Joeyboynj, thank you for your prompt answer. I am currently cabled with Precision Reference IC, SC, Precision AC, T2, T3 and Acoustic Ref IC, and missing me only information on the Apex vs Acoustic Ref IC for CDP to preamp. I hope that the Apex is not analytical, but sounds analogical.
You have to evolve with the JM Lab Electra 1027 BE, in gray they are superb, congratulations.
Jazz |
The Apex is not analytical, its very organic and natural. It's very similar to the Acoustic Reference except retrieves more information so you can hear further into the recordings. If you have the extra cash... go for it. The Acoustic Reference is warmer and more tube like. |
Thank you Joey. I will order an Apex to replace my Acoustic.
Jazz |
Hey Jazz, Let us know how you like the Apex when you get them. THANKS! |
Hi Joey, When I posted my last message, the sound restitution of my cables were extremely warm.
They had approximately 200 hours, and then extreme warmth left and in this moment with approximately 260-280 hours they are rather neutral.
I will still await one can with the case or they would still evolve.
I think of buying Quattro soon if there is a new model evolved with a look like PowerCell.
Do you have information on the replacement of Quattro soon?
Thanks,
Jazz |
Does Synergistic have an exchange policy?
I never really paid much attention to this company until I heard the ARTs demonstration at the RMAF. |
Tbg,
I went through several Tesla cables AFTER purchasing Accelerator IC's and SC's. My dealer gave me a 100% trade-in allowance toward Apex. I think SR also has a lifetime trade in program. |
Jmo, here is an update for you. I have a Synergistic T3 on my LCD TV for about 2 months now. The colors are so vivid and the saturation is perfect. Thanks for the suggestion. |
Joeyboynj,
You are so very welcome...
Happy Holidays, |
Hi sorry no comments yet just a quick question are any of you running the Tesla speaker cables between Krell FPBcx series and Wilson Sophias? I Am currantly using SR Designers Ref X and was thinking of upgrading to Acoustic Ref. or Presision Ref not sure if I could foot the bill for the Apex. PS just didn't want to start another thread on the Tesla cables. I also conntacted usedcable for upgrade costs thanks for any of your comments. |
Heykay,
We are running Wilson Sophia's at CES in January- where we want to show what our cables can really do. I would not have selected the Wilson's if they did not work exceptionally well with my Tesla cables. The Precision Reference would be my choice over Acoustic Reference unless you are expressly looking for the unique signature of Acoustic Reference.
If you can, take them both out for a test run- that way you'll know for sure.
Yours in music,
Ted Denney Lead Designer Synergistic Research III
PS. Merry Christmas! |
I'm running biwire Apex between VAC 300.1 and VSA VR-7SE with great success. As mentioned above, this cable just does everything very well.
Also recently discovered the D-3 digital cable that Ted told me should sell for a lot more than they sell it for. He is correct - in my system it easily bested an Acrolink digital cable costing twice as much. I have an all SR system, with Hologram D pcs on the digital components, so to be fair, I would be pretty surprised if ANY cable could out-perform the D-3 in my application. The synergism is very real and I'm very happy. |
The Tesla SR cables are an excellent choice for Wilson speakers. I love them with my WP8s. |
I have been breakin in a Synergistic Research PowerCell, and I am writing a detailed review to be posted on Audiogon. Suffice it to say that, particularly after enhancing it with an SR Precision Reference into the AC mains, I have been rather impressed by its musical/sonic enhancement to my system. G. |
Have anyone installed and tried the Synergistic Teslaplex yet?
I did. Last night and right out of the box, the Teslaplex improved my soundstage, air, clarity and transparency over the Oyiade R1 outlet. Huge improvement! If you have Tesla power cords, I highly suggest you give this outlet a try.
Here is a Teslaplex review here on audiogon:
http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?htech&1228107456&openfrom&1&4 |
You know that all that differs on it is being zapped with a million volts. I have one coming along with a Power Cell and pcs. |
Yes, I installed the some of the first batch of Teslaplexes Eliott had sent out back in September (see my 9-24-08 post on this thread). They are great. Very black background, very wide and deep soundstage. |
is it possible to get any discount off msrp for the acoustic reference or precision reference speaker cables?
some dealers/companies do it and some don't so was wondering what bargaining I can do?
thanks |
There can be discounts available off list, but any of that talk is strictly between you and the dealer. Audiogon (and most other forums I know) strictly forbid that discussion, as does the manufacturer. |
Anybody audition or hear the S.R Tesla Plex duplex outlet. I am very concerned with any advantages it might be to a full Tesla set-up (eg.power cords, interconnects, Quattro, QLS 9 to wall). Any info will be of help..THX
REGARDS Bacardi |
Bacardi, I am going to install my Tesla duplex after I get accustomed to the Power Cell and the T2s. I just got everything yesterday, so it may be a while. |
Bacardi, go back my post above from 1/08/09. I have a review on the Teslaplex and also a link to a review here on the outlet... |
Thanks for the Tesla Plex info all and Joeyboynj for the review and pics. I am going to order two of them to audition. ONE OTHER QUESTION. Are the QLS 6 & QLS 9 made the same accept for the number of outlets. I might order 2 QLS 6's and return my QLS 9 to get 3 more outlets and a better even, equal spread in the room. I run a full home theater system and need the left & right spread. I am just waiting for my Sistrum SP-1 for underneath my SVS PB-13 Ultra(piano black) to define and resolve my bass issues. THX again all....
REGARDS Bacardi
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wow this is a long thread. I'll have to put time aside to read through it all. Looks like a good bit of info in it. |
Thanks joeyboynj for the info. One question. I noticed you have the Dark Field Shunyata cable elevators. Can you notice any difference with them under your cords???? I have an interest in them....Cableco has a sale on them till month end....Please let me know your specs....THX
REGARDS Bacardi |
Bacardi, see my comments on the Teslaplex at
http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?htech&1228107456&openmine&zzTbg&4&5#Tbg |
Norm. I'd like to hear about your current opinions on the Teslaplex outlet. I have now and am enjoying the Porter Port(Hubble) outlets and would appreciate another view of these Teslaplex outlets. Thanks. |
Sherod, I, of course, have no experience with the PorterPort. My comparison is nowhere near that done by Dlcockrum on the thread above. He has the advantage of quick a/b comparison. Actually, Dave came here some time ago agog with the Tesla outlet. I was already greatly impressed with the SR ARTs. I approached SR about it and the PowerCell.
I put the PowerCell in first and compared it with my IsoClean outlet driving my Acoustic Revive RTP-6. It was no contest. The sound stage was wider and more precise with lower background noise as well as rising vertically? I have never understood this impression, I must say. The bass was well defined and directional, and the top end was sparkling.
Yesterday I replaced an Eagle outlet on my other dedicated line with the Tesla. After five hours it was obviously also contributing to further improvement with the PowerCell. Best Audiophile Voices was "real" last night, but Sinatra & Basie at the Sands ranged from poor at the beginning to pretty good at the end. The SR combo really exposes the quality of the recording.
I suspect that the majority of the improvement is from the PowerCell, but the little outlet is worth it. I am no longer using the IsoClean, the Sound Applications/Jena Labs, or the R1.
I should also note that I expect great improvements today. |
Bacardi, yes the Shunyata Dark Fields work. Not a huge tweak but a nice one enough for me to keep them. I would have sent them back if they didn't work. This is what I found... music sounds more clear and fluid and without haze. There is a little more background noise eliminated causing more separation of instruments. They also relieved some congestion. |
Bacardi,
I have performed extensive listening tests with various cable elevators. Let me first state that when using a non-ferrous and non-dampening cable elevator with my upper end Tesla speaker cables, the improvements are significant.
Cable elevators to avoid are any designs that dampen the resonance of the speaker cable its self (foam material or dampened elevators) and ceramic bell shaped elevators that act as a resonator and impart their own resonance into the speaker cable.
Cable elevators to consider- any elevator made from either wood or Plexiglas. Ideal height would be 4 inches or more.
Benefits: A larger more layered and deeper sound field. Tighter bass with greater control and extension. More air and sense of decay in the soundfield. Less "hi-fi", more "you-are-there".
Easy experiment: When using a standard 8ft length speaker cable take 4 CD jewel cases per cable placing them open on the floor making the letter "V". Now drape your speaker cables atop the CD jewel cases (with CD's removed) being careful to allow the speaker cable to lay the way it wants (when possible) and not force it into position. You should hear the above-mentioned benefits assuming your system and room are up to the task.
I hope this helps.
Yours in music,
Ted Denney III
Lead Designer, Synergistic Research Inc. |
THX Ted. I think this should be addressed to joeyboynj too cuz I asked him in a thread about the Shunyata's and he has them, and he stated they worked well for him.....I will look for wooden elevators to try out....THX again
REGARDS Bacardi |
Well, Ted, as much as I like your stuff, I have to disagree about plastic and wood. I have found that only ceramics and even there some more than others, have the neutrality that I value.
I bought some surplus 18KV isolators because they were tall and did not move. Unfortunately, I had to put a small better sounding ceramic isolator on top each. Those that I found best were from Rightway Audio and called Suspenders. Unfortunately, I think they are now out of business.
Norm |
Norm,
I am not saying my cable elevator recommendations hold true for all cables, just mine : )
Yours in music,
Ted Denney III
Lead Designer, Synergistic Research Inc. |
Actually Tbg. I will let you know how my custom made Hifi Pyon NDCL01 Beech wood cable elevators sound when I get them. I had them raised 4" and a bigger profile to hold all my Tesla cords. It will be the proof for all Active S.R cords. I hope they work..LOL
REGARDS Bacardi |
I have independently talked with Ted and now know that he really means that he does not like ceramic insulators, such as I am using as they resonate. Wood may work best on his cords
Long ago I did extensive tests of maple, walnut, pine, glass, special foam such as used in shipping memory chips, ceramic coffee cups, cardboard, chop sticks, and support on strings. This was with no Synergistic Research cords or cables. I greatly preferred the ceramics. I will be trying the SRs soon with some of the above, but I am from Missouri, so I have to be shown. |
I should be ordering a Powercell 10 SE (32A, Precision AC, etc.) later this week. Once I break it in I will post some impressions of it. |
Rydenfan, I think you are going to be very happy. |
I need to know if I can wire a Teslaplex which is 20 amps into a 15 amp circuit. The house I'm in is old and still has a fuse panel,I know(LOL). Any help......
REGARDS Bacardi |
Bacardi, do you have three wires at your outlets or two? If you have three, I believe all of your outlets already have 20 amp outlets regardless of what size fuse there is on the circuit. If you have any real doubt, get an electrician to come out. |
Thx Tbg. I have hooked up the Teslaplex outlet and its like someone hit a loudness button on my system with added dynamics. I am more of a movie buff and noticed better clarity in the movies, more volume, bass extension, and the utmost cleanest soundstage. I don't have one connected to my subs power & rca cords on other side of the room, though I might order one to feed them. Definitely a must for a full system set-up. A+++ Ted........
REGARDS Bacardi |
Bacardi, unplug the wallwart from the PowerCell if you want to quickly heard what the field inside is doing. The blue LED will go out. I never thought of this until talking with SR today. |
For those of you that are using TeslaPlexs, what wall plates are you using with it? Is there a particular plate that SR recommends? |
I actually spoke with Ryan/Elliot about the plate and the suggestion was to just use the regular plastic plate....Mainly, It'll do the job.....If there are other alternatives for better quality, I'm all ears...
REGARDS Bacardi
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Question: The PowerCell 10 SE comes with the Precision AC power cord that uses a 32Amp connector.
Has the wire itself been increased in gauge over the 15 A Precision AC power cord?
I would hope so, but, there is no mention of that on the website desciption nor pictures. |
Ozzy, I have both and just checked. They look to be the same except for the connector. The 32a connector is very nice.
Rydenfan, I also used the plastic wall plate. Maybe at some point I will try some thing else. |
I received my Powercell 10 SE yesterday and the build quality is absolutely incredible. The high-gloss casing is beautiful. I will report back once I have some hours on it.
I would think the Oyaide wall plate would be a nice upgrade over the standard one. I would assume it at the very least has less resonance.
http://www.oyaide.com/e_audio/audio_products_files/wpc-z2.html |
My Powercell 10 SE arrives this Wednesday. I'm currently using a Precision AC 15 amp on my power conditioner and it provides plenty of power. |
Joeyboynj, I tried a SR Precision on my amp versus the Hologram A, it lost. But wow did it work great on the line stage. I just love the way everything is trial and error. You need to get a Hologram D for your digital. |
Guys, I know the SR states on their site that the material the powercell is made of is resistant to scratches, but be careful!! I was so careful with placing mine in my rack due to the piano finish but mine lightly touched the hinge on my Salamander stand. The chassis itself is not scratched but the side of the faceplate is. Even though it is a small scratch it is a total bummer. So I just wanted to put it out there to the rest of you guys to be extra careful. |
Tbg, I do have a hologram on my CDP. And a Hologram A on my integrated amp. I precision AC work best on a power conditioner or a large tube amp. |
