Continuing to polish a turd.
The new Linn LP12 50th Anniversary edition
Linn have just announced their 50th anniversary edition LP12. See here:linn.co.uk/us/
The price is going to be starting at $60K.
Looks nice, but the price, like so much in the industry these days, seems to be what they used to call ' a thumb suck' number.
Thoughts??
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@vinylvalet I guess you were not one of the 250 buyers. Although, I suspect you would not have that opinion if you could have been....;0) |
Dear @roxy54 : What I try to say is that manufacturers as Linn TTs or Lamm electronics ( as other manufacturers too. ) and through the time they pull and hold a niche of fanatic audiophiles for its products and that’s good and maybe, even that I been in touch with those manufactuers products and that I never will buy it, for good reasons for the owners. If you talk with a Linn or Lamm owner and you ask if they are willing to change its items the normal answer is NO, they are fanatics and you can’t even post something " agressive " against it ( of course any one can post about. ). What could justify the Linn tag price for each one of those fanatics that already bougth it? So I said " create fame and go to sleep ". A linn owner will buy almost everything that comes from Linn as in the Lamm niche too. In the Lamm area things are really bad for its fanatics that not even looks or read what it comes inside units on quality level passive/active parts. An example in the pho signature: RIAA eq. has a deviation close to -1db from 100hz and below and at the other extreme things started at 10khz and guess what: those 3 cartridge inputs comes with different RIAA deviation leels , go figure ! !. The unit comes with an internal Jensen SUT ( not the best out there transformers, not even silver wired. ), it comes with 3 inputs for MC/MM cartridges but only has one phono stage and 3 switches in between ( not good enough for the heavy price tag. ), in its site speaks of resistor/caps miltary grade and owners could think that those military grade has a true improve over the normal one and it’s not way because performs exactly with the same quality level: military offers higher temperature use and larger life than non-military passive parts. You have to pay around 80K for the phono + line stage and 7 metal boxes that between other things could " impress " to some gentlemans. Yes, to all those manufacturers market/audiophile owner niche obviously they had to work over time.
But the issue is: true/real justification of the high tag prices, what are reiciving any one else of us in change when we paid those prices?. I know very well these two examples and as I said nothing wrong with that because the audio market is a business market and is OK. My comment was not stay against any of those manufacturers but looking for answers to the main price issue., only this. Every one is free to spend his money in the way he wants.
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The following is a extract from a Marketing Description about the release of the TT. It certainly looks like Linn are now adopting Phenolic Resin Impregnated Densified Wood, as a material incorporated into this design. They certainly are vague about the product in use, but it will most likely be a Delignit (Panzerholz) or Permali Product if sourced in the UK or Europe. There are not many places to go when looking for improvements to a mechanical interface, where dissipation and damping are seen as a valuable commodity. ______________________________________________________________ Linn was already in the process of incorporating a new wood technology for its plinth (the case), which pushes layers of timber together under high pressure to create a facade that is acoustically silent. (Whereas an acoustic guitar or other wooden instrument uses its wood for resonance, a turntable wants to mute those vibrations.) LoveFrom spent hours on calls learning the boundaries of the design, and homed in on dozens of details that it could address in the product. |
@zavato Even if the hinges are retrofittable, do you want to pay the kind of cost that Linn would have in mind for a better solution to hold up your lid??? Since I only use the lid for a way to protect the table from dust when not in use, personally I would see little to no value in improving on it. YMMV. |
@daveyf I can always hope that the hinges are merely ridiculously priced and not delusionally priced |
@zavato Knowing Linn, they will be both ridiculously priced and delusionally priced, LOL. |
@lalitk thanks. Will check that out. |
If it helps put a perspective on the costs associated with this TT. I am successful with having purchase a Board of Phenolic Resin Impregnated Densified Wood that when cut down to Plinth Size Dimensions at 25mm thickness costs approx' £100 per plinth material. I would really like to know what this equates to on the Linn Table, the P'holz seen in the link will still most likely be close to 10 x cheaper than the Linn mark up for their piece of this material or equivalent . |
