Need a heavy duty receptacle

Very useful information here. Never really thought about supporting the heavy cables from stressing the components or the isolation platforms. I'll get to work on this. Thanks guys.

Zip ties are an Audiophiles best friend. :)

I hear you, Albert. I also use zip ties on nearly everything. The back of my power conditioner looks like this.

All work and no play...

Bryon

Supporting or suspending the cable is especially important if the
component is mounted on certain types of vibration isolation devices as the
cable shouldn't be allowed to exert a force in any direction as that would
interfere with the balance and proper operation of the Isolating device. In
some cases, suspending the cable from the ceiling is a viable method and
kills two birds with one stone.

I too use tie wraps to support cables but I use them on everything. RCA, XLR, AC cables and anything else that might cause stress on the device it's plugged into.

I know I'm not the only audiofool around who uses some kind of device to suspend cables off the floor, and I'm surprised no one has mentioned them. My cable lifters are plastic-conduit couplers. The smaller ones are c. 2-9/16" high by 2-5/8" diameter; the larger ones are 3-1/2" h. by 3-1/4" d. Seems to me they were just under $1 and less than $2 at Lowe's. Painted them sand color.

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k220/jeffreybehr/Room/12Sep2012_frontfloorcable_1200h.jpg

My powercables NEVER creep out of my duplex outlets.
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Mark - I feel your pain. I've had my own struggles with heavy power cords that don't want to stay plugged in. I've used 4 different fancy outlets. IME...

-PS Audio: Death Grip
-Shunyata: Loose Grip
-Maestro: Moderate Grip
-Synergistic Research: Death Grip

Of these outlets, the Maestro sounded the best in my system, in spite of the fact that it doesn't have the strongest grip. So I resorted to extreme measures, which you can see here and here.

I removed the outlet cover and used heavy duty zip ties (white) to secure the Nema (male) ends of the power cords to each of the outlet receptacles. The circumferences were the same, so I got lucky there. Then I used an L bracket with light duty zip ties (black) to provide more cable relief.

I don't even want to know how many codes I'm violating.

Bryon

Apology accepted.

'What does that comment accomplish?'

Not a thing. Other than to reflect on my judgement.

To Markpao.
I apologize to you, Markpao, and all the other posters for the silly, untrue and stupid comment.

09-23-12: Rok2id
'What AC wall receptacle are you using to plug your heavy AC power cords in. My power cords keep backing out from the weight. '

serves you right.
Rok2id (Threads | Answers | This Thread)

What does that comment accomplish?

'What AC wall receptacle are you using to plug your heavy AC power cords in. My power cords keep backing out from the weight. '

serves you right.

Oyaide R1 Beryllium receptacles have a death grip. I have to pull hard to get my various power cords out of the one I have.

There are two obvious options here, one already cited above. You can do both of them if you are willing to change the plug on the end of the cord and the receptacle in the wall. Right angle plugs can be installed, so that the weight of the cord is directly down. This works well in most scenarios, but, in a high vibration environment, like an audio listening room, twist-lock plugs work very well. The best solution is to replace the receptacle with a twist-lock receptacle, and replace the plug at the end of the cord with a right angle twist-lock plug.

Caution: One thing that can go wrong when using twist-locks, assuming you install them right, is that you can't jerk the plug out of the wall if your equipment starts to go up in smoke.

I use MIT outlets. Sound much better than the hospital grade ones I was using.
Joe Nies

Hi Markpao

For the sagging of the power cord on the female end at the component. The way I handled it was I wrapped some electrical tape around the female end before plugging it in. That in addition to propping up the cables really helped with the strain and stopped the plug from slipping out. Another guy I spoke to took a business card and inserted it along with the power cord into the component female end. We both had same $40 cables so we didn't feel weird using such tricks to stop the slipping.

If you are ever into making your own cables I found SonarQuest power plugs grip like nothing else I've seen. Although I haven't used any power cord thicker than 10 AWG in there.

"Hubbell manufactures exactly what you describe"

As I mentioned in my post above, I am aware of those twist lock ends.

I guess where I'm going with this is why don't these makers of big, heavy, stiff power cords make another way to plug em in and not droop. Why should one have to "prop it up" or whatever other means to stay connected?

I remember a stiff DCCA cord I had once moved by accident and broke the ground pin off. Cost me $50 to have the pin replaced plus shipping both ways. Some of these are just too much power cord for the (conventional) ends they put on them.

I'll bet if some power cord manufacturer came up with a high end twist lock with matching outlets they would get some attention. Not sure how they would address the female end at the component though.

Hubbell manufactures exactly what you describe, and since it's already UL approved the expense of having it certified is already taken care of.

I use the cryo version in my own system to accommodate 240 Volt for Euro gear. It's a great sounding combo and works with 125V and 240V up to 30 amp.

Here's the male at Amazon rather than the Porter Port version. Hubbell twist lock

While we're on the topic of droopy power cords, I would also mention that some of my power cords also sag down a bit on the female end in my component sockets as well. In particular my VooDoo Silver Dragon.
I'll bet if some power cord manufacturer came up with a high end twist lock with matching outlets they would get some attention. Not sure how they would address the female end at the component though.
Hey, wait a minute, my wife works at an attorneys patent office. I wonder..........

Yeah, I tried that way first. Then turned it around after I saw it backed out just the same. I think now after spending more time with this, that the problem is more to the fact that the power cords are so stiff, than the actual weight of them. Like I mentioned, I have them molded so the floor actually supports them and keeps them fully plugged in now.
Thanks for all your help.

Porter Ports are installed, but have to report that they don't hold the power cords any better than the outlets I replaced.
07-23-12: Markpao

Markpao,

Just curious.... Did you install the receptacles with the equipment ground up?
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Hey Markpao

I can't find the thread but there was an A'gon member here who used fishing line to help support his beefier power cords. Another gent I met used really thick pipe insulation to help support his power cords so they wouldn't slip from the receptacle. He measured the distance from the floor to the outlet cords, cut the pipe insulation and put it right under to prop it up. Since the outlets were behind his gear no one could see the propped up cords.

I'm curious too about 3 or 4 prong power cords and the special receptacles they require. I see this kind of cord and outlet with servers and dryers. Since there is a market for these big and beefy power cords in the audio community why it hasn't been attempted to use these types of locking receptacles etc etc.

Yes. I love amplifiers and vintage gear so mono-blocks and bi-amping leaves me with a load of power cords that can be tweaked. They tend to be spendy purchased so I make them with off the shelf parts. These guys take it a bit farther than I do but what the hay? http://www.carveraudio.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=11564&start=0
Same electric supply should have "safety cable" that will hold plugs into outlets. I have seen theses in pro audio applications.

Porter Ports are installed, but have to report that they don't hold the power cords any better than the outlets I replaced. I did manage to "form" the power cords (they are stiff!) so that they are resting on the floor, which now picks up most of the weight of them. It'll work unless someone hits one with the vacuum.
Don't get me wrong, the Porter Ports are far superior in quality than the cheap outlets I replaced, and I probably would have replaced them anyway.

Jonoulman,
I'm aware of the twist lock plugs and outlets in the electrical supply stores. I would imagine you had to make a DIY power cord?

There are "twist lock" outlets and plugs ranging from 15amps on up to 240v 60amp for appliances. A good electrical supply will carry a selection. I used 3-20amp "twist locks" to power my rack of gear. I have them floor mounted, It weighs about 400lbs and doesn't get moved often, but I sure don't want them coming out without my knowing . . .

When is somebody going to come up with a "twist lock" power cord and receptacle for us crazy audio people. You know like they use for pools.

Interesting mention about installing the outlet with the ground up. Curious about how that "holds" better?

With the ground facing up there is a greater mechanical downward motion resistance of the ground pin of the male plug than there is with the ground facing down.

Mechanically the ground pin resists downward pressure from the weight of the PC more than it will with the ground facing down.

In the case of a straight out pulling motion, tension pressure resistance, there is no difference.
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Get one of those 3" angle type "L" brackets.
Mount it above your outlet to the stud. Then attach a cable tie to your power cord from the "L" bracket.

Thanks for your suggestions. I did just order 2 of the Porter Ports from Albert.
Still not sure I want to part with the Solist so I'm holding off on that one. Besides, the Soloist is behind my audio rack and basically undisturbed except for when I might change cabling around. Still annoying to me that it doesn't take much at all for the PC to back out. The 2 I'm replacing now are right in the path of that dreaded vacuum and the PC's are so stiff that any slight movement will cause the PC to back out.

Jea48,
Interesting mention about installing the outlet with the ground up. Curious about how that "holds" better?

Porter Ports.

Hubbell duplex receptacle. See page 6

For extra holding power install the duplex receptacle with the equipment ground up ^ .....
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I like the Jenna Labs cyroed outlet.

I also recommend the Porter Ports. Excellent for the money!

Jedinite24,
I have 2 Custom Power Cord Company model Eleven's for my subs. Believe it or not the bigger problem is my Silver Circle Vesuvious plugged into a PS Audio Soloist wall outlet for all my other components. The Vesuvious is lighter and smaller, but backs out of the outlet easier. Hate to ditch the Soloist, but don't know what else to do.

Hi Markpao

What power cords are you using where their bulk is causing it to back out of the receptacles you have?

I use the Porter Ports both old and new in my system and they firmly grip the 12AWG power cords I have.

The PS Audio Decora Style receptacle has held some of the 12AWG power cords I have too.

Most,not all, hospital grade receptacles provide a tight grip, that's what they're designed to do. If you want to get a bit more performance, give Porter Ports a try.