power conditioning question gentlemen


      I,m considering a power conditioner /surge unit ,Two sunfire subs,nu vista intergrated(draws some juice) ,transport,dac,tt, phono section (dc-ac i may just plug in wall)  .Dedicated 20amp run directly to room x 2 hospital grade rec. I have been looking into richard grays,furman ref,shunyata etc.I have a unique set up here in nor cal.I am completley off grid!,I run a serious solar and res set up with a genny back up.The power is pretty consistant although during changes in genny start up or at time it does fluctuate a little .I never hear it or have never measured a spiked it drops slightly during those milliseconds.I would like to snag a used one in the 1k range .
thoughts??

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Furman's pro gear is very cost effective, and among the best surge protection you can buy if you get the line with series mode surge protection.

Richard Gray's is very expensive, but does a great job of cleaning up noise, however it's not a true surge/line protector. It's a resonant tank which does smooth out the power cycle to cycle, but won't really stop anything catastrophic.

Furman's home gear gets quite pricey.

If money is no object, and you never want to hear a bad power cycle I'd look at the Canadian PurePower, designed by the head of Jensen transformers, he knows his stuff really well.

http://partsconnexion.com/fin_prod_pp_main.html

Best,

Erik
Falconquest,i agree ,i do not feel like i am in need of "conditioning my power its generated 100’away and is very clean.I am interested in my novice terms. "a supply of water storage so when im using 1gallon a min and open a valve i can get 3 gallon instantly" as an example . That why i,m thinking torrodial my amp alone is 1200 watts . mark at core in the short time we spoke while i was driving offered an 1800w for 1500 retail he said its 60/60 reversed polarity something like that its out of my wheel house.My amp can produce 40amps peak output and i just feel like its sucking thru a straw sometimes when everything is rolling heavy , maybe in my mind .i would also like a surge protection of some kind .Does any of this make sense ? the future is alternative power ,so i am cutting edge lol ;)
My buddy has well into 6figure in a serious offgrid setup and he has dropped probly 10 k on furman ref units .I just don.t know if thats the key for me ...
opinions please
I cannot respond to your "off the grid" status but I did a lot of research into balanced power over the last couple of years. Some make it sound like it's electrical magic and is deeply complex. It is not. Balanced power is simply clean, 120v power for your system. Look for a used BPT unit or take the offer from Mark from core power technologies above. Yes, BPT is no longer in business but their products are available used at times and if you think about it, can they wear out? It's all about the transformer and BPT made exceptional units. You may also look for used Equi-tech (they pretty much invented balanced power) or Furman offers the P2400-IT albeit out of your price range as a new unit. I wish you luck. There is a lot of mis-information out there about balanced power but if you do the research you will also learn a lot about your system power requirements and how balanced power can help. I am very satisfied with my BPT 2.5 Signature unit. 
Folkfreak i perfer used .. Mark ar core says his 1800 w torrodial would do wonders . Dual 60 out of phase .. 1500 retail . He was a nice guy . Anythoughts .. I dont feel i sufffer from the same issues in ac others do just feel like sometimes my amp is sucking thru a straw maybe just my mind lol 
OK so you have an off grid battery source which is great, issues with the generator are probably best dealt with by simply turning off or disconnecting the generator when using the hi fi for critical listening. Your main issue seems to be making sure the sensitive components have as clean as possible a source (i.e. minimizing interference from other things on your power system like fridges and lights) and that the amps have a supply that supports peak load

If I was you then I'd avoid a regenerator at any costs (they basically will only increase the load on your battery cells and as the main benefit a regenerator brings is cleaning up the power which is not your issue they bring little to the party)

I'll not comment on balanced power (I used to have a full Equi=Tech balanced set up but the cost and complexity of this is well outside your budget). 

Currently I use Synergistic Research Power Cell 10SE UEF, being upgraded to 12 UEF so you can get good deals on used 10SEs, but still will be $2K a pop. They work exceptionally with both sources and heavy duty amps (like my 450W per channel mono blocks). These components follow a wall mounted Torus transformer so I already have clean power but the added benefit of the SR products is still very clear.

I also like the look of the new Shunyata Denali -- especially the way they support macho power plugs, but again much more than your budget.

You could try the lower end products in either line ideally working with a dealer that will give you a long trial and maybe a 100% trade up option. Alternatively buy used and trade up as you desire
My PS Audio unit shows me that in most cases incoming current has over 2 % THD and outcoming 0.4 %, that's a big difference that I can hear. 117volts should be alright for most equipment but some will sound better with 120V-121V. You could get the same unit, it shows up on Audiogon from time to time, the going price is $750-$800, and plug in your turntable, phono, cd transport and dac. Not certain about your amp and subs, that could be too much for the regenerator especially for subs, I guess. Just an idea.
I have seen the core power not in person though .. I have a 16kwh battery backup it was 10k not lithium it wasn't in vogue yet( 3yrs  old flawless matenence)  .. Last i checked when electrician was there i remember 117 hz i will double check . Thd honesty dont know how to check that . When the genny fires on it is only charging the batteries 12kw . It also has other leads that send power only when on , hence the size .. But when it goes off i can see a slight flicker in the florescent bulbs . I rarely run my 2-2 when its either low or not being charged . Sun or gen i have a meter in kitchen % amps volts . Ht room hairdryrs microwave electric lg fridge plasmas on  no sweat . I know my amp can deliver 40amps of power sometimes i feel like it may be starving when im rocking . Never hear anything just my mind wondering .
              Inna i would have zero problems plugging the subs into the wall but the amp which has an external power supply tt and phono sec i would like to address ..
Thoughts please  
May I humbly suggest that using Balanced Power instead of pure "conditioning" might yield some amazing results. 

Please feel free to e-mail at corepowertech@outlook.com

Or call - 720.317.9141

Happy to help... happy to dig in and even lend you a unit to try.

Thanks

Mark
If the issue is the effect of the generator have you considered a battery solution to store power from the solar array? The Tesla product is an obvious option. Battery based power supplies are a big trend in audio with products such as the Stromtank. Looks like you could get the same type of setup at much less cost given your existing array
Can you measure the voltage and THD of incoming current that you are getting? And the turntable speed.
Power conditioning can be a complicated thing, you might have to experiment a lot. My case was simple - I had fluctuating voltage and dirty current in the apartment. Until very recently I was using inexpensive Furman voltage stabilizer/conditioner. It didn't stabilize well, cleaned up the current a little but not well. Now I have PS Audio Power Plant Premier regenerator and the difference is huge. But your situation is different, and those two subs require an additional thought.
I would probably first try something with the turntable and phono only and then go from there. You could start with PS Audio Dectet conditioner from Music Direct for $400 that can be easily returned.