Need advice on new speakers


Hey Folks
I need some advice on buying a new pair of speakers. I have a pair of Linn Katans with a Mcintosh MC225 amp and Mcintosh MX110 preamp. I play jazz and rock and some classical on vinyl. I like the bright sound of the Katans.. I tried the vintage Altec speakers were ok but not good soundstage or good high frequency. I think Klipsch sound like crap.
I have looked into Tannoy both the new reissue of Arden or the vintage Red monitor in 15". Also thought of Sonus Faber and Linn Majic 140. Unfortunately I am in NC we have no Linn or Tannoy dealer where I can listen to these speakers. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Thanks

wimpydaschund
I love my B&W 804D3s. Some call them "bright". I call them very "present". They fall short of full-range but a quality 12 inch sub fixes them right up. If you have the means, the 800D3 should please for decades.
Check out the JBL 4319 Monitors. I paid $4K for them a year and a half ago and you can get them now for $2.5K, brand new. They excel at rock, jazz, classical, electronic and anything you care to throw at them. 

They were pushed aside by the JBL L100 Classic reissue which everyone is loving right now and maybe they're as good, but with the Mag/Al mid range and tweeter on the 4319 compared to the pulp mid range and titanium tweeter on the L100, I'd wager that the 4319 has enough reach and see through in the mids and highs to pass on the L100s and save $1.5K in the process.
https://www.musicdirect.com/speakers/JBL-4319-Bookshelf-Speakers

These are not flavor of the month speakers but a design that's stood the test of time and bring nothing but musical enjoyment to my ears.

All the best,
Nonoise
@wimpydaschund,
I own the new Tannoy Legacy Arden powered by a Pass Labs XA30.5 and a McIntosh C2300 preamp. Let me know if I can help with any specific questions on them. I've copied a review I wrote over on AK below with my thoughts.
Speakers I’ve owned recently include a restored pair of KEF 107s and the Spatial Audio M3. I also have a pair of Onix Strata Mini’s in my semi-vintage home office system.

I sort of lucked into a pair of the Legacy Arden back in October and to be honest, they weren’t on my radar up to that point. I was about to sell my Spatial Audio M3 (Turbo S) for the new Spatial X5 which feature a pair of 12” powered sub drivers. I loved the M3’s sound and open baffle design, but my room is so hard to get decent bass response out of. The listening area is only 14’x 17’ (in a 14’x 40’ main room) but has a max ceiling height of 18’ and open on one side to the entire rest of the house (including a second floor). In order to support the M3s, I employed a pair of 15” sealed subs and an SVS AS-EQ1 sub equalizer.

One thing that interested me in the Arden design is the 15” dual concentric design and its trio of front mounted ports. Since my set up is on the long wall of my room, I have plenty of width for a large, wide, speaker that is not too deep. Most of the modern “living room friendly” designs are narrow with a lot of depth…not to mention rear ported.

I have the Arden’s placed with their backs about 18” off the front wall and toed in so the axis crosses about 3’ in front of my head. This yields the best sound stage. I’ve experimented with them in many positions including flush to the wall and pointing straight ahead. This placement yields more bass, at the expense of sound stage in the sweet spot. The speakers are about 11’ apart and 11’ from my listening position.

The overall sound of the Arden in my system is best described as coherent and “full”. There is a weighty sound throughout the mid bass, and lower bass that has rendered my dual subs obsolete. I’ve since sold off the subs and EQ which helped justify the cost of the Arden’s. I was a little concerned about the ability for a 1” tweeter to blend well with a 15” woofer, but my concerns were unwarranted. The sound throughout the frequency range is sublime.

One of the professional reviews I’ve read on this Arden describes the overall sound to be on the warm side of neutral. I would agree with this assessment, but would add it’s more forward than laid back, which is how I would describe the KEF 107. The Arden does not present a hyper-detailed , clinical sound. It is definitely on the lush side of the spectrum, but do not take this to mean the sound is mushy, instead, think of it as scale. There is a thrust and weight in the room that I’ve not experienced with any other speaker. There is no listener fatigue after long listening sessions. The danger in that is that I find myself sitting for longer periods than is healthy, so it’s self-loathing, rather than listener fatigue that forces me to grab my mountain bike and get out of the house.

Tune-ability.
Between the ported vents (which can be plugged), and the adjustable treble energy and roll off crossover, the Arden offers a lot of flexibility depending on your system’s front end. I experimented with both and have settled on no port plugs and tweeter adjustments at level.

One caution I would provide prospective buyers of the Arden is to closely consider the other gear in their system to ensure synergy. All of my listening is some combination of digital (CD, SACD, streaming). All are run through a Musical Paradise MP-D2 Mk2 tube DAC, a McIntosh C2300 (tube hybrid) pre amp, and either a Pass Labs XA30.5 (solid state) or VTA ST-70 (KT-66 tubes) amps. I can easily tune the overall sound with tube swaps in the DAC, and to a lesser extent the C2300. Both amps, at 30 and 35 watts respectively, drive the Arden with ease. The Pass provides a higher damping factor that result in more defined edges in the lower frequencies, where the ST-70 provides a slightly finer grain sound in the mid and upper frequencies (smoother if you will). Both are staying in the system, and I swap them frequently depending on my mood. If forced to choose, I’d keep the Pass, and will say I believe SS amps make for a safer pairing with the Arden. YMMV.

If I imagine a worst case scenario front end for the Arden’s it would be a vintage Dynaco ST-70 running EL34 tubes, an older Conrad Johnson tube pre, and a vinyl rig. I feel this combination would be like adding too much salt to a properly cooked meal. I feel Arden’s benefit from a little extra detail from upstream components. For tube guys, think more NOS Telefunkens and less NOS Mullards.

Nothing in life is perfect, and neither is this Tannoy. For the price, I would expect a wood finish that rises to the level of cost. They are beautifully constructed and (book match) veneered, but essentially come “ready to finish”. They provide a tin of wax, but it is not a suitable finish for long term protection. I tossed the wax and applied 4 coats of Watco Danish Oil. I suppose the upside is one gets to pick the final color and sheen. Heck, you could stain these in a JBL L100 orange stain if you wanted.

Both the spikes and feet provided are pretty basic and not befitting the price. That they’re constructed in Scotland, and not China is likely the main justification for the cost. I ended up making my own feet with threaded studs and hockey pucks (don’t laugh, they work). If Tannoy is going to cut corners, I’m glad they chose inconsequential, non-sonic areas like supplied footing and expensive finishes.

On WAF.
My wife has either said nothing, or downright criticized the speakers that have come through our home over the years. This was partially due to the fact I was teaming them with the aforementioned subs. “I hate all those boxes in the room”. I thought for sure she would hate the bulky looking Arden in person. I was smart enough to show her photos of beforehand. When I removed the M3s, subs, and put the Arden’s in place she walks in and says “These look nice, they look like furniture.” I was shocked. As they say… happy wife, happy life.

If you have any specific questions that I can help with, fire away.

Thanks for info am mostly curious about Tannoys the Tannoy guy post pretty detailed what do you think of the Cheviot although almost as much as Arden
My amp has vintage Fisher tubes 
Thanks