz sound tracks from movies of the 50s and 60s, when jazz came closest to being "popular music" in the US. |
Hi Nandric,
I like your humor/principles just the way they are. BTW. I'm listening to my Crimson Virtuoso Wood right now.
Regards, Don |
Hi Don, Thanks for your kindness. Is 'Crimson' btw the synonym for the 'reddish wood' kind or do you imply to own three Vituosos? I am still waiting for the Italian response reg. the wrong Pizza delivery. My Virtuoso black with pressure fitted nude line diamond in tapered aluminum cantilever is to blame for my omission.It took me to long to inspect my Acutex 420 collection.
Regards, |
Dear Lewm, Frogman, Dgob, Fleib and friends: It is weird and pity that when people speaks on jazz/blues/soul music and speaks on the best " instrument voices " many great players are almost forgoten in similar way that the MM/MI against the LOMC. Examples ( btw, I'm not an expert on music or music composition or the like y only have my " body " that tell me about quality perfromances. ): if we take tenors like in this late posts names are Coleman, Coltrane and perhaps Rollins but what about other " tenor's gems " like Dexter, Ammons, Griffin or Zoot- If we speaks about trumpeters first name in the list is Miles ( like here 9 but what about H. Edison or Chet Baker or Eldridge or Dorham. For piano Evans almost always comes first but W.Kelly or Gardland or ...or are at the same level.
IMHO all these different players have their each one merits and IMHO no one of them have to envy nothing to the " names " top players.
Why people dimish or don't take in count almost all them but the " famous " ?
What do you think?
regards and enjoy the music, R. |
Hi Nandric,
Yes, Crimson is another name for red. Just my lame attempt at humor? Your pizza delivery got me off of my butt to open my backup 420 to verify if it also has the black stylus. It did, so both of mine are as described by the pizza maker! I doubt if he was even aware of the cartridge mixup at the time of sale. I agree with you. When the Virtuoso is in play, it's hard to rotate some other cartridge onto the tonearm. Regards, Don |
I agree, Raul. There are so many great sax and other horn players who get very little mention these days. Among other lesser stars I admire I would include on tenor sax Joe Henderson, Charlie Roush (who played with Monk for many years and was a native Washingtonian), Benny Golson, Ben Webster, Johnny Hodges, Zoot, Stan Getz, Lester Young, etc. Then on alto we have Art Pepper, Paul Desmond, and many others who are not remembered with the same religiosity as that accorded Charlie Parker, John Coltrane and Sonny Rollins. On trumpet, I love Art Farmer, Chet Baker, Harry "Sweets" Edison, etc. I keep meaning to dig out my Art Farmer LPs and give myself a concert, in fact. Well, on piano, equally famous as Bill Evans we have Oscar Peterson,Monk, Brubeck, Shearing, Garner, the aforementioned Dwike Mitchell who played with Willie Ruff.... Sorry to be so long-winded. |