By the way, I am not an engineer, I am a financial planner. So if what I wrote in my previous post is incorrect then I will just instead say that it is my opinion. Also, to those who do not believe cables make a difference stop calling those that can hear the difference foolish. How many fools can go around buying this type of equipment for very long? The answer is none of them. These are by and large very well educated people who have succeeded in life as a result of their intelligence and enjoy their hobby. If you find pleasure in criticizing others that do enjoy their hobby it means that you need to find a different hobby that brings you happiness and that this is not the right hobby for you.
What are the top 3 USB cables being used today in reference systems?
I am looking for a highly rated USB cable that stands head and shoulders above the rest. Is there such a cable?
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To those who do not believe a cable makes a difference, I ask you what properties make any component better than another? Or I ask you to describe the difference you hear between one component and another? For the engineers I ask how far can you see into an electric current to tell if it is good or not? If you say oscilloscope, then I say look at your zeros and ones and notice if there are 90 degree angles. Also Lampizator are great DACs. Maybe not for a system that already has a bunch of tube components, but for a solid state system like mine I like them a lot and I have had more than my fair share of DACs over the years. Rob from Lampizator North America is great to work with and he will even see to it that a DAC you order is customized to your specifications too. Plus, what other DAC company will take one of their own as trade at full retail price? |
I have heard a lot of cables and owned many usb cables the Final Touch Audio Callisto USB cable is very reasonable at retail $850 is a Great cable Never have I ever put a usb cable in that was like a good component upgrade against the wire world platinum 7, and Lightspeed neither had the realism soundstage width and depth and rich realism . Lampizator US is the distributor. Read the reviews online ,and then check it out they may even give you a week to audition it , a They don’t tell you what makes it special but to my knowledge the Only ones Thst sourse a special Copper with a minimum of both Silver,and a Gold content which is very limited then Hammered to the diameter which also changes the grain structure like a Katana sword, nothing else is disclosed . This in my opinion is why it sounds so special from Any other USB cable I have Ever heard .Well worth checking out. |
Was not a “cable guy”. Just didn’t believe that cables could make that much of a difference, especially a usb. It’s just 1’s and zeroes, right ? A local dealer gave me a Kubala-Sosna emotion usb to try out at home. I was truly amazed at how it opened up my streaming front end. Not joining in on what’s better, but in my case there’s a great improvement with my kubala usb. (Yes, I did order one) |
I hate to say this, because I am NOT a cable hater, but so far I haven’t been able to find anything that equals the tried and true Belkin gold series. I got mine brand new for about $12.99 delivered. It not just equaled but actually trounced the few other pricier cables I tried, although I admit I didn’t try anything that cost more than my modest streaming dac. I am considering trying the mit and/or the aq carbon, since all of my analog cabling is from those two companies, but that is more for aesthetic reasons than anything else. The fact is, the Belkin is really all it has been cracked up to be and should be an embarrassment to all those many audiophile cables that aren’t getting usb as right as this mainstream wire manufacturer did. |
I replaced an Audioquest Diamond USB with a Revelation Audio Labs Dual Conduit cable after extensive A/B testing (not blind). Both cables sounded great but they did sound different and I slightly preferred the RAL in my system as it had a richer sound than the AQ. To each his own on cable purchases but as a buyer I would try a few out and keep the one that sounds best in your system. |
I would listen to
astelmaszek if I were you. spend the money on wine (I recommend a
good vintage port) On a standard USB cable you may, given the known incidence of bit errors, hear a tiny, millisecond 'click' about once every 70 or 80 hours of use but there is no way that a cable (some wire) could possibly affect the fidelity of a piece of digitally encoded music travelling across it. Please stop thinking analogue audio connections. You want me to believe that this cable can extract the digital bit-stream from the analogue, then decode the music from the digital stream, then apply it's 'enhancements' to the music, then re-encode it to digital, then convert back to analogue, then pass it to the DAC. These companies rely on 1) The thousands of audio lovers who spent years of thinking analogue, where the cable can make a difference.2) customers believing the 'reviewers' (Those guys who have never given an expensive piece of equipment a bad review, and just happen to have an identifiable link to make your purchase). 3) people will never admit to having been fleeced 4) A cable that just cost a months salary will definitely sound better And all of this after one of the major cable companies was caught red handed cheating in a demo to make their cable sound better, because they knew it wa impossible Some say that if somebody is rich enough and/or gullible enough and/or misinformed then who cares. Well I care. I would still try to stop a billionaire from buying a 'special' USB cable or a 'USB Purifier' or a 'special' HDMI cable. None of them make any difference whatsoever |
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@ghasley Last person I'd get advice from about digital anything is Lukas from Lampizator. On Chord Dave, being listened to via Focal Utopia headphones, about as transparent system as it gets, there is zero difference between digital cables. There cannot be any difference as there is zero connection between USB going in and what's going out. There is a noticable delay between feeding the DAC and when the music starts playing. All that data sits in memory. All tests prove this DAC is immune to jitter and USB introduced noise. Now Lampizator might not be but I would not be surprised at all about it. Pretty case and glowing tubes do not a DAC make. |
@astelmaszek Get 2 identical dacs, get a $5 USB cable and just a mid tier USB cable and feed them both with a Roon feeding both the same music. switch between them on your pre and I promise they will sound different. I’m not saying which will be better I’m just saying they will sound different. Talk to great digital designers, for instance Lukasz of Lampizator fame, and he will tell you he doesn’t know why nor can he explain but he can hear dramatic differences. While the most expensive cables don’t always sound better, the free USB cables rarely will. |
https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-USB-2-0-Cable-Male/dp/B00BCWALHM/ref=asc_df_B00BCWALHM/?tag=hypr... $5.99 cable feeding my Chord Hugo TT2 from Auralic Aries Amazing USB Cable. I spent the remaining $1000 on wine. My system always sounds better about 3 glasses in. Much, much better than any cable. |
I bought a new computer recently. Hp all in one. I-7 processor. Multiple usb ports. I run a Nordost Heimdal usb, a to b -3 meter cable ($650), from my computer's usb output to my marantz sa10 sacd player/dac's usb input, and then through my audio system with great results. I run JR River software on my PC and download hi rez files from HD Tracks. I just got the marantz sa10s1 as well. This setup gives me great sounding audio and great flexibility in terms of organizing new music files and the ability to RIP hi rex cd's. |
Hi I was just curious as to the process by which the cable physically rearranges the bit-stream to make the music sound different. I had assumed that USB cables are pretty dumb wires that just carry a signal. I have been data network designer for some years and even I didn’t realise that some USB cables could ‘read and rearrange’ the data that they are carrying and make the sound, for instance, ‘warmer’. I guess that is why they are so ridiculously expensive. |
Hi Steve, I am using the tX-USBultra with the sMS-200ultra endpoint and the sPS-500 power supply that powers them both. So far I am switching between the two USB cables I have here, either the Curious or the Totaldac USB cable. Both sound good. I also have here Metrum's Ambre endpoint, which allows me to use an I2S connection with my Metrum Pavane L3 DAC. I haven't yet decided which endpoint I like best as each sounds a little different but the SOtM stuff sounds very good. |
Wireworld Platinum is what I recommend, but use it with one of these: https://sotm-usa.com/collections/sotm-ultra/products/copy-of-tx-usbultra-regenerator-1 Steve N. Empirical Audio |
I agree Sujay about your comments regarding the Sablon Reserva Elite USB, great performance and at a reasonable price. It is available in two options, separate power and signal (most dacs would need this version) and signal only for use with compatible dacs like Lampizator, T&A etc. Real artisan product made here in the U.K. PM if you would like to try. |
Hi Glory, Sorry for the delay but we were testing the Reference Inakustik USB against the Curious. The Inex was just OK. We tested a few of their cables and they were super quiet but lacked body, weight and that last ounce of resolution. We are a huge fan of the Inakustik Reference cables and we have decided to distribute the Inakustik line. After direct A/B testing the Inakustik Reference USB was a complete different level than the Curious. To PTS, You will need a properly set up system that is highly resolving to test different cables but trust me there are huge differences from cable to cable. Do the cables need to cost a million dollars, no but some manufactures have serious technology that works and you can hear the difference when you do direct A/B testing. There are not many cable companies with real game changing technology but when you do your research and find that company, it is a game changer. Cheers, |
Among inexpensive ones I would recommend Chord USB SilverPlus. I am using it in my desktop setup. In my main system my favorite is Audience AU24 SE USB Dual End. Really nice cable, tonal balance is very neutral, rich and deep bass, excellent mids and highs. Very close to Audience AU24 is Chord Signature USB cable. |
I don't have a top 3 as I haven't tried many. But I can say with conviction that the Sablon Audio Reserva Elite beat my erstwhile Nordost Blue Heaven in every parameter. Anyone who believes canles make make a difference and does not want to spend an inordinate amount of money ( and I realise this is relative), should try the Sablon reserva elite. They have a time-bound money back program if one doesn't like it. sujay |
I bet folk here who are recommending these ridiculously priced cables wouldn’t be able to tell the difference from a $5 one in a double blind test. It’s a sham IMO, but if it makes people happy to believe... One advantage would be the expensive cables are probably better constructed and will last longer, but that’s not a given either. |
I am using a Transparent Premium USB cable in my office system. It replaced a Transparent High Performance model which it comfortably bettered. Good design, good materials and a well known specialist audio company are good indicators in my experience. I was using a Wireworld USB before I compared it to the Transparent HP, which was better. I have also compared several cheaper brands of USB cables and found them to be no better than the generic ones supplied with PC gear. |
We have tested slightly under 400 different cable models, not
manufactures but models and we did A/B approximately 20 USB cables. The list
included many of the cables being discussed. We tested the Total dac cable,
Curious, Audience, Wireworld, Supra, SR Active SE, and the Inex to mention a
few of them. I agree with Mitch 2 that it will be system dependent. The top 2 USB
cables from our testing were the Curious USB 1st and then Total dac cable 2nd,
in that order. These 2 cables were another level for us. We will be testing the
Inakustik USB cable next month. Currently I use the Curious cable in my reference system. We did find that the shorter the Curious cable was, the better it sounded. |
asahitoro, I own the Venom USB cable and am very happy with the sound quality when used to stream Tidal from my laptop to my Hegel HD-12 DAC. One of the attributes of the Venom USB cable that I found noteworthy was the extra isolation of the power wire from the signal wire. I haven’t compared it with ultra-high $$ USB cables, but suspect it to be a high price-to-performance value, along with the Hegel HD-12 DAC. Dave |
I'm a fan of Black Cat Silverstar digital cables. I have two of their 75 Ohm SPDIF cables and recently purchased the Silverstar USB. Neither are outrageously priced, under $300 but you'll be hard pressed to find any at a discount. I suppose many people like me find them a very high performer and hang onto them. |
Nordost Valhalla, Transparent Cables and a few others who are charging 1000s of dollars for a USB Cable have their marketing strategy working on most audiophiles. Like the previous poster just said if you need to spend this sort of money on a USB Cable something is seriously wrong with your DAC, Setup and your brain. |
IMO, one of the most important parameters of a good USB cable is to have the data lines separated from the 5v power line. The ones I’ve had with separation always sounded better than those that did not. That being said, I’ve had a $1k+ SR Active SE, a Curious, and a Supra, but my fave has been an Audience AU24SE, and a Verastarr Nemesis, with a slight nod going to the Nemesis. |
https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-USB-2-0-Cable-Male/dp/B00NH11KIK/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1497... Above should do the trick Good Listening Peter |
WyWires recently came out with a Diamond series USB cable - their reference line. For years, their Platinum was considered reference level, so I'd imagine the diamond series to be a significant step up. I've heard the Platinum in my system and was very dynamic and transparent. An excellent performer. |
Personally I feel if you have your spend over a $1000on a digital cable something is seriously wrong in the design of your dac. The P.S audio direct stream dac minimizes the added benefit of spending to much on a USB cable. I have a AQ a Diamond USB cable very good yes you can get a little better but at what cost 2-3% for another $1500 ? put a synergistic black fuse in there ,treat all connections with Stabilant -22 and these improvements are much more cost effective . |
