Thinking out of the box here. It might make some defensive
Another man answered an ad for a music school. He was told that practice, or even holding an instrument, was unnecessary; all that was required was meditating upon the inner nature of the instrument. Surprised by this, the prospective student quoted results from the neurophysiology of learning. He was told that science was a poor way to understand the world, and that the school was for those who had transcended reality. |
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blueranger posted... "My point is why pay for all the fancy wire when in the end the signal has to pass through a connecter and then a speaker terminal. Any perceived advantage of pure exotic copper or intricate twisting of the wire or insulators is a total waste." Check out Enklein Cables especially the David, but hang on to your wallet. |
@kosst_amojan Actually 2 I know of. The company your thinking of is Onda, which is now closed, I own 2 pairs of their Rush interconnects. The other company, which pioneered the idea is PSC out of Australia Super expensive at 55K for a 2 meter pair. A connection free conductor sounds superb, I am surprised more high end manufacturers do not take this approach. |
I just want thank you all for the funniest posts on audio let alone cables I’ve read! I’ve gone to church and transcended reality, a big thank you for my happy moment. Oh I use TimePortal cables as much as possible. I’m so into EMI/RFI control and am very happy with my gold plated terminals and the results. Bring on the music. |
This all just reinforces my decision to completely eliminate all cables and power cords and connectors. It’s called distortion avoidance. No more speakers cables, no more interconnects, no more house AC, no more Ground, no more power cords, no more digital cable, no more connectors. No more teacher’s dirty looks. 👀 And running low power completely avoids noise and distortion from large capacitors, AC ground issues, transformers and fuses since there, uh, aren’t any. You have to die and be reborn. What’s it sound like? Like heaven. Big things have small beginnings. There’s no substitute for signal to noise ratio. |
Fascinating discussion. Ponderings: Some posts suggest that their may be benefits to soldering your speaker wires directly to the crossovers in a speaker and avoiding the influence of the mechanical connection between speaker cable to the binding post. (The same exact logic should concern audiophiles at the amplifier end, off the PC board to the binding post on the amplifier face) What is shocking to me is how many people say that "its a hassle" because they change cables often enough to make it problematic. And yet..... You can't throw a stone in here without hitting posts that describe the huge efforts that need to be expended on speaker placement, room treatment, turntable set up, (plus many more topics) and all are items that "must be done" if you expect to get the most out of your system, and make audible and significant differences. Seems that some kind of work is ok, and needed, but not other types? Or, are some people more closed minded than they want to admit? It is not a silly discussion at all. From a technical aspect, the people that maintain you can hear significant differences between cables really have to admit that the material be it metal, wire, or solder between the crossover and the speaker wire likewise HAS to have an affect on the signal. Can everyone hear it? Probably not. Is everyone willing to experiment and take the time to SEE if they can here it? Probably not. Can you measure it? Probably not. Doesn't mean the difference isn't there for some people. I'm reminded of my favorite story about situations like this: A new Rabbi is confronted by leaders of two factions from his congregation. The first says... Rabbi, confirm for me that the tradition is to sit during the Shmah. (a prayer). The second says, Rabbi, confirm for me that the tradition is to stand during the Shmah. The Rabbi is unsure what to do. He has seen it both ways, and wants to please ALL the congregation. He suggests they visit not the newly retired old Rabbi, but the oldest surviving Rabbi... still hanging on at the nursing home, and still of clear mind. They all go there, and crowd in the room. They ask him: Is it the tradition to stand? "No" They ask him: Is it the tradition to Sit? "No" The young Rabbi out of exasperation starts up.... "But Rabbi, for years we have been arguing, bickering taking sides and..... The old Rabbi brightens up, and exclaims loudly.... "YES" THAT is the tradition.......... |
As has been mentioned, connectors do not share the same characteristics as speaker cables or interconnects. As long as there is a secure and clean connection, wither using quality spades or pins or just direct connect with the cable, IMO and experience that there is no good or ill affects of the connection/connectors, as related to the sonic qualities of of the cables or components. Over the past 40 some years as an audio enthusiast, even though I'm not a snake oil kind of guy, I've come to the conclusion that there is a difference in both speaker cables and interconnects and it's not necessarily a matter of biggest or most expensive, but the ones that are most sonicly invisible in your particular system and imparts the least amount of their own personality or coloration into your system. In this new age, where everything is going wireless, maybe the best cable is no cable.....Jim |
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Just imagine the effort to eliminate vibration from wire…a silly endeavor that some enjoy and/or profit from, and seems obviated by the items like crossovers, connectors, and wire inside your speakers. A vibration nightmare...The trauma occurring in my powered subs has to keep the paranoid anti-vibration maven up at night…and don't even mention "combo" (speaker and amp in one box) guitar amps…horrifying! |
How about discussion from a scientist? https://www.stereophile.com/content/lindsay-geyer-highly-magnetic-cables |
