Would not do either. You have a great phono setup that you are satisfied with, so why change? CD players are a dead end, IMHO. Get a hard drive playback/streamer for digital.
Where's the love for my RP-10 and Apheta 2?
Hi Folks,
A short time ago, I started a thread on amps/preamps where I asked about upgrading, but was concerned with diminishing returns. The insights were very, very helpful and instructive. It has caused me to focus more clearly on room treatments, speaker placement and power supply. Given the help I received last time, I wanted to ask about my Rega RP-10.
I have a new Rega RP-10 with the Apheta 2 cartridge, Pass Labs XP-15 phono stage, Conrad Johnson ET5 preamp, Conrad Johnson LP260MSE Tube monoblocks and EgglestonWorks Viginti speakers. No DAC.
Mike Fremer on Stereophile gives the RP10 an A, I believe. But, I just don't see a lot of love out there for the Rega's. Am I missing something?
I originally purchased a Rega RP6 with the Exact2 cartridge with the same gear as listed above. I knew that was not going to work for me because of the sound quality. One of my dealer buddies told me that I needed to pony up a lot more money on the table, arm, cartridge and record cleaning machine. I did that, and also got a ClearAudio Smart Matrix Pro record cleaning machine.
I listen a lot to classical music, Mozart mostly, on really good recordings. I also listen to classic and contemporary rock music. I generally like the sound of the RP10 and find it quite a bit better than my Oppo 105D with the Modwright upgrades (which also seems to get nominal love on these forums).
I think there is generally better value getting a used table with a new cartridge, but am open to opinion. So, if you had $10,000 to spend on a new (to me) turntable or CD player, which way would you go?
Thanks for whatever insight you can provide.
A short time ago, I started a thread on amps/preamps where I asked about upgrading, but was concerned with diminishing returns. The insights were very, very helpful and instructive. It has caused me to focus more clearly on room treatments, speaker placement and power supply. Given the help I received last time, I wanted to ask about my Rega RP-10.
I have a new Rega RP-10 with the Apheta 2 cartridge, Pass Labs XP-15 phono stage, Conrad Johnson ET5 preamp, Conrad Johnson LP260MSE Tube monoblocks and EgglestonWorks Viginti speakers. No DAC.
Mike Fremer on Stereophile gives the RP10 an A, I believe. But, I just don't see a lot of love out there for the Rega's. Am I missing something?
I originally purchased a Rega RP6 with the Exact2 cartridge with the same gear as listed above. I knew that was not going to work for me because of the sound quality. One of my dealer buddies told me that I needed to pony up a lot more money on the table, arm, cartridge and record cleaning machine. I did that, and also got a ClearAudio Smart Matrix Pro record cleaning machine.
I listen a lot to classical music, Mozart mostly, on really good recordings. I also listen to classic and contemporary rock music. I generally like the sound of the RP10 and find it quite a bit better than my Oppo 105D with the Modwright upgrades (which also seems to get nominal love on these forums).
I think there is generally better value getting a used table with a new cartridge, but am open to opinion. So, if you had $10,000 to spend on a new (to me) turntable or CD player, which way would you go?
Thanks for whatever insight you can provide.
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If I was going to spend that much on a turntable this SME would be my choice! https://store.acousticsounds.com/d/13077/SME-Model_10A_with_Model_10_Arm-Turntables |
Stay off audiogon or any audio forums and listen to beautiful music. Toss the audio mags as well. Play with your room treatment while enjoying your clean records. With that setup, you won't need affirmation from a bunch of audio wackos! If you can't follow suggestions, get rid of everything and start over again. |
I recently upgraded from an older VPI with unipivot to the RP-10/Apheta 2 combo. What's not to like? The first thing that struck me, never having seen the table, was the cheapy-cheap appearance. I mean. it looks like a fancied up $800 table with a $2000 arm - for $6K. Non adjustable Azimuth and VTA. What's to like? The sound, the speed, the timing, the dynamics. The way it powers up to speed in under 3 seconds. The included dust cover and phono cable. The fabulously underrated Apheta 2 - it tracks superb, has timbre in spades and never comes unglued in the tough stuff. I'm now in love with a table that I was ready to return on sight. It's that good. IMHO |
I would not spend time or money on a digital front end if you "listen to CD's when I have less than an hour, and for when I work out". I would focus on my analog front end. Rega makes a good turntable and you have their best. Changing to a idler, direct drive, or high torque belt drive (i.e. Dr. Feickert) will make a real and significant change to your system. I have had Rega, Michelle, SME, Basis, and a lot of other turntables. Changing to a vintage Garrard 301 made a real improvement in my system. I think you should listen to a high torque turntable with a quality tonearm in your system. Then decide whether the change is worthwhile. Best Regards, Jim Perry |
I purchased the RP-10/Apheta 2 in December of 2018. Love the table but the left channel in the cart died due to a faulty solder joint after only 6 months. I'm working with a Rega dealer to try and get it replaced or repaired but the initial Rega response was I could trade it in for a $1300 credit...meaning I need to pay $500 out of pocket for a replacement that should be clearly covered by warranty. Hoping that it doesn't come to this after their evaluation...which is a lengthy process for those of us in not in the U.K. Fingers crossed they do the right thing. |
I recently bought a new P 8 with the Alpheta 2 cartridge and absolutely love it. My other table is a restored TD 124 with an SME m2-9 arm and an AT Art 9 cart. The Rega May be better as far as detail retrieval and being quiet. The Thorens May be a little better when it comes to presence and slam. They are both good just a little different. |