Thiel Owners

So Jafant should they be fine, no worries about the serial number? Thanks

Hey guys I'm enjoying Florida weather at the moment, I did my Ypsilon home demo on Feb 25 and it went flawlessly.
The distributor came the night before to plug all the gear in my system and we started the auditions the next day in the afternoon.
My Hegel HD12 DAC ended up being a serious bottleneck with the Ypsilon pre and monoblocks.
Luckily the distributor brought a Playback Designs CD player and an Helixir Audio DAC.
With the PD CD player we really started enjoying the huge potential of an Ypsilon system driving Thiel cs 3.7s.
I can tell you guys that I never heard my speakers sing in the past like that day!!
The midrange was the most magical I've heard to date, I felt like crying at some point. 
The bass was very solid with huge articulation, there was a lot of air between instruments.
The soundstage is something I have never experienced in the past on Thiel speakers, holographic and extremely stable.
When we switched for the Helixir DAC it got even better, higher resolution and more relaxed.
If you are looking for an awesome DAC under 10K take a look at the Helixir Audio DAC retail for 7.5k.
To sum it up Ypsilon is phenomenal gear most probably competing with brands like CH Précision for half of the budget.
The Aelius ll monoblocks with only 200w into 8 ohms had a very good grip on my speakers.

I am glad somebody said something about the serial numbers. I was giving them serious thought. If they are good 'se's' and nobody here wants them I will take a stab at them. I have wanted to get some Thiels again some time. Thanks

It would be of interest to learn precisely the number of pairs built.

Nice catch! saffron_boots

I have had a few interactions w/ dweller over the years.  Good to see you again.  Happy Listening!

Ooooh, somebody's selling a pair of SE's on here. Curious that the serial number (191/300) is higher than Thiel Audio told me the run terminated at, a few years ago.  Guess you can't believe everything you're told...

Happy Listening!

Very nice! reubent

I was in Dallas TX a few years ago at Audio Concepts, when, the newest Rega Saturn-R cd player/dac as introduced.  Most important, what cabling are you using?

jafant,

My 2-channel system changes pretty often. At the moment I'm using:

Rega Elicit-R Integrated Amp
Rega Saturn-R CD transport/DAC
Pro-Ject Debut Carbon DC Esprit SB Turntable
Raspberry Pi 3b/HiFiBerry DAC+ Pro/Moode Audio Music server/streamer
Vintage Infinity RS1.5 Speakers

Happy Listening!

Absolutely! reubent

good to see you again. Keep us posted on your H/T project and upon completion, post pics here in Virtual Systems.

What gear is in your 2-channel set-up? What gear is going into your H/T system?

Hey Jafant,

I own 5 Thiel PowerPlane 1.2s that are destine for a future HT system. They are current sitting in a closet in my 2-channel room. Can I still be in your club? .......  :~)

And Happy Friday to you too!

Happy Friday- All.

Good to see you- audiotroy

Thanks! for sharing- bobsjr4

Another nail?  Did anyone see that Thiel is selling their TM3s at half price on Ebay?  $1500 including stands.  

Thieliste, 

CH precision is very fine gear, I would point out to you a recent Absolute Sound Article where Allan Taffel from TAS who owns CH precision A1 Monoblocks, a CH precison preamp as well, was comparing his current $100k setup to a $19k T+A PA 3000 integrated amplifier and found the must less expensive T+A piece sounded almost indentical.

The T+A seperates are considerably better and especially in Europe would represent a fantastic deal.

Also they have a similar speed, and transparency to the CH gear, I think they are also a bit warmer which should mate extremely well with your Thiels and the amp has fantastic bass control so I really think you would be thrilled with the sound!

You should be able to find a dealer in France with this wonderful gear. 

We have the T+A P 3000 preamp, along with the A 3000 power amplifier with the outboard power supply on display in our shop,and it is the best solid state gear I have ever heard and every speaker we connect with it, the sound is remarkable.

Happy Friday! ALL

Happy Friday! ALL.

Good to see you again- stringreen

Happy Listening!

obigny...yes Thiels are full range, I would use subs anyway - even 2. Its not that you’re adding booming bass, its that you’re evening the presentation, and letting your amps coast. You’ll be amazed at how the mids clear up.

Re: Nordost....I think they will be a poor match.  I personally like Wireworld, but each cable sounds different...you should choose your own flavor.

I wish I could join you in all of that fun!

Happy Listening!

I will have the Ypsilon demo with my Thiels on the feb 25.
In april i will try to go audition the Technical Brain integrated at my distributor's place.
Also might want to go audition the SGM 2015 server + Aqua Formula DAC in Monaco.
I will also go to the Munich show this year, lots to audition there.

TY- thieliste

no that CH Precision is crossed off of your list, what is next?

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The only 2 French people owning CH gear both want to sell their Accuphase A200 monos to purchase one CH M1.

Many more than we have in France that's for sure lol.
A certain number au audiophiles in Texas own CH gear or even full systems.
A member of WBF from Dallas has a full CH system on Wilson Alexias.
Onother member from Italy has a huge CH system.

Happy Listening!

Good to see you- thieliste

I wonder how many, if any, full CH Precision system(s) are here in the U.S.A. ?

Hi guys, i went to the CH Precison demo last saturday, very impressive gear and spectacular sound, i liked it very much but it might not be everyone's taste.
The question is would a CH system match with Thiels ?
If one day the dealer makes another demo, i will bring my Thiels.
Unfortunately the dealer told me he cannot afford to have a full CH system on demo in his store all year long.
The only person who has a full system is the distributor.

Happy Listening!

oblgny-

how did your visit to Audio Den work out?

Very nice! oblgny

Under the older system, I know that there were (3) levels of representation
(Reference, Reference XL & OPUS).  The meaning is that under the "reference" level, the dealer/retailer did not carry the "reference xl nor opus".

At "reference xl" no Opus cabling. Finally, the OPUS level offered every cable/cord down to the Link 100.  Enjoy the visit.

Happy Listening!

Good to see you- cadence151

I posted a comment and suggestion on your thread.  Keep me posted and Happy Listening!

Jafant...
I am actually going to stop into the Den tomorrow to see if they've upped their vinyl selection.  I'll inquire as to how deep they go into Transparent. 

Hope they don't have anything that I just gotta have...

Hi,
I am looking for a new preamp for my Thiel 7.2s and would like to invite all the Thiel enthusiasts in this thread to come join the fun at this thread I created in the preamp section.

https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/pass-labs-xp-30-vs-krell-evo-202

Yes, I have been following the Winter storm- William.
It is good to kick back to some Jazz music after shoveling all of that snow!

Happy Listening!

Good to see you- oblgny

I have seen Audio Den pop up in various discussions in other forums.
The shop seems to have an excellent reputation. Do you know the level
of Transparent Audio products?  Does the store carry all cabling up to Reference Level?  OPUS level?

By the way, in case anyone was interested in learning if one can upgrade a Pass X150.5 to a 150.8, as I inquired with Pass directly, the answer is no. 

According to Pass they are completely different. 

I almost cried. 

But what the hell...that's the only thing that would make me give up my 150.5. 

Laughing, Jafant...
 
Audio Den is just around the corner from me - literally, a leisurely 15 minute walk from my house when the sun is shining. They became a Transparent retailer last fall. I'll be moving up the line at an equally leisurely pace this year since everything else is in synch. 

I truly haven't reason that makes sense to change a thing at the moment. I spent this weekend listening to Bill Frisell and some other excellent old school jazz and - wow. We got dumped 18" of snow so the opportunity presented itself after much shoveling and rock salt. 

Funny thing is that I just leased a new vehicle on Friday and I have to admit that one of my requirements was that it could accomodate that elusive pair of CS3.6 that I keep looking for. Or another Thiel model.  I'm obviously not done buying stuff, but until another up-the-line model of Thiel comes along - stars and finances in perfect alignment - my 3.5's remain my reference point. 

I am not sure about Nordost being a sonic match for Thiel speakers- thieliste ?

I have not had a demo of proper on this combo.  I will say that most Nordost has a silver aspect to it, based on my CS 2.4se loudspeakers, Silver is not suggested- too revealing or "bright".  I hope if someone out there is using Nordost cabling w/ his Thiel speakers, he will chime in.

I have only heard the Blue Heaven and Red Dawn models on JM Labs and
Pro Ac speakers w/ Naim and Bryston gear. These were different systems, different rooms and different dealers/retailers over the years.

Keep me posted if you get a chance to listen to this combo.
Happy Listening!

Very nice! thieliste

I look forward in your report on the TB integrated.  Have you heard the DarTzeel ?

Happy Listening!

Jafant do you think Nordost cable are good match for Thiels ?

I will be autioning the TB integrated probably in April.
Bob from WBF just purchased this int, after only 1.5 hours of listening he says it's way above his Dartzeel integrated, that's pretty surprising.
This aftenoon i'm going to the CH demo.
Take care guys.

The EU including Germany, is really building some outstanding gear right now.  Most of it does make here to America.  As always, there are some sweet cabling options, coming from this region of the world as well.

Happy Listening!

TY- thieliste

I will look into those products. Have you heard them?

Happy Listening!

jafant you should have a look at the Technical Brain integrated for your future reference system.
This beast can easily beat more than €30K worth of separates.
I should ne able to audition it in april.
For you guys in the US the distributor is http://www.covenantaudio.com/

Dave thanks for your input so if it's not for Thiel owners then too bad.
One other brand to look at perhaps is German brand Symphonic Line : http://www.symphonic-line.de/