Old SS amps


What are people's experiences with old SS amps. And I'm talking old like close to 20 years. I guess this can be called vintage(though to me it's yesterday.)

 

Either you bought it new and have had it that long or you bought it used.

Is buying it used a really bad idea even though it was owned by one person with no service issues? Like an old Pass.

I hear something about capacitators needing to be replaced. Should it be avoided like the plague? Am very interested in one but don't want to be stuck with a cat in a sack.

Thanks for any thoughts.

roxy1927

Still using a 30 year old Onkyo TX-8011 with Audio Physic Spark floor standers. While not the last word in resolution, the pair are musical.

I purchased them together, in the last trimester before my son’s birth, when I was told by other dad’s to buy what I want now, because I would be broke for the next 22 years. How right they were smiley

Anyone remember Proton amps? They were a spinoff from NAD, which was itself a spinoff from AR. I remember the Proton sound was beefy and resonate, when they worked. Too often, they blew transistors.

ETA--Did anyone own Lafayette Radio Electronics equipment? That was my intro to "hifi." My neighbors bought their amplifier, speakers and a Garrard turntable. I was SO envious, and saved up $$$ from my newspaper route to buy exactly what they had.

I have a 40 year old Denon PMA 757 in my separate vintage system---I've only had it serviced once when the volume knob had a little static and one of the lights went out. Other than that---no issues. Still sounds great.

@OP As Hk_fan says above, it is brand and maybe even model dependent. If you are looking at twenty years plus, especially if it's a high powered amp, you can expect to be looking at a PSU reservoir caps replacement - though not necessarily immediately. A visual inspection will show if there are major dangers. However, caps are not the only failure point in an amplifier - e.g. rectifiers and output devices are also prone to failure. And replacement components are not necessarily available. So it's basically a crapshoot. Gear can on on for ages or it can fail. I've seen old Quad 405s get beaten to death in studios and go on almost indefinitely. You pays your money and takes your chances.

I am currently using a pair of McIntosh MC501s that I bought used 20 years ago.  The drive 3.6 Maggies beautifully and have been rock solid all this time.  I believe I could sell them for what I paid, although I have no reason to do that.  Build quality is a real thing over time.

@bdp24 that old BEL amplifier is an excellent amp.  It produces a slightly warm overall musical sound with pretty good details, high and low end extension.  We compared it to a few modern day amps and it was the winner for producing overall musical pleasure.  I think it has 2 or 4 larger PS capacitors.  It was a very simple design that worked so well.

For those of you who say run away, you need to rethink this.  PS capacitors like Nichicon SuperThrou's probably run around $50 each so replacing four of them is not expensive.  We have a bunch of different 15-20 year old amps in for repair now.  Most have simple issues and customers just want to upgrade the caps, etc.  Once upgraded, current models you may be familiar with usually cannot compete.

My old Lafayette KT-550 tube amp in stock form still kicks the crap out of many current models and sometimes pretty significantly!
Upgraded older Counterpoint amplifiers also kick butt once upgraded (full/complete upgrade/modifications almost complete rebuilds with point to pint wiring ($2k-$3K).

You won't find many if at all new amplifiers with point-to-point wiring!

So for a $3K investment you get a fantastic upgraded product that kicks butt!  Great parts, great sound.

Happy Listening.