Top 5 Hamburgers


Here is how we roll in Cali:

Father's Office, Los Angeles
Hodad's, San Diego
In-N-Out, Baldwin Park
TK Burger, Costa Mesa
Jalama Beach Grill, Santa Barbara

How do you roll?
bongofury
Darkmoebius

"Tito's Tacos is also right next door.."

Yum.

When I had work in the area I'd either go to Tito's or an Indian cafeteria/store (20 pound bag of Basmati rice and fresh cardamon anyone?) kinda place further away (name escapes me) with tasty lentil and grain dishes, exotic fruit lassies, pistachio sprinkled desserts, and Bollywood posters on the walls. Loved the smell of spices walking in the door of some of those ethnic grocers. Ditto in NYC as well. Tito's chips fried in lard sure tasted good. Food pyramid be damned.
My girlfriend just turned me onto The Hat 2 years ago and I'm kinda hooked when I get my car serviced at the Ford dealership a few yards away.

Another old-style pastrami sandwich/hot dog/burger joint is Johnny's Pastrami in Culver City at Sepulveda & Washington Blvd right off the 405 Fwy. That joints been around since 50+ yrs and still going strong. It's not your good Jewish deli type of pastrami sandwich, but more of a street corner(which it is) joint french dip sandy. Not to mention Tito's Tacos is also right next door(if you don't mind a 30+ deep line 24/7).

There's also another Johnny's Pastrami on Adams at Crenshaw & Adams Blvd just a few yards south of the 10 fwy. This one's been around since '56. Depending on how cosmopolitan you are, the area might be a little too dodgy for the more suburban eater.

We also need to start talking LA barbecue soon, I've got a few good places on my regular rotation list.
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The Hat: Sanchez, QB of the NY Jets, eats at the Hat all the time. His parents live around the corner. I live 5 minutes away. BTW: The original restaurant is in Pasadena, and another one is in Glendora. I actually love the one in Glendora on Old Route 66.
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Macdad,

If you're in Orange County, definitely hit The Hat(Lake Forest) for their Pastrami Sanwiches, fries, etc. Haven't tried their burgers, but their sandwiches are classic, old-style, meat bombs. Their hot dogs/chili dogs are great.

If you make it to downtown LA, Nickel Diner for burgers and deserts, or Wurstkuche for exotic sausage sandwiches and Belgian fries along with imported beers.
Macdad

In LA, you should check out Father's Office in Santa Monica?Brentwood. A small bar on 1018 Montana Ave. The owner, who is Korean, hand grinds the beef.

If you head into the OC, you should check out TK Burger in Costa Mesa and the Crow Bar in Corona Del Mar. For good and original Mexican, I can recommend La Sirena in Laguna Beach. Email me if you make it South. Would love to join you.
fresh fatty ground beef
burnt medium rare on grill
grilled onions
bit o' relish
ketchup
sesame seed bun

yum!
I tend to like the burger grilled instead of pan seared as well. I agree 100% with D-Mob's analysis.

I like a huge variety of condiments, but to be pefectly honest, if I can put some tasty guacamole (or just fresh avacado slices) and pico de gallo on my burger, with that super tasty grilled fat infused patty and a toasted/grilled bun.....

K, it's Goode Co Taqueria and Hamburger for lunch today. Kirby at Westpark in Houston

I have to go to LA (well Orange Co) again next week, so I'm taking BongFury's recomendations. I must admit, in the same vain, that waiting 1 1/2 hrs for hot dogs at pinks a couple of months ago was actually worth it, so I'm stoked about looking for a great LA Burger.
1) I think the number one importance is good ground beef with a nice, high, fat content. Results in much juicier and tender burger.
2) hand-formed, thick, patties are a must. The production line pre-formed patties are too thin, too dense, and improperly seasoned, if at all
3) Thick wedges of tomatoes, onion(or grilled), and a nice bed of crisp lettuce.
4) Toasted bun with some crunch to it

Get those 4 things right and everything is just a cherry on top. Cheese, mayo, ketchup, mustard are all great, but if the four things above are wrong, then it's simply putting lipstick on a pig.

So, why do so few get it right?

For Southern Californians, the beloved icon In & Out Burgers is classic example of a mediocre product. Paper thin patties with no flavor where buns and condiments end up the being the primary thing you taste in each bite. You have to go off-menu to, at least, the custom "3 by 2" three patty burger to begin tasting meat and it doesn't get real until the "4 by" at which point that's a fairly expensive mediocre burger.
Perfect burger: Soft bun, freshly baked. Crisp lettuce. Grilled sweet onions. Fresh meat: nice fat content. Perfectly grilled. Simple seasoning. Gooey real cheese. Freshly made condiments. Pickles with snap.
Tvad you got me salivating, and I am talking about your burger description (not your Audio Note speakers...)

;^D
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It's not something that can be determined with measurements! :^) It's more a sense that you know it's right when you taste it.
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My next 5, outside of Cali, that nobody has shouted out yet:

Burger Bar, Roy UT
Casper and Runyon's Nook, Minneapolis
Johnson's, Siler City, NC
Triple XXX, West Lafayette, Indiana
Txikito, NYC

This is a public service anouncement.
New York:

In no particular order:

Dumont Burger in Brooklyn
Donovans in Brooklyn
Shakeshack in NY
Lure Bar in NY
Royale in NY
Johnnie Macks in Brooklyn
DBGB in NY
Byegolly there is also a black and blue burger at BW3, a blackened hamburger with bleu cheese, alas they are always overdone and not worth the price...

agree about the pineapple on pizza (ugh) but that is not the same thing!
I'm game for guacamole on my patty, but don't if its Roquefort, Saga, Danish, or Gorgonzola - blue cheese on burgers is gross. Double that for pineapple on pizza. Dude!
Wendy's bacon bleu burger is one of the few we have in Kazoo and I confess to eating one. Something about the two flavors is good depite the horrific Wendy 'burger' flavor.

:^D

I forgot we also have Red Robin but a $10 burger should be way better that that!

OK I'm reaching here...
Dusty

Hard to get excited about burgers in NYC when they carry NYC real estate prices. Pizza, yes, burgers, no. The Shake Shack is a joke; most burger joints in the city charge 7 to 10 dollars for what routinely sells for 2 to 4 in the rest of the country. Only the Corner Bistro has a worthy burger and it is a 45 minute wait on a good day. Just my opinion.
Not sure if it's still there but remember years ago when living in Chicago, Boston Blackies had good burgers.
Byegolly. Yeah, that was a good one. He has a new inexpensive sausage joint on Abbott Kinney. Speaking of that side of town, I also liked Cora's Coffee Shop in San Mo. They made a pretty tasty burger a la the tradition of the Apple Pan and Pie and Burger.

Macdad: Christian's Totem in Houston rocks. Nice selection of toppings. BTW: Your Top 5 has been "googled" and now appears in the organic search line, right below yelp, when you type in Top 5 Burgers Houston.
I used to like Rockenwagner's in Venice in their early days. Never forget their thinly sliced, super tender seasoned lamb loin piled high on a pretzel bread bun. No burger/sandwich outside of the NYC 21 Club burger came close to that. IMO of course.
In Virginia, you haven't lived until you've feasted at Carytown Burgers and Fries here in Richmond. Great onion rings, too!

http://www.carytownburgersandfries.com
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Bye:

You are welcome.

Heard Harry passed away, few years ago I think, but it would seem he's still present and accounted for.

Have not been to Venice in years, though we may visit next week (will be going to Venice and Motor, which is close enough).

I have late 80's photos of Larry with my mother, who is now 84 years old.

Her comment after hanging with Larry was it's too bad you had to quit playing the guitar (broke the crap out of my left hand in a car crash).
Harry Perry has become a pest!!! He skates up to mostly young couples and plays loud obnoxious "music" until they pay him to go away, it's sad!!
Rcprince:

"Surprised no one has mentioned the Big Kahuna burger (from Pulp Fiction"

Actually I referenced PF in thread, so perhaps I planted a subliminal thought in your mind. Don't ever underestimate a $5 dollar shake.
"The skating guitar player was Harry Perry"

Thanks Dekay - I had forgotten his name.

Found this on search: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Perry_(musician)

Which reminds me of my favorite thought on humanity:

"We are all connected in one way of another"
Fatburger - LA
In-n-Out - LA area
Tommy's - LA
Island Restaurant, W LA
Five Guys Burgers & Frys - Crestview Hills, KY
Zips - Cincinnati, OH
It's the Pappas Family, they own about 60 restauants, mostly in Texas, they are all insanely good. As an aside, my wife an I both worked for them while in college then right afterward as managers, and I can tell you they are unbelievably well run.

Super clean, best of everything.
MacDad, I'm guessing that Pappas Burger is related to Pappadeaux's? We have a Pappadeaux's (pronounced "Pappa Does") in Phoenix, and it's an insanely good Cajun Creole food restaurant. When I was in Houston three years ago, I found out that there's a slew of places this guy has, like Mexican; BBQ etc, all with "Pappa's" in the name in a creative way.
My question is: Are they ALL great?
Houston Top 5:

1) Goode Company Taqueira and Hamburger

2) Pappas Burger

3) Beck's Prime (it's almost not fair having one at the Memorial Park Golf Course)

4) Xtian Totem

5) Cafe Express
Jody Maroni's stand in Santa Monica/Venice area had pretty good sausages. Back in the day I'd buy one and walk over to watch the guy juggling chainsaws, or talk to the skater playing his electric guitar. The Peoples Republic of Santa Monica indeed. Loved the farmers market there, but not as good as the one in Berkeley. Now if only I could find a killer mussel & frites place outside NYC.
Rnm4 -

Your right - sure it would be possible to eat a whole large order of Five Guys fries. But I don't think very many people actually do it.

Mark
Hudsons in Couer d A'lene, Id Very simple: They only sell them with your choice of pickles and a slice of onion plus two homemade sauses. No fries, no shakes. Best burger I have ever eaten. 22 seats. 2.65 for a single
We lost our art space after 5 years due to a change of owners in the Million Dollar Hotel. Closed in September; was on the NW corner of 5th and Main. U2 played on the rooftop of a store on 7th and Main in 1987. I lived in a loft in 4th and Main. Saw that show--was amazing--you can see me on the street in the video for Where the Streets Have No Name. Bert Green Fine Art and Pharmaka started the airwalk in 2004 when it was real dicey. Now--hipster central.
02-24-10: Bongofury
D Mob,I helped create the Pharmaka Gallery across the street from the Nickel in 2004. Along with Bert Green, we were the pioneers in starting Gallery Row. They have a wonderful art walk once a month.
Very cool. My girlfriend and I have gone to Wurstkuche(across from the old Al's Bar) a few times for sausages, Belgian frites, and beer then done the art walk around there. But, I didn't know it extended over by Nickel Diner. I really like that area - just enough edge to keep the yuppies out, but not the war zone downtown used to be.
Well you guys got me craving a burger so I just had a Five Guys double Cheeseburger....fagetaboutit!
hey MHedges:

You DEFY anyone? I mean, it would be stupid and excessive, I agree, and one would wish one hadn't, but I can't imagine its actually being much of a challenge for a person with will and appetite. I mean, it is a big portion, but gluttony could easily manage it. Have you seen some of the people waddling around out there? Ever witnessed an eating contest?
Any web developers up for putting together the gastro-appreciation site Foodiogon.com?
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