Good comeback. And a belated congratulations.
Synergistic Research Cable Risers?
Recenty Synergistic research brought out some cable risers. https://www.synergisticresearch.com/accessories/cable-risers/
The audio press said they made one of the biggest differences when taken out of the system, then re installed back in. Does anyone have first hand experience with these ?
That being said, they seem like quite a bit of money for what you get, however if they work at improving the sound it would be worth it. I do use Synergistic products which have made a definite improvement in sound but am quite skeptical on this product.
The audio press said they made one of the biggest differences when taken out of the system, then re installed back in. Does anyone have first hand experience with these ?
That being said, they seem like quite a bit of money for what you get, however if they work at improving the sound it would be worth it. I do use Synergistic products which have made a definite improvement in sound but am quite skeptical on this product.
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Ted is no comedian. Ted is right up there with Tim and Keith and Eric and Peter. Some I know for damn sure because I got em- or had em. Others I have no doubt because I know the reviews and feedback.https://systems.audiogon.com/systems/8367 Ted is right up there with the very best of them. Their work is all over my system, which would drop your jaw if you heard it. A lot of which is due to Ted. And that's no joke. |
Ted is a sales guy and a good marketer. Fun talking to him at shows. He is very passionate about stuff he knows nothing about. After all these years maybe he even drinks his own koolaid, though I expect that since he will never put his money where his mouth is, perhaps he knows it is a house of cards. I glad you enjoy your system, but those speakers are so far from state of the art by today's standards that any tweak is just going to be duct tape. Seriously, if you are as passionate about music as you claim, they need to go. It will take and adjustment period and some acoustic tweaking but those speakers are a serious limitation in what can be achieved. |
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I'll be the first to say proudly that Ted Denney is a salesman ... and a damned good one at that. He's also a promoter ... and good at that too. He's a manufacturer in a very competitive business ... and he excels at that as well. Starting out living in his small factory because he couldn't afford rent on the business and an apartment at the same time, Ted has brought, what was once a little start-up company, into an international success. All of this while his detractors stand around with their fingers up their noses, wondering what the hell happened. I don't have much of Ted's products in my system, just the Level III power cords, a ten-pack of HFT's to help treat the room, and a full complement of SR's new Orange fuses. I've reviewed all of these products on this site. Synergistic Research products have been very helpful in allowing me to attain a level of sound in my system that can only be described as spectacular. And this with speakers that were built to a price point. Speakers, that can be purchased today on the used market for under $2000.00 per pair. I find it interesting how salespeople are disparaged, not only here on this site, but in society in general. Interesting, because nothing moves in this country without a salesperson on the front end of each transaction. Think about it ... every semi-tractor/trailer you see traveling down the highways of this country, carrying goods to the marketplace, every item in the retail stores, every automobile you see on the road, had a salesperson at the front end of the transaction, even before the pen hit the contract of sale. The plastic, copper, gold, and circuitry in our smartphones, the aluminum, steel, plastic, and leather in our cars, had a salesperson at the front of those transactions too. The lumber, the nails, the roofing material, the drywall, and the siding in our homes all needed to be "sold" before it came to the marketplace and eventually went into building the homes. The concrete, steel and all of the material that went into building our roads and bridges had a salesperson upfront even before construction began. Same for the heavy equipment used to build those roads and bridges. Someone sold that equipment, and someone sold the tires, axels, pistons, and valves that allow that equipment to move. I've often said in my 50-year sales career that any recession could be ended if every salesperson in the country would just take the time to knock on just one more door every day. The indisputable fact is, that without salespeople, there wouldn't be an economy, period. Ted Denney a comedian? Hardly. In the true sense of the American tradition, Ted Denney is a hero. Get over it, Frank |
heaudio123 ... Agreed. Without engineers, as weird as they are, we wouldn't have the technology that we enjoy today. They put the satellites in space that allow us to talk on our cell phones. They design our infrastructure. Even traffic control requires engineers. Without their planning, our streets would be a chaotic mess. So, in their own sense, they are American heroes too. By the way, P.T. Barnum was a promotional genius. I fail, however, to see what he has to do with engineers. Please elaborate. Thanks ... :-) Frank |
I second Frank's post. I've tried some SR products that didn't work for me despite their claims that they need HFTs to work (I use 32 HFTs instead of elaborate/expensive/large quadradic diffusion paneling on front and rear walls). I also use his upscale fuses and duplex outlets. They are cost effective for the sonic improvement. My cable manufacturing friend who derides all tweaks was convinced that the difference in standard versus blue fuses is amazing and chose to retrofit his fuses with circuit breakers (sounding equivlent to blue fuse sonic improvements). I found out recently that due to the design of my cables and extension power boxes that a certain tweak does not work at all despite it working in Frank's and 40 others systems quite nicely. Tweaks are just as system dependent as amps mating to speakers, amps to pre-amps, cartridges to tonearms, etc. |
Just found this thread and I got curious... Below are things I did and experiences I had. I apologize in advance if my experiences were trivial... First thing... Lifted all cables off the ground with kids bike helmets, egg crates, small boxes. Most cables were touching each other. Every cable were at least 2 inches off the floor. What I heard... Loss little smoothness, warmth, but gained a little focus, clarity, transparency. No more added air or resolution, just tiny changes in the presentation. Details were easier to hear. Took me a few minutes to realize the trade off was good. Second thing I did... Put some small boxes and very light weight golf balls between cables. Every cable was separated by at least an inch. Even my interconnects were separated. My USB wasn’t touching anything either. What I heard... More instrument separation, more focus, easier to spot instruments within the orchestra. Every instrument sounded more convincing. Realism was at a different level. Clarity was amazing. There was much much more depth. Sound stage set back a little but felt much more real. Music was more dynamic. Sometime you get speed that made music sound fake. This improvement made music sound real. Over all, just more realism. You may not feel the difference right the way, but after a while, you will realize realism. I sat through recordings that I found to sound annoying before. My conclusion... I am unable to say anything about Ted’s cable risers. Five and a half minutes worth of work made enough differences for me. Before buying any cable risers, try getting your cable off the ground and separating all of them. Disclaimer... 1. I have Oranges fuses in my integrated and DAC. They were amazing, much better than the Blues. Ted did something right. 2. I don’t like SR because I had pricing and delivery hiccups with their dealers. SR also has not acknowledged my complaint which was sent before the breakout. 3. I want to try Ted’s cable riser to see if they worth $400. Be safe everyone and enjoy the music! |
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f208frank ... And, SR gives a 30-day trial on all of their products. Therefore, if they don't work out for you in your situation, you get a full refund with no questions asked. You only pay for the return shipping. What a scam, right? Frank |
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Have been using SR cable risers for a while now. Quite happy with them, although correct positioning is PIA. And this is the only complaint I can come up with. The effect is similar to that one of Orange fuses and ECTs. However, in my friend's system they worked slightly different - substantially widened the soundstage but because of that he got a hole in the middle. Took him a couple of days to fix that. Said he had to change a few cables ( he has over a hundred of spare ones and is the most knowledgeable person I have ever met ). Anyway, looks like it's a valuable tool which may require certain skills to be used. But it definitely works. Those who already know what ECTs, HFTs and Orange fuses are should give it a try. Chances are you won't be disappointed. |
Regarding the SR cable risers at 4 for $400, I hope you have two foot cables to each speaker or your gonna need at least a couple of packs of them.Yep, another ripoff aimed at the gullible, if you REALLY!!! believe it makes a difference, you can get 100 of them for $20!!!! At least this rubbish is in the correct forum. https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/353393544686?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=705-139619-5960-... Or take your pick https://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2334524.m570.l1313&_nkw=Plastic+Pizza+...+ Cheers George |
From my System Page comments https://systems.audiogon.com/systems/8367 "During the middle of one song (I had my eyes closed) ,Chuck took the cables off the Cable Elevators; I immediately heard the sound become distorted and muddy." Heard it with her eyes closed. Her own words. This stuff works. Deal with it. |
"During the middle of one song (I had my eyes closed) ,Chuck took the cables off the Cable Elevators; I immediately heard the sound become distorted and muddy."In a word https://youtu.be/YTY26k0CA0I?t=4 |