I'm soon to join the club and become a "Tidalist".
Well you guys did it, cost me a small fortune. ;) I went ahead and ordered a pair of the Piano Cera's! Actually I ordered them a while back after reading this thread (and a few others), talking to you guys(and a few others). They are due sometime in the next few weeks, I can't wait. Thank you all for the great thread, good read for sure. |
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Attention all Tidalists. As great as the Piano Cera is (and they are remarkable at their respective price point), I am moving on to the Piano Diacera next month. I really can't imagine owning anything outside Tidal after my experience with the Piano Cera. |
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Link to Piano Diacera+Extender video from Munich Show. Plus few of the new Agoria there. Thanks to Georgemg and Matrixsystem who uploaded them--very nice!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hn_P8S15GWU&feature=endscreen&NR=1 |
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If you page down on the following link you will see a good picture of what appears to be the Piano Diaceras with the new Xtenders. http://www.avguide.com/blog/munich-2012-part-2-electronicsAlways interesting to see how TAS covers the Tidal speakers at shows. In this case the Constellation amps sound excellent but no mention of the speakers through which they heard this sound. |
I have consistently heard that the Silbatone Acoustic room with their electronic and Western Electric horns was far and away the best sounding room. |
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heard the agoria in munich..... so many drivers("specialblack ceramique"), solittle sound. bass, like a disco-(,boom,boom), and the rest like regular tidal speakers- harsh midrange, bright,screaming tweeter.nothing new. |
Hi Guys , did anybody get a chance to listen to the Agoria @Munich 2012. Looks one classy transducer , it does! |
SoundStage! on the Agoria:
http://www.soundstageglobal.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=section&layout=blog&id=17&Itemid=314 |
Focalfan it is funny that 90% of your answers in this forum, I just checked by the way, refer to Tidals and how bad sounding they are. Sales are dropping huh? |
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I have listened to the Sovereign Eternity driving the Sunray but I haven't heard the Impulse yet. I guess that you cannot go wrong with either of them.... |
Geopolitis,
What is your take on Tidal's latest amp, the Impulse, vs Sovereign Eternity? |
Regarding Tidal Agoria, if its sound matches its looks then Sunray will face some serious competition for the title of the best speaker ever built... |
Has anyone heard the latest Tidal Prisma and Impulse amps?
How great are they? |
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I believe that they are excellent value for money amplifiers (even though they are still expensive) and definitely a worthy match with Tidal speakers. It is an fine alternative for the people that cannot afford Tidal electronics.For example I have not read any reviews about the Sovereign preamplifier but it is one of the very few preamplifiers I would consider as an alternative to a Tidal Preos... Of course Preos is a better preamp if your priotity is the absolute neutrality.... But that comes with a higher cost.... |
Geopolitis, you seem very enthusiastic about Sovereign amplifiers. Can you kindly tell me more about them? Sorry to digress from this thread. |
The black drivers are close enough in performance to the white ones such that they can be swapped in without any crossover changes. It is my understanding that there is a small performance gain. The Sunray has always used the black drivers so it it not a question if they are newer, Tidal simply decided to employ them in the rest of their designs. |
Jorn implies, if I am not mistaken, that black drivers are a tad better. I dont know how much though and under what optimum circumstances this is noticable. Owners of speakears with white drivers can upgrade at a cost around 2000$. |
Linkster,
Oh man, damaged!?! Glad you had insurance on those babies. So you originally had the white drivers and the black drivers are newer/better? Do you know the difference between the two drivers? Thanks for the info, glad your speakers are being repaired/upgraded. |
X-tender will also work with the Amea series according to Jorn. Don't know about the driver choice/configuration. |
If I am not mistaken the Tidal Piano x-tender will have side firing woofers!?!
Happy Listening all,
mike |
ABSOLUTELY. Put it this way, my speakers were damaged and I got a nice insurance settlement and guess what I am doing. I am having them repaired at Tidal and updated with the new black graphite drivers. The only speaker I would consider as a replacement would be the Piano Diacera. |
Oops, sorry about that!
Well now that I've got your attention how are you feeling about your Ceras Linkster? Still loving them as much as when new? |
Johngp, Bostonbean has the mighty Piano Diaceras (latest version with variotuning technology and black drivers). I have the first production pair of Piano Ceras. |
Bostonbean,
Thanks for the reply, good to hear you're still loving your Piano Cera's. Tidal seems to be producing some exceptional speakers. This thread has been a great read!
John |
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Enrique. I live at Fortaleza, I posted some Tidal speakers fotos in HTF last year, my room is only 3,5x6 metres, so I prefer the paino diacera, Where are Dr. Lins, Ricardo from Le disq, Ivan... I will trave to Munique show this year with 3 friends. My pre is joule mariane 300LA. we are discusing some points of view in HTF subtopic "clube dos audifilos, go there and send me a email. |
Georgemg: yes, I am in Recife. Where are you?Which pre are you going to be using?
Bostombean: yes, I am planning to upgrade to Vitus monoblocks. I am currently have a Vitus linestage, so I guess a natural upgrade path.
Also, anyone knows the frequency response and sensibility of the Contriva diaceras?
Enrique |
Colo-colo, Congratulations on your Contriva purchase. I do not have the Contriva's but I do not see a problem with the Classe amps. Of course good upstream components and good cabling helps. You also mentioned something about Vitus. A highly thought of audio company. I am guessing the Contriva's would love those amps.
I am sure some Contriva owners will weigh in.
Johngp, Loving my Piano Diacera's. If I had to list one thing that impresses me the most about these speakers it would be overall presentation. These speakers definitely do not lose the forest for the trees. Sure, they do an excellent job in all those areas people obsess about, i.e., imaging, detail, tonality, prat, etc. You can easily focus in on each of these areas for a short time but you are inexorably drawn back to the overall presentation of the music, the same experience as listening to live music. When listening to live music no one focuses in on, for example, detail or imaging because they know it is there automatically. Same with the Piano Diacera's. Just a quick impression on the fly. |
Hi Enrique, I will going receive one tidal piano diacera, do you live in Recife?
I will drive with audiopax maggiore. |
Hello
I am new around here, but have read this thread from the beginning. Very interesting and useful stuff that have, in part, motivated me to order a pair of Contriva Diacera SE. They should be here (in Brazil) by June and I will be driving them with a pair o Classé CAM-600 monoblocks. So here is my question: has anybody tried this match? I am kind of worried given that the Classé are very neutral.
Any insights are welcome
Enrique |
Hello,
I am new around here, but have read this thread from the begining. Very interesting stuff that have, in part, motivated me to order a pair of Contriva Diacera SE that should be here (Brazil) by June.
For the moment, I am going to drive them with a pair of Classé Monoblocks CAM-600. Questions:
1) Has anybody tried this match? The CAM-600 are very neutral and I have not seen people with Contrivas + Classé.
2) Next, when cash allows, I am planning to upgrade to Vitus Audio SM-102 monoblocks. Again, is that a good match?
Thanks
Enrique |
just a 'heads-up'..for those of you in the DC/Maryland area Chalice Audio will be using my 'Grail' amps with Tidal 'Piano Diacera' speakers and dCS products and Argento cabling. Doug Whiyte of 'The Voice That Is'.will also have a room with Tidal 'Contriva Diacera-se' speakers and other great equiptment at the Capital Audio Fest in july...13th-15th.hope some of you can make it there..should be fun.. |
Johngp, just this week I ordered a pair of the BMC Arcadia speakers. I had been using little LSA1 Statement speakers, such as I use in my small room in NM where I avoid Texas summer heat. Frankly, I miss my Contrivas, but the LSAs are very close. I had heard the Arcadias at CES in prototype and with no breakin before the show. I was struck by their dynamics early on and as they broke in, I was very impressed.
But they like the Contrivas are heavy and my listening room in Texas is on the second floor. I have to get movers to get the speakers into my room. With the LSAs, I can carry them into my room myself. I finally decided to go ahead with the Arcadias. This will probably be the last big speakers I buy. |
Tbg,
Sorry to hear you sold your Contriva's. If you don't mind what was your reason for selling, just want to try another brand or upgrading to a higher model?
Bostonbean,
So how are you liking your Piano's now that you've owned them for a while? Any further thoughts on them?
Thank you. |
Looks like Tidal is rolling out many new products this year. I am especially interested in the new Piano X-Tender's. Will be looking forward to hearing more. |
The thread is alive again,
Photon46, congrats on the new purchase, it will be very enjoyable.
Johngp, i agree with bvdiman, i also would like to hear calloway's if i'm near, unfortunately i'm not. |
Johngp, unfortunately for a multitude of reasons, my Tidals are sitting and awaiting shipping to their new owner. Presently, I am using LSA1 Statements, a monitor speaker that costs less than $3000. These are what I use in my small room in our NM mountain house. Although they are an exceptional speaker for the money, they are not the Contriva Diacera SEs, especially on symphonic music. |
Hi Calloway,
I am actually in Texas(Austin), I think Tbg is close to me but not sure. Thank you for the offer, very kind of you, but, VA is just a "little" ways away from me! lol. Have a nice weekend! |
Photon46,
Congrats! Enjoy the journey.. Properly dialed-in, pretty sure you will love them.
Johngp,
If anywhere near, I'd myself jump on Calloway's gracious offer. Certainly worth a trip to listen to his beautiful set-up. |
johngp..where do you live..if texas is not close to you maybe virginia is. i have a pair of the 'contriva diacera-ses and would be more than happy to have you over for a listen...they are amazing.. |
