user poll on seperates vs integrated


Hey guys, I wanted to try and crowd-source some (likely very opinionated, unscientific) knowledge.  I've read about the benefits of separates (have only ever used integrated myself), and I'm wondering how those benefits compare to the benefits of higher end parts/assembly, when controlled for cost.

 

To put it more plainly, would you likely get better overall results from a $5000 preamp and $5000 amp, or from a $10,000 integrated, given the likely quality/components used in equipment in those price ranges.

 

If you're experienced both separates, and integrated amps that cost the equivalent of those separate parts added together, can you speak to which you preferred?

 

Thanks for weighing in.

chrisryanhorner

Your body is going to change rendering that tailored suit unwearable whereas that one size fits all will keep on keeping on. That's why you keep on going to the tailors. You're in the diminishing returns zone at around the $10K mark. 

All the best,
Nonoise

Separates! Variety is the spice of Life! Darwin had something to say about this if I recall?

seems like for the most part, people feel that while integrated amps have improved considerably in recent years, separates remain the better overall solution for reasons like being able to upgrade single elements in the future without having to swap out the whole thing, but at the cost of more cabling to purchase and more space needed for all the boxes.

 

i didn't really come in thinking there was a definite answer, i just wanted gauge if there was a general feeling one way or the other and seems that "it depends" is the answer, due to too many variable to rule out.  the truth is i'm sure i'll enjoy whatever i end up doing down the line, as any sort of upgrade will still sound like an upgrade, and i'll never know what i'm missing in the gear i didn't go with.  i appreciate everyone weighing in with their thoughts and experience though.  and obviosly with specifics they've tried and did or did not care for.  there are so many options it would be impossible to try all or even very many of them.

 

when i was shopping for speakers a few years back i had to just read and read and read and narrow it down to 4 or 5 options that i could check out locally, and rule out anything that wasn't available locally, so i'll never know if i might have liked one of those better that didn't have a local dealer, and not knowing is probably for the best, since i love what i ended up with.  i just prefer to come to a place like this to solicit info vs a shop who is trying to sell me on what they carry, or a magazine that just loves everything they write about.

I have both a tube integrated amp and a SS integrated amp. I also have a tube preamp paired with a SS amp. I would say I  like both integrated units.... more than the separates. I think they sound better and offer better performance.

There's always a compromise and I currently use an amplifier and a source that includes preamp, streamer/dac and phono stage (Moon 390).  There are several manufacturers with similar products (Moon 390 with 330 is about $11k)

Keeping the amplification in a separate case from the the other electronics provides flexibility in upgrading.