Raven vs primaluna integrated amplifiers

And the thread goes further away from the OP.

Goodnight kids.

Bye bye gulpson.

so much hate and envy from such a little person.

could save for a year, but you would have to redesign it. It is simply not the decorating style I would enjoy spending time in.

 Why would I it’s for rent and we use it once a year for 2 weeks a year.
 Oh and I evicted out from my page, but you are probably used to rejection.

Have a wonderful rest of your life. 
No really. 

Dude zero Japan also.

I have a Raven Audio Blackhawk, Moon by Simaudio 260D transport, 280D DSD/DAC all made in Canada, Icon Audio PS2 made in UK, Thorens TD145 turntable made in Switzerland, Raven Audio CeLest Towers, Raven Audio Soniquil cables all made in the USA.

System in our vacation home is all Italy with Pathos and Sonus faber.

It is very easy to avoid China. Look at Pass, Klipsch, VPI,.......

@glupson We own a vacation home is St. Anne Bay Jamaica that we rent. I also own 2 homes in Florida and one in Colorado. They are all vacation rentals as we rent them out when we are not using them.

Guess that is hard to get your head around?

Later Gulp.

Punk.

Raven period!

I have a Blackhawk in my main system and it replaced McIntosh MA252. 
Build quality is is fantastic. Sound is beyond words.

45 day returns so what do you have to lose.

Read the member review’s here  https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/raven-audio-nighthawk-mk3

https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/review-raven-audio-blackhawk-integrated-soniquil-cables

BUILT IN THE REPUBLIC OF TEXAS!!!

@tablejockey 

Of course its a subjective thing, but using the "it's made in China" reasoning is dumb.

Quite easy to keep from having any made in China in your system and have top shelf gear. I have.

But I do agree the world is flat in the global economy. Sucks but it is a fact. 

With the Raven you’re limiting your power tube options, so you should do some

@glow_worm also shows his ignorance on Raven.

A call to Dave or James and you will get the best advice on tube rolling.

I will say the same would be true of Kevan Deal at Upscale Audio on tube rolling for the Primaluna product. 
Both Raven Audio and Upscale Audio are first class and you will get great support, I know as I also own a Pathos In Pol 2 that is in my vacation house. 

Also with Raven it is about the quality of those watts not the quantity.

Punk.

@twoleftears yep and I scooped it up the day it was listed. 
When was the last time you had seen one listed?

Snooze you lose and 4 people sat there watching the one I bought.

The meek and timid inherit nothing!

@glupson it is perfect for me and I will invest my money where it pays dividends.

 At least I post my gear unlike snipers like you.

I did not solicited your advice. The original post was about Raven and Primaluna. To wit you have made zero contributions to the topic. You chose to snipe.
 Goodbye Gulp if I could block your ass I would.

We all have our preferences and no carpet is yours. I prefer no carpet myself. It is very easy to explain that to someone giving you an advice on an audio forum. No need for obnoxious responses.

As for why Texas is related to better sound quality, this is a head

scratcher. Maybe if we were discussing live stock.

Everything is bigger in Texas. And we are proud of our republic here in Texas. Unlike you and your ilk.

Also rarely do you ever see a Raven listed here on Agon, US Audio-mart or EBay. But tones of PL gear in the used market.

people buy Raven Audio and keep it.

Have to wonder if you ever even auditioned a Raven?
Sure @glow_worm sure.

@corelli 

Once again, little information on SQ. How does this help the OP? I get the political implications, but this is an AUDIO forum. Primarily. Right? Maybe not.

  Ummm I posted 2 links to reviews and I am sure the OP can search on google.

Jeez....

Not cheaper design or materials. If it was made in America it would

be the same just more expensive.

 Not true but you are free to think that. Look at US companies like Raven, Rogue, Cary, Decware, Quick Silver, LTA, Manley that make FANTASTIC gear and compete price wise and exceed in quality of their Chinese peers.

Silly logic

yep sure have and we can PM each other.

@arafiq these snipers like audio2design you know the guy who claims to have all these patents, glupson and two left ears are just here to tear people down.

petty little children with nothing in their meaningless lives.

I have some work to do around here and will reach out to you later. Heck we live close we should get a coffee some time.

@glupson  I am not going to indulge you tonight.

Dig ... dig ... dig. The person was taking pictures of people, not the house. 

Look again fool!
Such a petty child.

Glupson, audio2design and twoleftears I want to thank you for allowing me to live rent free in your head for the last couple of days.

There is a lot of room in here so I am subletting space to @millercarbon and @arafiq. 
Again your obsessions are not good for your mental health.

Both are great products supported by great people here in the US.

People make products not countries.

Where you spend your money and what politics you supports is your business.

This thread has wondered so far off into the weeds it is not funny. It has turned into the usual suspect sniping any one and character assassinations right and left ( I am not without fault here).

Stay on topic the OP did not come here for the bull!

I am done with most of you, you miserable lot!

@gulpson you could not afford 2 nights at our property in Destin.