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Turntable Upgrade

I have a Clearaudio Concept Active TT with the Maestro MM cartridge. I like the sound but I want to try a different cartridge and there's no VTA adjustment that I can do myself. I'm looking for an upgrade anyway, maybe an endgame TT. I'm looking at VPI Classic Signature, Technics SL 1200-G and possibly Pure Fidelity Encore Mk-2. The VPI has a lot more "options" vs the Technics, VTA on the fly looks interesting for when switching between 180 gram and thinner vinyl. Technics is sort of set it and forget it which, if I get the cartridge right and SQ right, could work for me. Pure Fidelity is sort of in between but has very good reviews. I'm looking at either a Soundsmith MIMC or Hana Umami blue cartridge to top it off.  I'm using a BAT hybrid integrated and Legacy Signature SE speakers. I plan on using the BAT phono preamp that is actually really good. 

Any thoughts on these options? Others to consider? I listen to a broad range of genres but little classical, rap or metal. 

gickcf
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I had a VPI Prime with the 3D Unipivot are and HATED it.  I hated it so much that for a year I never used it or played vinyl.  I traded it in on a Technics SL 1200G turntable and never looked back.  I now play more vinyl than CD’s. The VTA on the fly was a PIA to use as if I did it while the record was playing, the crappy VPI unipivot arm would move or tilt towards one side.  Was no fun at all. 

secretguy
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If it's between VIP and Technics, I'd choose VIP 150 times out of 100.

gickcf OP
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Thanks all. Yeah, I've heard about the Unipivot tonearm causing some frustration. I'd do the gimballed that should help with that wobbling. Used TTs are tempting but I think I'll stick with new and have a trial period. I'd want to hear how it sounds with my equipment in my room. I don't imagine I'll use the VTA on the fly other than a couple of times, at setup. So maybe that feature isn't so important. That said, I've been leaning VPI, haven't heard anything compelling to push me elsewhere, Unipivot aside. 

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One of the main things I had found out when searching for an analog rig was that there are many avenues to explore to get great sound. I am not anti direct drive nor am I anti belt drive (as these systems seem to be the main ones) Also I am not light TT is better than heavy. Floating suspension is better than…. ? There are many very good designs and it’s really up to the individual. For instance I just bought a belt drive with Unipivot tonearm and like the on the fly VTA. I have never liked motors built into the plinth nor light turntables…. but that’s me. Technics makes a great TT and so does VPI and so does Rega and Well Tempered and Denon and Pro-ject and Thorens and Nottingham, Audio Technica, Fluance and many others. For some maybe “set and forget” is an easier solution. Let’s not forget that whatever you spend on a TT you must ALSO get the best cartridge and phono preamplifier as well. Those two additional pieces can make or break your TT choice.

vinylcat
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I currently have a VPI Signature 21 (w/FatBoy Gimbal), ADS, and the VPI Peripheral Ring. Really great combo (currently used with a Lyra Kleos SL).

In three years of use, I’ve never used the VTA on the fly. I suppose it’s good to have if one is so inclined.

Just got a new table myself (awaiting arm), but really have enjoyed the VPI quite a bit. If you were to go with a VPI Classic, you may want to look into the Sota Eclipse/VPI setup as a future upgrade. Also would highly recommend the Peripheral ring...pricey but worth it (to me).

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