I just returned and picked up another copy of the QOTSA cd that was defective. This disc does the same thing. Since Best Buy had this disc on a nation-wide special last week, i'm thinking that the manufacturer probably cranked out TONS of discs as fast as possible. As such, it might be possible that they are all "defective" and have these ticks and pops in them. I'm going to try returning it to a different Best Buy tomorrow and hope for the best. Sean
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Jc, probably made in Switerland.
cheese |
Both are "rock" discs. The first disc that i noticed this on was "The Vines: Highly Evolved"*. The second disc, which has far more noticeable ticks that are louder in amplitude, longer in duration and greater in quantity, is "Queens of the Stone Age: Songs For The Deaf"**. The "Queens" disc has one CD in it and includes a free DVD that has the band playing live on it. I have not watched the DVD to any great extent, so i don't know if that is as "whacked up" as the cd is.
Newbee: I do not doubt your experience with the Telarc dual layer aka "hybrid" CD / SACD's in the least. It was with these very discs that i suffered listening fatigue within 10 - 15 minutes and a near instant headache. In my opinion, something is VERY wrong with them. For the record and sake of clarity, we were listening to these on SACD machines at the time. Sean
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* The Vines are part of the "Neo-Mod Brit Rock" scene. They have been lumped in with other bands such as The Hives and The White Stripes due to having a "somewhat" similar sound.
** Queens of the Stone Age sound something like a cross between more current Monster Magnet and Soundgarden. If you like either of these bands, you'll probably like QOTSA. Dave Grohl from Foo Fighters / Nirvana is listed as one of main band members, but there is also a very long list of guest musicians, etc.. |
Since I get most of my CDs from the library, I'm quite used to pops and ticks, since many discs look like they had taken a trip through a gravel pit. However, I was interested to discover that one newer disc that's not in bad shape has a defective aluminum layer. (Looking at it with a strong light, you can see little holes like you would on a disc that's rotting out.) This may be a rarity--or else it may be that I'm right when I cynically say that recording industry just doesn't care about quality. |
could this perhaps be an artifact of the infamous "INAUDIBLE" watermarking / copy protection??? |
Sean, please state which disc have this problem. Clicks and pops can occur in digital sourced material due to poor word clock synchronization in the recording studio. It's a sign of poor engineering that such clicks make it through to the finished product. |
Sean, please state which disc have this problem. Clicks and pops can occur in digital sourced material due to poor word clock synchronization in the recording studio. It's a sign of poor engineering that such clicks make it through to the finished product. |
The ticks and pops are a new feature aimed at luring back people who "have gone winyl" as they say in the industry, I am told. The next step is a reduction in frequency response and a reduction of the s and increase of the n of the dreaded s/n ratio. Personally, I am awaiting the rumoured return of the LP sized jacket with printing I can actually read. Yes I did hear it on one cd at least, and surmised it was all in my imagination. Now, I am not so sure... |
There are a number of bands that are purposely recording vinyl-like noise to recapture some of that "old time" feel. There was a big article on it in Spin magazine a few months ago. I am not saying that is what you are hearing, but it reminded me of that article. I own a couple of those CDs (Waldeck's Reflowered, Air's Premiers Symptomes, etc.) and it really does sound like an old vinyl. It seems to be getting popular - so ironic it's funny. Arthur |
I've heard the ticks that you're talking about. They occur at consistent points in the music and Aural Illuminator doesn't fix them. They might be static in the recording process. In the early days of cd, "Frankie Goes to Hollywood" catalogued the ticks on their cd and gave likely causes.
On the bright side, even my worst cd has few ticks than my best vinyl. |
On two CD's that I have, I get a noise, almost like a small frog croaking. Serious. It only occurs once on each CD, same spot.
Matty |
I've noticed very occasional subbass thumps but no pops or ticks.
will |
i've not noticed clicks and pop's but i recently put on Telarc's dual layer Zander's Mahler 6 and on my BAT i just couldn't connect to the high frequencies on the disc, they seem mildly distorted. i've never had that problem before w/Telarc or any other disc's. Out of curiosity i played it thru a cal delta/alpha and it sounded fine (the cal is more forward, warm, and rolled off). Interesting, but i'm not sure what it means. i suspect its an interface problem. Have you tried any dual layer disc's? any problems? |
I've regularly noticed artifacts that sound like a cross between a click and a thump on DDD classical CD's. Teldec CD's come to mind. Since these have all seemed to occur at likely edit points, I have assumed that they are from the editing process. I haven't heard random clicks and I buy about 10 new CD's a month now. |
