Hi, i'm looking for a good tube preamp that gives body to my sound. I have a Musical Fidelity A3CR amp and preamp and I think this couple is thin sounding, I want to try a tube preamp to see if I can solve this. I like my classical orchestra music to sound full bodied. I have a subwoofer, so the problem is not deep bass, but maybe mid-bass or upper bass (?). I'd appreaciate any help, I've got almost $2,000 to spend. Thanks/cheers
My speakers are Revel M20, do they really need a meatier amp? the a3cr is 120 w/c. My room is small, about 14'x16'. Or should I try a tube amp? Thank you.
IMHO, try a Musical Fidelity X10 V3 tube buffer (~$275 used). I should allow you to experiment with different tubes which will affect the sound (Telefunken= neutral, tonally accurate, good bass; Mullard= warm, sweet, and smooth, Electro-Harmonix=, a good tube, modern day, highly available and CHEAP, and lots of others). It would be alot cheaper than purchasing a new line stage, and, if you don't like it (Stereophile magazine loved it!), sell it for little no loss. What have you got to lose? Happy Listening,
Are you absolutely sure it is the amp? There are so many factors, the room, positioning of your speakers, the speakers themselves, and, of course, your source.
I used to own a Musical Fidelity A3cr preamp (it's one of the best preamps I've ever had), and I would not describe it as thin sounding. (I've never heard the amp, though.)
What kind of source are you using? Your money might be better spent here.
If you do want to compensate for it with the preamp, I would suggest something from Cary or Conrad Johnson, or perhaps a Rogue 66.
Check out the Eastern Electric Minimax preamp - nice presence, tubey but not too tubey, gobs of detail but no stidency - an excellent choice for your needs! Enjoy! james
Tvad, that's right, at least in my case the MF couple is not meaty robust at all. I took a look at the BAT but is out of my budget.
Sorry, I should have stated that I need a pre with remote. The AES look interesting, what about a VTL 2.5 or Audio Research SP16L? has anyone listened to these? Any other recommendations? Thank you all for the suggestions.
I would consider the VAC Standard LE preamp = has remote and might provide the sound you're missing. Can be had on A'gon right now in your price range.
Rkumar, in comparing the Cary SLP-88 to the MF A3cr preamps, the MF is more neutral, detailed, and better high frequency extension vs the Cary (stock tubes) which has more "fullness" at the expense of a little detail, and slightly less bass.
I've heard similar Revel speakers and thought that they sounded a little thin when I listened to them (I believe there was a switch on the back that adjusted treble boost or something -- I assume you've played with this, if it exists on this model). I think that the best thing you could do for yourself right now is to borrow different components (including sources, speakers, and amps) to better determine what you're looking for.
Another alternative is to look into a tube amp or tube integrated (one of my favorites is the Jolida 302b, but I've also heard good things about the Cayin). One of these might provide more of what you're looking for.
You want a full very three dimenscial tube preamp?Try a Juicy Music Bluberry extream for $1795.00.I heard one at a friends house with khorns and was very impressed.Well worth the money and they are hand built,one at a time.Plus the owner is a square shooter.Do a search under Juicy Music and you will find the site.They have reviews there from sixmoons if I rember right.
Try a used deHavilland UltraVerve, if you can find one. You will easily be able to tailor the sound of the preamp by just rolling one 6SN7 tube. When I had one, it had all the fullness and lushness one could ask for.
I would try a different source if I were in your shoes.I haven't spent any time with your DAC,but the source could very well be the root of the problem. I'll suggest a Electrocompaniet ECD-1. I've been auditioning a modified version of this Dac(thanks to a friend) using a passive volume pot. No tubes in the system at all.The sound is VERY full bodied and slightly warm with no hint of detail lost.It seems to do this without getting strident or bright.The soundstage is stable and wraps around you ...if your speakers image properly. This is a very well balanced dac..never calling attention to just one part of the music.
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