Most of Manhattan Transfer vinyls sound horrible, but CDs sound substantially better.
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I of course disagree about Passion Grace &Fire if you are talking about music. Sound is bad, very digital. Friday Night sounds excellent on original Japanese pressing, I never compared it to anything else. I always go after original Japanese wherever possible. Not necessarily best in everything in all cases but so far I have never had a bad copy. And Japanese vinyl from 70s and 80s that I have is so quiet and looks as if it had been made recently. |
harold-not-the-barrel324 posts08-22-2016 2:59pm"Passion, Grace & Fire" was so dry and lame (no fire) back in the day that I sold it right away (in 1984) and never looked back.Yea sell that bad sounding crap and never buy again. I should probably sell my 3xCD copy I’ve mentioned of Augustin Barrios, but for some reason I don’t... |
adding a CD: Agustin Barrios – The Complete Guitar Recordings (1913-42) 3xCD box These are remaster series from 78rpm records placed onto CD. The job was done sufficient enough to appreciate the great work of talented composer and maestro, but there are certainly limitation on clarity of these vintage recordings. All these distortions, imperfections, noise after all decay against an incredible spiritual performance of all pieces played. |
Mystery solved. Abysmal dynamic range for 2013 remaster, both Disc 1 and Disc 2. It doesn't get much worse than 07 07 08, all solidly in the red. Yes Tales From Topographic Oceans (2013 High Vibration SACD layer) (Disc 1) i 2013 07 06 08 lossless Unknown Yes Tales From Topographic Oceans (2013 High Vibration SACD layer) (Disc 2) i 2013 07 07 08 lossless Unknown Cheers |
"Tales of Topographic Oceans" Warner Bros. 2013 remaster ? To me it sounds so lame that it must be digitally redone. The AcousTech "Fragile" is surprisingly good, it must be an analog remaster ? Of course, the original albums are the best. Jon Anderson & Co. achieved harmony & perfection in "Tales", 1973, it´s also the finest concept double album epic in Prog´s History. The highest achievement musically, featuring a classic stunning Roger Dean fold out cover. The original album is perfect in everything. |
Ditto Bruce's Born To Run. I went all out on that one & bought the half speed master. I could tell it was bad even on the Scott table I was using at the time. It doesn't sound like the original master was any better. What a shame. Within the last 10 years I've tried a couple of Flaming Lip albums which were also very disappointing. Another shame. |
Brian Ellis Group- Escondido Sessions. Suffers from home brew DIY production but damn! Agree with op on War on Drugs i have yet to pick up an original but I do have an A&M half speed, "audiophile" series of Jobim's Wave that I may have listed as a letdown, it wasn't exactly cheap either, but that wouldn't be totally fair till I hear the original. |
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I'll tell you what category of LP's are dynamically compressed. Half-speed masters. What a total rip-off they are. When I was young and dumb (I am now old and dumb) I collected these things basically without listening to them, and when my rig improved, I learned just how bad they are. Except for a few A&M half-speeds, I sold almost all of mine and bought the originals of the titles I wanted. I also bought a lot of great new hardware with the proceeds. |
Here's the Dynamic Range Database website link. It's surprising just how extensive the whole effort to overly compress music has been. http://dr.loudness-war.info |
Hi Spencer, I haven't found a great copy of Who's Next(the MCA double LP reissue with the live at the Vic is good except for surface noise), but most from the Decca, Track, and MCA periods sound good to great: Sell Out, Tommy, Leeds, By Numbers, Who Are You(particularly the half-speed master version). Nothing amiss with a US Track Quadrophenia either. |
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I agree with mapman! I recently picked one up at a yard sale, I was blown away with the quality. Inside the booklet revealed the secret, apparently King Biscuit recorded several live events using state of the art mobile studio gear, all I know is the quality jives with the explanation. I will be looking for more King Biscuit recordings! |
I feel your pain. I have a UK "Quadrophenia" (Track) that sounds very good. I sold my Classic "Who's Next" years ago, mainly because of the noisy pressing. I have a UK (Track) pressing of "Meaty Beaty Big & Bouncy" that sounds good on a (couple of tacks). Some are processed for stereo? Given the 45 + years between, I stand firm on my initial post! |