Raven vs primaluna integrated amplifiers

@arafiq, you are still planting strawmen and not addressing my argument. It is okay, I know you know not the first thing about PCB manufacturing, but here you are trying to defend something you know nothing about.  You remind me of fan boys on stock websites. So much fervor for something they know nothing about.  The best way to address this is by repeating something skypunk wrote. All that talk about your CM means little if what deliver is not high quality,

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Well James delivered it (I had to meet him at a mall but that is okay) and I brought it home to set it up in my system. Well Bryant at the factory packed my Blackhawk out with defective tubes and when I fired it up well smoke came out of the thing. I emailed Bryant and James and they said they would check it out, so I packed it up and met up with James at the same mall and he took it back. Never once did they ask what I wanted to do or tried to keep me happy.

So, the next day an Agoner asked me how the Blackhawk was working out and I posted what happened. Well over night my phone is blowing up with text messages from James and they were none too kind. Dave then proceeded to lambaste me and brought up another issue I had with my CeLest Towers. (yes, they have an issue with system controls and QC processes. As a MSME in an industry where if we send the wrong part trains derail and aircraft fall out the sky, I am critical of these short comings especially when they are so simple to fix but are repeated (at least with me). I had even written a review and it is posted on the Raven Audio website and here at Audiogon.com about my experience with the CeLest, but I digress.

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@skypunk -- have you tried any tube rolling with your Blackhawk yet? 

yep sure have and we can PM each other.

@arafiq these snipers like audio2design you know the guy who claims to have all these patents, glupson and two left ears are just here to tear people down.

petty little children with nothing in their meaningless lives.

I have some work to do around here and will reach out to you later. Heck we live close we should get a coffee some time.

@gulpson you could not afford 2 nights at our property in Destin.

Bye bye gulpson.

so much hate and envy from such a little person.

arafiq, There is no reason to pay attention because he has no credibility. Leave the clown alone and soon he will have no one left but the other clowns to talk to. If you want to figure out who I am talking about simply pick any of the many threads that go on for pages with nothing but the same few people throwing barbs back and forth at each other. Clowns.

brianpmayer1-

my Monitor Audio Gold’s are made by a company based in England but manufactured in China. However, these speakers were purchased year’s ago and before I fully understood China’s policies and true intentions. I sincerely believe most people in China are good. However, they have been brainwashed by the CCP much like what NAZI Germany did to the people of Germany prior to WWII. My apologies for continuing this political rant on an audio blog but I feel very strongly about what is taking place in our nation and across the globe. People need to wake up and realize that if we fail to take action our children and grandchildren may one day be forced to speak Mandarin. The action I take is to support politicians who share my views and make a conscience effort to look at every label and first, purchase products made in USA and second, those not made in Communist countries. Purchasing anything "made in China" is the equivalent of feeding the monster that is going to eat you. God Bless America!

This post got no traction because the usual clowns can find nowhere to get a grip on tearing it apart. Especially since you, like me, once thought differently and are not ashamed to admit to owning some made in China. This shows we are willing and able to learn. Clowns never do. We correctly distinguish between the people and the CCP. Clowns cannot compute. Worst of all we know history, recognize patterns, and are not shy about trying to roust those around us to wake the you know what up!  

At this point, to judge by the most prolific posters, it would seem they are all deep in dream sleep. But this is why I keep talking about all the people who avoid posting but PM me directly instead. We are sounding the alarm, and we are reaching way more people than you think.

Glupson, audio2design and twoleftears I want to thank you for allowing me to live rent free in your head for the last couple of days.

There is a lot of room in here so I am subletting space to @millercarbon and @arafiq. 
Again your obsessions are not good for your mental health.

skypunk,

"@gulpson you could not afford 2 nights at our property in Destin."

I could save for a year, but you would have to redesign it. It is simply not the decorating style I would enjoy spending time in.

"Glupson, audio2design and twoleftears I want to thank you for allowing me to live rent free in your head for the last couple of days."

You are welcome. I never rent homes out, never had the need to, so everybody stays for free.

At the same time, how long will my name occupy the space under the pictures on your "system page"? Is having my name attached how you are planning to market your rental? I am sorry, I am not available for endorsements. Please remove it.

@tyray,
You are welcome . The Luxman SQ-N 150 is a formidable contender in the price range stated  by the OP. Best of luck to you. 
Charles 

"And who asked your opinions ever."

The list is long.

could save for a year, but you would have to redesign it. It is simply not the decorating style I would enjoy spending time in.

 Why would I it’s for rent and we use it once a year for 2 weeks a year.
 Oh and I evicted out from my page, but you are probably used to rejection.

Have a wonderful rest of your life. 
No really. 

skypunk,

Thanks for removing my name from your "system page". It had no business being there. I also noticed you removed other non-audio pictures from there, too. That was a good move. Keep it that way. You see, I do give you good advice and you do listen.

Now, secretly, consider audio2design’s and mine observations about room adjustments to improve the sound of your system even further. If it is not possible for whatever reason, so be it, but consider it at least.

When China takes Taiwan by force good luck getting parts and service.  The PCC has stated CLEARLY they will take Taiwan by force. That’s not my opinion. It’s precisely what China is saying is inevitable.  A lot of people are going to die whether it’s our people or not (most likely ours as well). Anyone buying anything from China now clearly does not follow the news. I never ever post but to suggest that buying Chinese is not a consideration clearly demonstrates no awareness of the news. It’s like buying German in 1939 and saying the topic is off limits.

One simple Google search about what’s currently happening to Chinese minority groups, Hong Kong, intellectual theft, Covid release, cyber war, destroying African Rhinos for manliness potions etc and then armed with knowledge about what’s about to happen to Taiwan will turn your blood cold and make you think twice about giving a brutal dictatorship your business. If something was built with slave labor would that be off topic?

Do yourself a favor and spend 5 minutes reading the news. Buying from a country that says RIGHT NOW they intend to use nuclear bombs on Australia and the US is far worse than buying products made with slave labor. Buy American, Japanese, British or Korean because it is these countries that will spill a lot of blood in the next 5 years. Again, that’s not my opinion. This is precisely what China is saying TODAY.