Many of you own or have read of the highly-regarded PPT Omega E Mat, one of Tim Mrock’s revolutionary signal-enhancing accessories. Just prior to his untimely passing, Tim had finished developing a new generation of his Omega mat, soon to be available. Krissy Mrock has asked a few of us to introduce this new mat, here given the working title of The Double Omega.
In distinguishing the Double Omega, we know the original Omega, herein called the single, as a 7.5” by 10”, rather heavy and somewhat pliable mat, a bit more than 1/8” thick and with a vinyl-like feel. One face is glossy white, displaying the PPT logo and Omega name, while the other is black, smooth and magnetized. Sandwiched between these faces is the active material that causes components to reject the EMI that saturates everything in our surroundings. The Double Omega is much the same, with one important difference: the magnetized face has the finely-textured feel of around, say, 220-grit sandpaper. This texture, it is presumed, comprises yet a second active layer of EMI rejection. Presumed—because working details of the Double Omega are not well understood—better yet to know how to apply it.
With the understanding that the single Omega E mats generate field effects from both faces, mats have typically been placed under and over components and vertically over circuit breakers. How you apply the Double Omega will depend on best use and experimentation. In my case, I have removed two single mats, lying side-by-side, from the top of my large Wadia CDP and have replaced those with two Double Omegas. The Wadia is a one-box player that contains a pre-amp, so I wanted that second, strong field effect exerting downward as well as upward. I also have several singles placed underneath, just as before. Going straight to amps, this player is my only source, so I want it fully protected from EMI. Your priorities will differ.
As of this writing, I am only thirty-hours in on placing these Double Omegas, and I can already tell you they are powerful in their prevention of EMI within my digital source. Yet another veil has been lifted—all instruments and voices are even more sorted out in the aural space with new information heard within that space. There is much more decay heard against a new silence behind and between the musicians. I am already so pleased and excited about what the Double Omega E mats are doing. As Krissy told me, Tim was really stoked to have these new mats available. Rather than wait for the the fourteen-day window of improvement, I want to get this intro out so others can relay their experiences sooner.
I've got to get out of the mindset that every "NO" gets one closer to a "YES." I'm afraid it is burned into the subconscious mind after a half-century in the sales business. Personally, I'm close to giving up on trying to convince these guys of something they refuse to be convinced of, and something they could personally benefit from.
At some point, coming to the realization that one is dealing with someone possessing a mind slammed shut can be a relief.
It would certainly seem that they get more enjoyment from stirring the pot on forums, criticizing things they have no experience with, and disparaging others, than actually looking for, and trying, new ways to improve their own music listening experience.
"I think what glupson was trying to say is that your unbridled idolatry to the point of ignoring reality ..."
So, here's the interesting and confusing part, atdavid ... how do you and glupson know what our "reality" is if you've never experienced it for yourselves? And could that "idolatry" really be unbridled enthusiasm for a product that has gob-smacked us upside the head to the point where we just want to share the good news?
I think what glupson was trying to say is that your unbridled idolatry to the point of ignoring reality was perhaps not a great promotional technique beyond a limited and easily influenced crowd. His lesson unfortunately was lost. You started this thread to promote the product. Perhaps you should listen to him.
I have no desire to denigrate Glupson but he truly is a lost cause Frank. We all know by now he has no intention of ever trying any PPT products because he might then have to eat some large slices of Humble Pie.
Now by his own admittance he also really has no interest in whether or not they work. He only wanted to tell everyone how poor a job of advertising they were doing and present a much better global corporate architecture for PPT to follow.
Not criticising that but not sure as that is of any concerns bar PPT themselves.
I would love for you to place a PPT Gate into your circuit breaker box, along with two Omega "Plus" E-mats, then liberally use Total Contact throughout your system, then place "Stop-Its" throughout your house in every unused socket, and finally place Omega E-Mats under your electronics, then see if you still think the results are "minuscule adjustments."
Honestly, you speak of what you know nothing about. It is akin to you telling someone like me who grew up in the beach towns of Southern California that there is no way that I can surf big waves without using a surfboard. Just give me a good pair of flippers, and watch. :-)
Glupson--PPT Omega mats are not "minuscule adjustments" in anyone’s system---they are game changing, even in highly-invested systems. Thanks for the "free consultation", but you need PPT more than PPT needs you.
He was an inventor. There is almost nothing in science attributed to Tesla. I get that you want to believe that but he did pretty much nothing to advance fundamental science maybe nothing. He literally shunned theoretical physics, arrogantly assuming he knew it all. That is why he had so many crazy hypotheses that were wrong because he refused to accept that there were things he did not know that others did.
Be was not a great scientific mind, a great mind perhaps, but in many ways he shunned science and those that knew things he did not and could theorize where he could not.
No, I do not have any PPT products. I am not really that invested in minuscle adjustments to sound I get. I do not have time for that, either.
Before any other thought, and in case you misplaced that tack as all of us sometimes do, I would like to make sure you recognize that my comments here focused solely on the purpose of this thread (...has asked a few of us to introduce this new mat..."). I looked, read, thought, and eventually commented, on the business/marketing aspect of it. The aspect of someone with no emotional investement in it who has to figure out how to improve presentation and final results. I pointed out some of the defficiences I could see in presenters’ approaches and even suggested a few routes that may have more potential than recirculating praises in one small circle of supporters. For some reason, you guys, tasked with presenting a product, took it as a personal offense instead of constructive criticism. If you want to improve, you do not ask for opinion from the one who thinks like you, you ask for it from the one who could trip you. That way, you can fix the holes in your game.
I took all of your claims about it working as "it works" because it is a completely different topic that I do not want to have anything to do with. Still, that aspect is also very important and being unprepared to answer questions about it in a coherent and calm manner can ruin even the best product. You failed miserably on that one. Granted, it may be because the inventor never told details to anyone.
Unfortunately for PPT, even Apple is not basing all of its current bussiness on the memory of one charismatic visionary. It takes more than that to sell the product. And that is what you were asked to do here. This may be difficult time for the family and friends and some of these thoughts may need to wait for a little bit, but challenges will not disappear just because they are inconvenient at this point.
jafreeman,
"Well, Glupson--we are buying and using PPT products. That tends to help."
It does not hurt, but it may not be enough to support the business long-term. Your presentation, with a listening session, to audiophiles in Kuala Lumpur may go much further. Try it.
Tesla was a tinkerer. He invented some obviously important things but he actually did nothing to advance our fundamental understanding of the world. He shunned theoretical physics and those who attempted deeper understanding.
"Perhaps, you might consider a future career as a police negotiator."
Try 40 years of selling residential real estate in the brutally competitive Southern California real estate market. That was fun stuff. Never had a day that I didn't want to go to work.
By the way, I'm hooked on the homicide program "The First 48." Does anyone else here watch that program? Talk about a sales job ... When the detectives get the suspect in the interview room, the detectives become master salespeople in order to get the perp to confess to the crime. Fun to watch.
There’s a whole series of "Poll Winners" recordings on the Contemporary label. The one above features three of the giants of jazz ... Ray Brown on bass, Shelly Manne on Drums and the great Barney Kessel on guitar.
The recordings produced by Contemporary at the start of the stereo age in the 1950s through the 1960s usually have excellent sound and performances. Also, check out jazz recordings on the Pacific Jazz label.
Check out their mono recording too. They can be superb.
I admit I can get swayed rather easily. Case in point. Earlier today I told my wife I would love to have some grass fed burgers and she replied no we’re having salmon and you’re going to like it, to which I rendered “yes dear”...
Great album reco Frank! Streaming it off Qobuz right now and it sounds like it was recorded yesterday.
History makes it clear that people who try new things, pursuing their vision, paying no attention to those who say it can’t possibly work, are the ones who truly move things forward. Those who only criticize and ridicule what they have no actual experience with, are left behind, wondering what happened. Failure has many explanations, success doesn’t need one.
I didn’t claim that Tesla had a lot of failures I claimed a lot of hypotheses he had were plain wrong. He was a smart tinkerer but was often also eminently arrogant and that impacted his ability to learn. He looked down on his contemporaries like Einstein with contempt. While we appreciate the things that Tesla brought to the world like 3 phase power and AC induction motors his knowledge and understanding of fundamental physics was limited and he appeared to make no attempt to change that and looked down on those that did like Einstein.
I knew it, uber! You were swayed into thinking there were frozen chunks in your orange juice this morning! I cannot believe you thought they actually existed....
I never called anyone a liar. I have no doubt you believe what you say. However if you want the things you say related to audio to be taken seriously you may want to understand the things you claim unrelated to audio don't jive with basic laws of physics and hence put in question everything you claim about anything. It shows you are easily swayed and not objective.
I'm an old guy, but still sharp as a tack. The problem is, I can't always remember where I left the tack. Please refresh my memory. Do you have any PPT products in your system at this point?
It took Marconi ten long years to achieve trans-oceanic radio communications. Mostly because he wrongly used RF wavelengths that were too long. Hey, that’s the way it goes sometimes.
I just ordered a 2 pack of the new mat plus version. Most of you are placing these in or on the fuse box? Very excited to try this new version out. RIP Tim
Here's a series of videos on Tesla. Interesting man, indeed. It has been said that Edison tried five-thousand different experiments before he got the electric lightbulb to work. So, your claim that Tesla had a lot of failures wouldn't surprise me at all.
However, my point was that I read many praises, many wishes to help the widow, many warm words about the late inventor, many claims of wonderful uses for products, but nothing that anyone has actually done, or planned to do, to support those wishes and claims.
Please stay. I would like to put you into the same camp as Slaw and Carpathian, two guys who thought I was a total nut-case. Not that I blame them, of course. *lol*
I'm glad you're enjoying the jazz artists I've recommended. Jazz is a very interesting thing. A friend of mine put it very well. He said that with classical music, the artist tries to play what the composer intended, to the point of perfection. With jazz, you'll be following it along with the music when the musician will make a little excursion off of the beaten path surprising you, and the reaction is ... hey, that was cool, I wasn't expecting him to do that. In other words, the jazz musician/composer plays with your mind a bit. So much of the music is between the notes, and the musician lets you fill it in, in your mind. Miles was great at that. So was Bill Evans. All of the greats were actually.
And talking about jazz, I threw this one on last night. With the new Omega "Plus" E-mats and the Orange fuses in the system, it was absolutely fantastic both in SQ and performance. Highly recommended.
Atdavid. Why are you still posting? Like the look of your own posts? Need some cheese with that whine? You have called myself and other members liars but don't have the nads to step up and try the mats yourself.
Your opinions are worthless IMHO. Have a good day sir.
May I suggest getting your fridge serviced? You seen to have a thermostat issue.
This is not the 1500s, so the church analog was not a good one, but given the many things Tesla believed that were false, that is more appropriate.
Power usage of devices can be measured to about 0.1% inexpensively. If this did save power it could be proved easily.
It may surprise you that the electrical aspects of almost everything in your home are quite efficient. The losses are mainly non electrical. 30% losses on the electrical side does not even exist.
Actually, normal refrigerator temperatures are not much higher than 32 degrees F so if the system suddenly gets a new lease on life and runs just a little more more efficiently, things in the refrigerator can indeed freeze. But I suspect it comes down to what a lot of people have reported, that temperatures ARE lower inside the refrigerator AND energy costs are lowered. So, without be too smug about it, I’d opine my explanation is most likely correct. 🤗
Geoff, your post makes 0 sense and what may sound logical to some has no factual logic behind it.
The thermostat turns off when the temperature get to X usually about 3C or 37F. Doesn't matter how efficient your system is, that is when it turns off.
Cooling capacity is governed by compressor speed which is either fixed to AC frequency if AC motor or fixed to electronics if DC. Electrical efficiency does not impact cooling capacity only energy usage.
Residual cooling after motor is turned off is defined by coolant, not electrical. Time constant, i.e. how fast fridge cools is quite slow so residual cold is fairly low.
This product will not cause things to freeze in your fridge.
Things that cause freezing are lowered outside air temps which can cause thermostat inaccuracy (only in one spot) and not opening the door for long periods which can cause temp differentials due to lack of air flow from infrequent turn ons, cool air movement from freezer, and minor amplification of residual cool.
Strange things seem really strange to the uninitiated. Research the Catholic Church regarding Galileo.
I've had to adjust the thermostat for the refrigerator a number of times since being introduced to the PPT products a few years ago.
Most recently, after placing the two new Omega "Plus" mats into the circuit breaker box, the cream cheese I keep in the vegetable box froze, as did an onion. Ever tried slicing a frozen onion? It is akin to slicing a billiard ball, only a lot more slippery.
Indeed, one of Tim's dreams was to install his creations into large industrial panels so that the electric bill of commercial enterprises would be reduced, saving millions in energy costs, and to also help the environment.
He talked in terms of hospital operating rooms and the lighting there. He talked in terms of savings in costs from running huge air conditioning units in hotels, hospitals, and industrial buildings. He talked in terms of saving the world. He kind of reminded me, albeit, on a reduced scale, of Nicola Tesla.
I got four of the original E mats with two on the panel door and one in each power conditioner I have. They’ve been great but would love to find out how the new mat exceeds the old. I did see a drop in my electric bill about a month after installing the second mat and this was in the summer here in AZ. Could have been something else I suppose but I ain’t complaining especially since the music and tv sound and look so good.
@oregonpapa. I just got another orange fuse in the system system in my dac. The first was for my Dodd preamp that I had the stock fuse pasted with TC and when the orange went in things took a step down but after a week and a half the soundstage really opened up and it was awesome. Funny now because my dac had a blue and instantly once the orange was in I liked it better.
Keep bringing up jazz artists you like. I’ve never in my life listened to more jazz than this past year and am always looking out for new to me bands and musicians. I really have taken a liking to Latin and particularly Brazilian jazz but enjoy various genres. Happy listening!
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