Tekton Double Impacts

@timwelborn  Which specific speaker, for the comparison of the BE vs standard tweeters? I have heard both versions of the Ulfberths. Should you be interested in differences between the standard and BE version of the Ulfberths, PM me.

@wrat 
which mag.
I would like to see measurements. 

wrat, this is the second forum you have posted the exact same negative comment on, suspicious.

just heard em yesterday NOT impressed in the least

Tekton Design / Eric Alexander has started posting YouTube Videos of his speakers, etc. Take a look/listen on the Tekton Design website.

Thanks @lpretiring. 

Has as anyone heard the two products A <> B?

@timwelborn   

Primarily beryllium tweeters

Does anyone here know what are the differences between the SEs and the BEs?

Thanks,
tim. 

It’s listed in the Double Impact page as an upgrade option.

Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see the Double Impact BE listed either.

Not surprising or unexpected once the Double Impact BE was released.

Has anyone noticed that the Double Impact SE is no longer listed on Tekton's web sight?

@mac48025 +1 on your statement:

The SE’s have motivated me to upgrade my system to get the most they have to offer.

I would not be where I am system enjoyment wise without the DIs and SEs over the past two years. Thanks for your help and guidance along the way.

+1 @gaal

The more I fine tune my system...the better appreciation I have for the capabilities of the DIs.

Just giving kudos to whoever suggested setting up the Double Impacts so the alignment of the speaker cones crossed about 1 foot in front of the listening position. So far I have owned the DIs for over a year and have no plans to replace them. The more I fine tune my system...the better appreciation I have for the capabilities of the DIs. I kept my prior speakers for 11 years until I got the DIs so these will probably be my last speaker.

@shadys My room is about the same.  The double impacts and the Encores both worked exceptionally well in my room. 

The Tekton Design Double Impacts will work in your room. Those who have the Impact Monitors / Pendragons are in a much better position to advise with respect to those two speakers and room size...however, I believe all will work fine with your room.

What would be the minimum room size for the DIs vs the Impact monitors or Pendragons?  My room is 14x16 with 9 foot ceilings, glass French doors on one wall opens to a much larger room.  Thanks

I’m still enjoying my SE’s after a year and a half now and while their price decrease affects all of us early buyers that’s the way the cookie crumbles. 

The SE’s have motivated me to upgrade my system to get the most they have to offer. My latest two upgrades have been monumental in doing just that. 

First was the Perfect Path the Gate.....the way this product cleans up the electrical signal brought my system to life and has the SE’s singing better than ever. Kudos to Tim at PPT!

Second was having Aric Audio build me a pair of no holds barred 300B SET monoblocks with two external, tube regulated power supplies. I’ve only had them in my system since yesterday but haven’t stopped smiling since. With C3M driver tubes, Hashimoto output and power transformers, Duelund coupling caps, silver internal wiring, WBT Nextgen binding posts and rca jacks, Yamamoto tube sockets and copper shielding within the chassis along with other goodies I can’t remember Aric went all out in creating amps that will last me a lifetime. When properly designed and implemented the 300B can produce levels of power, dynamics, purity and transparency that drive the SE’s beautifully. Kudos to Aric!

I feel blessed having the likes of Eric, Tim and Aric providing products that bring about so much musical enjoyment at prices I can afford. 

I honestly believe Tekton had the Double Impact SE priced wrong to begin with.. It appeared to be too big of a jump in price from the Double Impact..
I wanted the DI’s but wasn’t very excited to buy them, I just wanted something with a little more Uniqueness to them..
Wham , came the SE’s , but just too pricey for me..!
When I called to make a purchase, Eric offered to sell me a set of SE’s at $4,500.. I was floored, and couldn’t say No..
The day after I ordered my SE’s the price drop went up on the Tekton site..
I felt guilty, and somewhat disappointed for the unfortunate ones who had purchased before me..
Tekton’s price structure is a bit abnormal, and most likely could use a total “start from scratch” revamping..
But we all know Eric is allowing us to have a taste of the Very High End HI-FI , at affordable prices..
I go to Eric for his speaker design skills, not his marketing skills..!
For a one man shop, it can’t be easy to “Everything” yourself, even with Karma’s help..

Oh boy.  The Moab may further shake things up.  I love the idea of all those tweeters.  I love the price.  But my back beckons me to think over the 185#!  

The price change on the DI SE's was really not a surprise given the ever expanding Tekton line.  In particular, the Encores forced the lower price on the SE's.

I hope SE owners don't become too troubled by this.  Let's face it, we all have been spoiled by the great value these speakers offer.  That, for sure, has not changed.

Nice to see a flurry of posts on our long in the tooth thread!

FYI  Tekton Design Moab is listed as up for review by Terry London at 6Moons.

Also I am eager to see the first review of the Ulfberht Be!

I am contemplating the Ulfberhts, can get them for 4.5k after trading in Aria 948 from a local dealer. Hrmmm.

I too am sad that the value of my DI SE has dropped. This will delay or stop me from moving up the Tekton line. Maybe these DI SE’s are just keepers for life because they do sound good but you know, when that upgrade itch starts.

I applaud Eric from Tekton, for all his hard work and making great sound affordable for all of us in this hobby!

@laaudionut  Thank You! Much Appreciated.

I have a different thought about the pricing issue....and I fully admit that it is probably incorrect.

When you think about it, there are at least 50+ successful loudspeaker companies...which basically says that there are lots of different tastes in what sounds good/right.  And you don't have to look very hard to see that every year, new players are entering the market, creating more competition and selling loudspeakers....and current players are responding by offering new models and various improvements and technology.

In many ways, it reminds me of the guys making/selling cars....in order to remain visible, you need to be creating buzz.  And creating buzz usually means either of two things....new product or lower price.

Obviously, a smaller guy like Tekton does not influence a market in the same way as a bigger player like KEF....but on the other hand, the smaller player has to find a way to keep their momentum moving forward when competing with a powerhouse like KEF...or B&W..(fill in name here).

@david_ten, apologies, as I cannot edit the post due to elapsed time. I will state to the forum that my, "middle finger" reference in my earlier post was my own opinion and that of no other's.

Please understand, I'm also in the same position. I'll likely be listing my SEs and moving up the Tekton line or to another speaker brand, the Horning Hybrid Eufrodite Ellipses Mk3 being at the top of my list as an alternative.

I would have loved to have had the price remain steady at 6.5K but in this case, that's the way the apple has rolled. 

The Double Impact BEs have taken the product position that the SEs formerly occupied. 

@laaudionut   Please delete the section of your post that addresses me inaccurately, since it clearly (due to grammar) implies I have 'your "finger" take' on this. Feel free to reword it to reflect your position [Not mine]. I'm fine with your position on this, so it's not about that. Thanks and all the best with your listings!!!

I also am one who purchased the SE, thinking to myself, I want to get “the best version of Erik’s wares” that my limited budget would allow.  

This “sudden,” drastic devaluation on my investment is a real gut punch.  

Oh well...I’m still very happy with the sound quality I am hearing from my SEs, I simply “wish” they were worth more than they are on the outside. 

tim. 

ggeers222, Obviously yours truly is in that boat and also prepping to sell my DI SE's. I was all but certain that I was going to move up in the Tekton line, but this de-valuing decision by Eric has given me pause. 

David, I am not certain that I agree with your take on why he has decided to offer the middle finger to those who have been loyal to his gear, and aided to his success by offering their opinion on forums such as this one. I surmise that the "hype" around the brand has subsided, and he is sitting on too much inventory with too many variations. I am not arguing that the speakers punch far above their weight(respective to price) and sound great comparatively, but how many times have you seen significant price reductions(if at all) in new audio gear, bespoke or big-name alike?!?! 

Wondered how on earth the DI SE could have jumped to $6500/pr over the standard DI’s $3000/pr after just switching to a couple of different driver types and new crossover components (except for the proposed notion that this newer model could be sold non-direct and hence required a higher profit margin) - Well, the price of the SE has recently dropped to a more “realistic” price of $4500, so that’s a good thing, but not exactly thrilling to a friend of mine who paid $6500 for these within the last year - He’s contemplating selling the pair and stands to lose a fair amount in the process - Any other SE owners taken aback by such a sudden plunge in price?

The pricing reflects the forward motion of Eric’s business model and his maturing product line / cost structure. In my opinion, this is normal and ultimately beneficial to those purchasing his speakers. Trickle down and reduced costs for fantastic sound performance...I’ll take that!

He is also smart to price and list his products in the basic finishes first. For example, this reflects a $1K discount on his SE model. 4.5K looks much more attractive (perceptually) than 5.5K, for the lovely automotive paint finishes.

And by the way, has anyone reading spent time on the Tekton website as of late and seen the discounted prices?!?! I question the decision on several levels. 

Good evening fellow Tekton fans! A note to alert anyone in Southern California that I am going to soon be putting my much beloved Tekton Double Impact SE's in high gloss black on the market. As anyone who has had a pair delivered, they do not travel well, so local is probably best for private sale. They are in mint condition! I have moved my gear into a larger space so I am moving up the Tekton line to match the room. Message me if you wish to see and audition.
Cheers, and happy listening!

@teajay  Thanks for the very kind offer teajay.  Sorry I didn't see your post earlier--been a bit busy. I plan on coming in early Saturday for AXPONA and leaving Sunday.  I'll be traveling with my wife so let me talk it over and get back to you.  Thanks!

jsautter,
You definitely need to hear them. If anyone wants to I am actually considering selling mine. I have the Double Impacts in Ferrari Red (with the $300 dollar upgrade Pckg) Ialso have the large Center channel four of the 6 inch drivers (same ones in the Double Impacts) in the same color .They all have Grills. If anyone is coming through this way and is interested in auditioning them LMK.
I have pics in my profile. I am in Knoxville TN. The amps in the pics are not the Granite Audio. See the listing for those pics. I never updated the pics from the MC30s
I am not selling because i do not like them . It is because of Financial reasons. I also have the McIntosh MX151 and the fantastic Granite Audio 864SR Monoblock tube amps. I have many,many extra tubes that will go with the sale of the amps The amps are listed here on Audiogon as well as Usaudiomart. I only have the amps listed for now , because i thought that they would be the easiest to sell .. Not sure though.
I will consider selling any or all.
You must hear these speakers and this setup. I was going to keep for a very long time , but I may not be able to Financially.
If you or anyone has interest in hearing or seeing any of it LMK
send me a PM

I would put more stock in customer testimonials than any reviews. There was a time when customer testimonials meant much more than they do today. Sorry but I am just not buying this Tekton mass hysteria thing, but I will listen to them again at Axpona in a few weeks.

I truly think it is great that there are so many apparent happy customers but I have a hard time believing that you can get blood out of a stone as some claim. When I look at Tektons speakers I see too many design aspects that I find objectionable regardless of price. 

Corelli, I be there Friday only.....maybe all Agon member should write their moniker on their back jacket...

Hey corelli,

You are still invited to stop by me on your way to the show.  Just give me a call if you are interested.

@corelli  Wish I was going. Should be a terrific show. I keep hearing great feedback about the new location. It will be interesting to get your take, as well as that of others, on whether the rooms present better than at the previous location.

I know Allen will be there. Mike Kay / Audio Archon should be in attendance. Teajay?

While this post may now fall on deaf ears (heaven forbid that thought--let's go with blind eyes) I was curious if any of past regulars on this thread are gong to AXPONA this year.

Another update. I acquired the Found-Music 2A3 monos and the Grandinote Genesi preamp with the goal of a 'second' system (same room) but with different amplification chains and two sets of very different speaker types.

I recently brought in the Cube Audio (Poland) Nenuphar single-driver speakers as a possible solution for the Grandinote > Found-Music pairing. After 200 hours of runtime on the speakers, I conducted a lengthy A/B between the SEs and the Nenuphars with exactly the same system chain (refer to my post above). 

The SEs are clearly the better one-speaker solution, and were superior in a few areas....however, for my needs and my preferences I find the Nenuphar to be a much better fit. 

The Nenuphar is a 'focused' solution but what it does well, it does exceptionally well and checks off on what I have been looking for with regards the Grandinote/Found-Music amplification chain. As you can tell from the post above, the SEs also shine with this amplification chain. 

The question now is whether to keep the SEs or to upgrade to a different Full Range speaker to pair with the T+A PA 3100 HV integrated amp.

Based on listening to Ezra's @audioezra  Ulfberth BEs driven by Bricasti M28s...it is one of the speakers at the top of my list. Based on feedback from Allen @aolprodj  and Mike Kay of Audio Archon, Ezra's system kicked up to another level when he replaced his then front end with the Bricasti M12, also feeding the Bricasti M28s.

For those of you with experience with the Ulfberths and / or the Encores, or with something else Eric is most certainly working on, let me know your thoughts. Thanks.

The ’experiment’ with Scott Sheaffer’s Found-Music 2A3 amp driving the Tekton SEs has blown all of my pre-expectations to smithereens!

I want to THANK Charles @charles1dad for being steadfast in his encouragement and support as I considered SET tube amplification options a few months ago. There are others who have also been helping me through my recent audio journeys, and I will thank them personally and more directly, once I pull together a mini-review of sorts.

There has been discussion of low watt SET amps (perhaps) ’not’ being the ’best’ choice --- on TJ’s, now very active and insightful, Perfect SET speaker thread. I beg to differ, respectfully.

I am getting (read, fantastic) full range, high volume, superb sound quality results with a 3.5~4 Watt amp that was custom built for an 8 Ohm speaker, with an optimal impedance pairing range of 6 to 9 Ohms...

AND THIS ON the Tekton SEs which are a 4 way 4 Ohm speaker with 7 array tweeters, 2 mid-range drivers and 2 bass woofers, per speaker.

I’d also like to remind everyone that I am also driving the SEs with the T+A PA 3100 HV integrated amp which is designed as a near zero negative feedback high voltage amplifier.

The T+A PA 3100 HV outputs 500 Watts into 4 Ohms RMS (per channel) AND has a peak output of 700 Watts into 4 Ohms (as provided by T+A’s specs).

Two very, very different amplification chains. Both with supremely satisfying results.

[Note: I am using the fully balanced Grandinote Genesi Preamplifier ahead of the Found-Music 2A3, with custom Cardas XLR adaptors, to allow for SE IC connection]

@radiohead99   Any updates?

It seems that the post from Teajay is back up again. I'll post my questions over there.

@teajay Sorry for write your screen name wrong. Thank you very much for your recommendation. I have a question for you: My guess is that you have heard several models from Tekton, and judging by the design, it seems that the Perfect SET is more on par with the Lore and the Enzo 2.7 designs, than the Impact and Double Impact designs. Am I correct? The Perfect SET more like the best of the lower price models?

@jetter That was my idea too. The speakers would travel several miles and I’ll ask for better protection than the ones people on the US are receiving.

@mikirob I seriously don't understand those people posting on all of Tekton threads. I wish that the moderators ban those users from posting over Tekton discussions. Everybody knows who they are and for the moderators is easier to close an informative review than ban them.

Mac40825,
Thank you. I anticipate that this second set-up will be quite good. I trust teajay and most folks participating on this thread; but I would like a little more input from teajay specifically on the Perfect. The other thread on the PERFECT by teajay has become a horror show. Best, mikirob