My Long List of Amplifiers and My Personal Review of Each!
So I have been in a long journey looking to find the best amplifiers for my martin logan montis. As you know, the match between an amplifier and speakers has to be a good "marriage" and needs to be blend exquisitely. Right now, I think I might have found the best sounding amplifier for martin logan. I have gone through approximately 34-36 amplifiers in the past 12 months. Some of these are:
Bryston ST, SST, SST2 series NAD M25 PARASOUND HALO PARASOUND CLASSIC KRELL TAS KRELL KAV 500 KRELL CHORUS ROTEL RMB 1095 CLASSE CT 5300 CLASSE CA 2200 CLASSE CA 5200 MCINTOSH MC 205 CARY AUDIO CINEMA 7 OUTLAW AUDIO 755 LEXICON RX7 PASS LABS XA 30.8 BUTLER AUDIO 5150 ATI SIGNATURE SERIES 6005
With all that said, the amplifiers I mentioned above are the ones that in my opinion are worth mentioning. To make a long story short, there is NO 5 CHANNEL POWER AMP that sounds as good as a 3ch and 2ch amplifier combination. i have done both experiments and the truth is that YOU DO lose details and more channel separation,etc when you select a 5 channel power amplifier of any manufacturer. My recollection of what each amp sounded like is as follows:
ATI SIGNATURE SERIES 6005 (great power and amazing soundstage. Very low noise floor, BUT this amplifiers NEEDS TO BE cranked up in order to fully enjoy it. If you like listening at low volume levels or somewhat moderate, you are wasting your time here. This amp won’t sound any different than many other brands out there at this volume. The bass is great, good highs although they are a bit bright for my taste)
NAD M25 (very smooth, powerful, but somewhat thin sounding as far as bass goes) Bryston sst2(detailed, good soundstage, good power, but can be a little forward with certain speakers which could make them ear fatiguing at loud volumes)
Krell (fast sounding, nice bass attack, nice highs, but some detail does get lost with certain speakers)
rotel (good amp for the money, but too bright in my opinion)
cary audio (good sound overall, very musical, but it didn’t have enough oomph)
parasound halo (good detail, great bass, but it still holds back some background detail that i can hear in others)
lexicon (very laid back and smooth. huge power, but if you like more detail or crisper highs, this amp will disappoint you)
McIntosh mc205 (probably the worst multichannel amp given its price point. it was too thin sounding, had detail but lacked bass.
butler audio (good amplifier. very warm and smooth sweet sounding. i think for the money, this is a better amp than the parasound a51)
pass labs (very VERY musical with excellent bass control. You can listen to this for hours and hours without getting ear fatigue. however, it DOES NOT do well in home theater applications if all you have is a 2 channel set up for movies. The midrange gets somewhat "muddy" or very weak sounding that you find yourself trying to turn it up.
classe audio (best amplifier for multi channel applications. i simply COULDNT FIND a better multi channel amplifier PERIOD. IT has amazing smoothness, amazing power and good bass control although i would say krell has much better bass control)
Update: The reviews above were done in January 2015. Below is my newest update as of October 2016:
PS AUDIO BHK 300 MONOBLOCKS: Amazing amps. Tons of detail and really amazing midrange. the bass is amazing too, but the one thing i will say is that those of you with speakers efficiency of 87db and below you will not have all the "loudness" that you may want from time to time. These amps go into protection mode when using a speaker such as the Salon, but only at very loud levels. Maybe 97db and above. If you don’t listen to extreme crazy levels, these amps will please you in every way.
Plinius Odeon 7 channel amp: This is THE BEST multichannel amp i have ever owned. Far , but FAR SUPERIOR to any other multichannel amp i have owned. In my opinion it destroyed all of the multichannel amps i mentioned above and below. The Odeon is an amp that is in a different tier group and it is in a league of its own. Amazing bass, treble and it made my center channel sound more articulate than ever before. The voices where never scrambled with the action scenes. It just separated everything very nicely.
Theta Dreadnaught D: Good detailed amp. Looks very elegant, has a pleasant sound, but i found it a tad too bright for my taste. I thought it was also somewhat "thin" sounding lacking body to the music. could be that it is because it is class d?
Krell Duo 300: Good amp. Nice and detailed with enough power to handle most speakers out there. I found that it does have a very nice "3d" sound through my electrostatics. Nothing to fault here on this amp. Mark Levinson 532H: Great 2 channel amp. Lots of detail, amazing midrange which is what Mark Levinson is known for. It sounds very holographic and will please those of you looking for more detail and a better midrange. As far as bass, it is there, but it is not going to give you the slam of a pass labs 350.5 or JC1s for example. It is great for those that appreciate classical music, instrumental, etc, but not those of you who love tons of deep bass.
It is articulate sounding too Krell 7200: Plenty of detail and enough power for most people. i found that my rear speakers contained more information after installed this amp. One thing that i hated is that you must use xlr cables with this amp or else you lose most of its sound performance when using RCA’s.
Krell 402e: Great amp. Very powerful and will handle any speaker you wish. Power is incredible and with great detail. That said, i didn’t get all the bass that most reviewers mentioned. I thought it was "ok" in regards to bass. It was there, but it didn’t slam me to my listening chair.
Bryston 4B3: Good amp with a complete sound. I think this amp is more laid back than the SST2 version. I think those of you who found the SST2 version of this amp a little too forward with your speakers will definitely benefit from this amp’s warmth. Bryston has gone towards the "warm" side in my opinion with their new SST3 series. As always, they are built like tanks. I wouldn’t call this amp tube-like, but rather closer to what the classe audio delta 2 series sound like which is on the warm side of things.
Parasound JC1s: Good powerful amps. Amazing low end punch (far superior bass than the 402e). This amp is the amp that i consider complete from top to bottom in regards to sound. Nothing is lacking other than perhaps a nicer chassis. Parasound needs to rework their external appearance when they introduce new amps. This amp would sell much more if it had a revised external appearance because the sound is a great bang for the money. It made my 800 Nautilus scream and slam. Again, amazing low end punch.
Simaudio W7: Good detailed amp. This amp reminds me a lot of the Mark Levinson 532h. Great detail and very articulate. I think this amp will go well with bookshelves that are ported in order to compensate for what it lacks when it comes to the bass. That doesn’t mean it has no bass, but when it is no Parasound JC1 either. Pass labs 350.5: Wow, where do i begin? maybe my first time around with the xa30.8 wasn’t as special as it was with this monster 350.5. It is just SPECTACULAR sounding with my electrostatics. The bass was THE BEST BASS i have ever heard from ANY amp period. The only amp that comes close would be the jC1s. It made me check my settings to make sure the bass was not boosted and kept making my jaw drop each time i heard it. It totally destroyed the krell 402e in every regard. The krell sounded too "flat" when compared to this amp. This amp had amazing mirange with great detail up top. In my opinion, this amp is the best bang for the money. i loved this amp so much that i ended up buying the amp that follows below.
Pass labs 250.8: What can i say here. This is THE BEST STEREO AMP i have ever heard. This amp destroys all the amps i have listed above today to include the pass labs 350.5. It is a refined 350.5 amp. It has more 3d sound which is something the 350.5 lacked. It has a level of detail that i really have never experienced before and the bass was amazing as well. I really thought it was the most complete power amplifier i have ever heard HANDS DOWN. To me, this is a benchmark of an amplifier. This is the amp that others should be judged by. NOTHING is lacking and right now it is the #1 amplifier that i have ever owned.
My current amps are Mcintosh MC601s: i decided to give these 601s a try and they don’t disappoint. They have great detail, HUGE soundstage, MASSIVE power and great midrange/highs. The bass is great, but it is no pass labs 250.8 or 350.5. As far as looks, these are the best looking amps i have ever owned. No contest there. i gotta be honest with you all, i never bought mcintosh monos before because i wasn’t really "wowed" by the mc452, but it could have been also because at that time i was using a processor as a preamp which i no longer do. Today, i own the Mcintosh C1100 2 chassis tube preamp which sounds unbelievable. All the amps i just described above have been amps that i auditioned with the C1100 as a preamp. The MC601s sound great without a doubt, but i will say that if you are looking for THE BEST sound for the money, these would not be it. However, Mcintosh remains UNMATCHED when it comes to looks and also resale value. Every other amp above depreciates much faster than Mcintosh.
That said, my future purchase (when i can find a steal of a deal) will be the Pass labs 350.8. I am tempted to make a preliminary statement which is that i feel this amp could be THE BEST stereo amp under 30k dollars. Again, i will be able to say more and confirm once i own it. I hope this update can help you all in your buying decisions!
He said it, as of now he is stuck with most of the gear he has in hand. It does seem like it became more emotional than rational lately. He used to get things that were an easy resale value, that could go in and out with high demand, not anymore... Most of his last moves are trades, each time acquiring heavier and costlier pieces that are ( in these time where money is loosing value as they are printing it like crazy...) gradually becoming somewhat anchors... Pretty risky moves, during pretty risky times...
We know him, he is just too autocratic and stubborn to let the Mephisto go. He will lipstick that pig like crazy...( expensive cable swaps, preamp swaps, speaker swaps, name it ) Believe me he will try everything before admitting it was a pretty bad move...
Techno, sounds like you’ve predetermined the results. Maybe he can just ask you for the results before hand so he dosnt even need to buy anything at all. Seems like that would save a whole lot of time and effort all around.
I agree with getting read of as much as possible and grabbing the boulders. A guy I was talking to has the 3060 and Sonja XV and hes compared it to other top amps (Dag relentless, momentum, gryphon mephisto, Audio research). He said the 3060 is simply superior. He likes a neutral transparent sound though. Nothing euphonic/organic.
I heard boulder 3050 monos with alexx and I wasn't impressed. Too dry, dull, nothing that made me breath the music in. Maybe im used to nordost cables.
i think techno is being quite unpleasant and should cool it. leave WC alone man!
WC i just listened to the latest Mephisto video. i left a comment and it mirrors what you've said in here. the video shows the extraordinary promise of that amplifier. it would be nice to have a recording of it playing one of the songs from Aug 22nd Merill / ref 6 outing. i think one can already hear a "thickening" relative to beautiful Merrill setup.
Mephisto needs no help with bass. It needs cables that actually do the bass just right. The potential Is there in spades. I smell it. Today you will hear the mephisto with the momentum HD preamp but I switched some powercords around. Watch and see...
I will eventually try the boulder 2160 and the antileon evo. Those are going to happen but that is very distant. I don’t see them coming anytime soon. Can I please play with my mephisto? Lol. Guys, let’s do this together. I want to learn this mephisto. If I were to describe a mephisto, I’d call it a WILD CHILD that needs to be tamed down. THAT IS THE BEST WAY to describe it. It is one of those huge bulls that only qualifed bull riders can ride because if you can’t hang on tightly, it will throw your a$$ off of it and stump on you. it is not the amp for thin skinned people or "soft " personalities. It is that amp that you need to connect with and let it talk to you. WAY DIFFERENT animal. I now realized that before I was riding ponies in terms of behavior. This amp ain't having none of that. If you have kids , this is the kid that loves to contradict you, not listen, jumps off the couch and on top of your bed or gets in fights in school. Patience is key here.
WC, Also, move the JC1+ which is not in the same league as anything else you have. Keep the Maggie which is your reference for clarity which comes from low mass drivers. Imagine how the Maggie will dazzle you when the Mephisto is fully broken in.
I liked the latest video. The midrange and HF percussion have excellent clarity and sparkle. I hate the muddy artificial bass which I believe is the fault of the recordings and not the Mephisto. The voice is neutral and focused. Without hearing the A/B of the Mephisto and Merrill, these are my impressions, but you know better because you are hearing it directly.
Just a wild guess, but I believe your jitters is merely a case of the Mephisto needing more break in. Why don't you just put your best Nordost and AQ Dragon cables in there, and let the Mephisto break in? You will be confused if you try other things, and then you won't be able to judge the effects of those things vs the effect of just letting the M break in. My guess is that the Mephisto is a very detailed amp, which may sound dry before adequate break in, especially with Nordost. Once all the detail and neutrality comes through with Nordost and Mephisto, you may be dazzled by the sound, but still yearn for some euphonic warmth. The detail and increased musical information will grow on you, provided you don't bleed your ears by blasting. Even I went through a brief euphonic tube phase many decades ago, and at first I was uncomfortable with the drier SS sound, but the improving SS taught me that I should live with it and learn from it. Then there was no going back to warm sound because a lot of the music was buried in the warmth.
Smodtactical makes sense with the guy he talked to. Boulder is known for neutrality, and their latest series is far superior to the previous line, according to Rich Maez, the marketing man of Boulder. Maez may be biased, but I would make Boulder your next amp to try. Jump on it, they don't come up often. Like the Mephisto, Boulder will probably require lots of break in time. Don't waste time with the Antileon Evo, which 1-2 people said is euphonic compared to the Mephisto.
Gryphon doesnt sell Mephisto...that amp doesnt sell well , that amp is must probably flawed to begin with as we can see with WC latest experience fighting the beast.
Tweak the damned system all you want, it will not change the fact that amp is a bad buy. It should not be like that at those prices...
You think boulder is any different lol. You think boulder is easy to deal with?? I THINK I owned one boulder already...I would know....these are amps not meant for the cry babies. This is next level SH!t. It is for those that pay attention. You think a mephisto or boulder would work with a lamp cord as a power cord ? Or the cables you own in your system? They are messengers... Don't be pissed at the messenger for the letter you got in the mail. It isn't his fault. It is telling you what the rest of your front end is doing.
Sorry, but when you have to tweak the system abusively to make the amp sound good... It should all be fine with the top of the line Audioquest Or Nordost you already own. If it is not, and somehow you keep thinking you have to find or use a very specific pc to tame it...then it is simply a psychological mistake or huge expensive buy denial syndrome...
You are wasting your breath with this guy....I have never owned an amp that I just plugged into my system that didn't need some kind of tuning of the system to get the most out of it. Whether it was power cords, IC's. SC's, preamp and even speakers and subs. At the Mephisto's level it's going to take way more time and testing...obviously.
This is a false assumption IMHO. The type of tweaking necessary to get the best out of a component has nothing to do with its price. If you want to extract every single drop of juice out of the lemon then it's irrelevant if the amp is 2K$ or 20K$. System matching and synergy is key for both cases and potentially lots of tweaking maybe required. Of course, if the goal is just to add/replace a component in the system and be done if that sounds "good" then fine. But raising the bar and trying to get the best combination for a given budget is not reserved to the stratospheric systems, assuming the rest of the gear is on par of course. I don't know why it would be different for the Mephisto. Some components out there are a bit more difficult to integrate into a system but from my experience it has nothing to do with the price of those units.
I'm a little confused on that point too. Not sure why WC wants to go back to the Boulder, when the first experience with Boulder was not great. Perhaps he has a reason which he has not yet divulged? Dave
I understand your point, however I never mentioned price of a component. I said "At the Mephisto's level", meaning the level of clarity, resolution, definition etc.... The more information the amp delivers to the speakers the more one would need to carefully match components, cables and speakers. In my experience an amp that produces less clarity, resolution and definition is easier to integrate into a system....it would still need to be tweaked but I don't think it would require the time and patience that a highly resolving amp would....YMMV
The OP has owned hundreds of amps but to my knowledge none have been as revealing as the Mephisto....thus making it more of a challenge to create system synergy.....according to the OP. Of the 4 or so years the OP has been reviewing amps (at all price points) I believe the Mephisto has been the most challenging...so far.
Hi Ron, yep you nailed it. I have not met an amp as revealing as this amp. This is why i am packing 5 boxes as we speak since they need to make it to fed ex today. Two preamps out of my 3 preamps have been sacrificed. i will leave it at that. As far as boulder, i heard that their new stuff is nothing like their new models. I am curious about it, and i am not opposed to bringing their new stuff here to see how they are voicing it now. That said, i am not really focused on that, but rather on the Mephisto right now. If Boulder does happen, it will, but i am not chasing it. If it is meant to be, it will come and i will be ready for it. By the way, i have a video scheduled to be released on youtube for today at 5pm EST of the momentum hd preamp and the mephisto so that you all can compare against yesterday’s video. Lastly, could i be nearing the end of my Odin 1 run? let me just leave it at that ! ha !
@whitecamaross - WC why don't you try the same gyphon's matching pre-amp to eliminate any guess work or unknown variables. remember you yourself said this when testing luxman how c900u and m900u have best synergy and you cannot spend any amount of money to better/best that. - also break in of amp and cables combo will only have an incremental effect and i doubt if things are going to change night and day there so matching gryphon premap might be your best bet and probability. - it would be too soon for you to think about boulder at this point.boulder owners and dealers who carry both boulder and simaudio describe it as muscular, dynamic and dry, similar to simaudio
@ron17 Thank you for the precision. You're right you did not mention price. I thought your comment implied that aspect. It's just that I've experienced in many cases in my own system and in my friend's systems this situation where dropping a more expensive component was almost plug and play (kind of) and trying to integrate components say 50% less expensive prove to be very difficult due to the lack of synergy. In some cases it did not fly at all and the new component was sold. It also depends on your expectations and like you said YMMV.
It ´s the ultra expensive retoric or gammic....If it does not satisfy, they find excuses...
....oh it must be the synergy.....oh it must be the cables....oh it must be because it is much more revealing...oh it must be the preamp...oh it must be the breakin in...
It’s simply a business keeping the illusions and the never achievable dream alive...
Seems like my journey has been a little different than yours. I have had dozens of systems over the years. Earlier systems (that were nowhere near as resolving) as my current system, took only a week or two to dial in. In my current system there is much more information to be heard which takes me months of fine tuning to get it just right. Adding a new component or cable now seems to really change tonal balance, bass, soundstage and always integration to my subs.....maybe it's just me being more obsessive about it....lol
Viber now that WC has Wilson again the Maggies are only good for standing behind when he is changing clothes and wants to be modest. Not his reference for clarity, lol.
Agreed. Wish that he'd take the not so subtle hint.
@whitecamarross
I think, like one other poster said above, you are pointing to system synergy. This is really one of the single most critical elements in a system singing.
Amps with class A bias settings adds more circuitry to the equation. The signal path will automatically be impacted by the switching. Nobody talked about that Gryphon flaw... Purists will want their amplifiers clean of that kind of useless circuitry, you just don’t need that when your choice of amp has been well made to begin with. There is a reason why Simaudio, Pass Labs, Luxman, Ayre, Classé, Vitus, etc. don’t do it this way.
WC, As I said, yesterday's video sounded great except for the bass, which is likely due to the recording, not the system. All this talk about nebulous things like synergy is confusing and misleading. It certainly led me to judge the Mephisto negatively, because all I heard was your frustration. It is better to take a recording, mention specifically what you like or dislike about the instruments and voices. In other words, speak the language of music rather than totally unrelated things like cars and other generalities. If you want to be more enlightening, you might say for example, "listen to the guitar on the Mephisto at 4:02 and 7:33 on the Merrill. I hear the guitar as X on the Mephisto and Y on the Merrill, etc." The 2 reference quality amps you now own are Mephisto and Merrill, so it is more useful to describe how each amp reveals the instruments. The Merrill has the advantage of more break in.
I give credit to techno's point (free of his negativity) that a great amp should sound good right out of the box with any cheap power cord or cable. Out of the box, it may have unexpected flaws, but it will have many great attributes. And since it has so much to offer, the tweaks will have greater effect than for a mediocre amp. This has nothing to do with money, but rather with performance. Money buys better parts and construction, but good thinking doesn't cost more than bad thinking. A well thought out circuit design with OK parts will sound better than a lousy design with expensive parts. One proof of this is the brilliant design of Tekton Design speakers, which use ordinary parts and sound superior to many speakers costing 10 times the price, according to all the user reports I read.
kren, One day you will understand that low mass drivers have inherent advantages over conventional dynamic drivers. Electrostatic designs have been around for 100 years, and are simple and relatively cheap to make. Dynamic speakers are improving, due to better materials, but for clarity, low mass rules, so properly designed stats are king, followed by planar ribbons, then dynamics. The only advantage of dynamics is for power. All the money in the world cannot get a dynamic driver to react as sensitively and with as low distortion as a lower mass driver. For those who don't respect the laws of physics for speakers, I'll use vehicle analogies and say that the fastest horse cannot transport its rider as fast or effortlessly as an ordinary car.
The Maggie 20.7 has the better clarity; the Wilson has the better dynamic capability, esp, in bass.
i think WC is involved in is more than some dry rational and reasonable process of selecting his preferred musical components/system. i think we need only observe WC's restless passion for this calling to know that deep motivations stir within.
so when WC is crestfallen that Mephisto is not a solid a step toward a yet to be experienced Nirvana, but perhaps in fact is an indication that he's already "peaked", surely this is understandable. (not to mention practical/financial issue of "tweaking" a Mephisto - big undertaking).
to be here and watch this man reassemble his determination and move forward is wonderful. and i think it must be heartening WC, that in the videos i have heard so far, the Gryphon's potential at least is evident. within weeks it will be making the Merrill Ref6se combo (which sounds amazing) sound comparatively flat i think.
I did the unthinkable with the Merrill audios in terms of how good they can sound . Most agree right? You should go listen to the last 2 videos and compare how the Dag pre sounds with mephisto vs the ARC6SE. Notice how different it is and how the arc REF6SE sounded magical with the Merrills but it struggled with the mephisto. It didn’t sound "right" but this was exposed even more by the momentum HD preamp. That is what I am talking about. At the level of the Mephisto, things need to be at another level. I believe Ron17 mentioned this and I am echoing his words with videos. You can NOT get away with things that you got away with in the past when you are higher up the mountain. The higher you climb, the less oxygen there is and the less room for errors as well. Tonight’s videos will touch on a few things and reasons why I let go of the components that will be missing on the video.
You didn’t do the unthinkable with the Merrill. The Merrill did that by themselves. Thinking the Mephisto, because it is more expensive, will be tougher to implement is plain WRONG. It’s an excuse for a product that was most probably badly engineered.
Your oxygen climbing analogy is ridiculous at best. Just stop thinking too much and deviating from good common sense.
WC, Thanks for the 2 videos with the same music, so it is easy to compare the ARC/Mephisto with Dag/Mephisto. I heard significantly more clarity on the Dag/Mephisto. Did you try the Christine/Mephisto combo? My guess is that would provide the most clarity, transparency, speed, etc. I recall you said this about the Christine with other amps in the past. I hope I can stop you from selling off the Christine. Don't you want to try it when the Mephisto is well broken in?
As you know, I don't believe in synergy, which is really about mixing warmish and drier stuff together in some magic recipe. If you strive for ultimate clarity, that magic recipe will compromise the clarity. Since you have top level components, there will be no shortcomings in going for clarity, provided you break them in and don't blast the system at unnatural levels, which in itself compromises everything. In my approach, more flaws are revealed, but also far more good things which is the greater appreciation of the musical info. I hear the flaws and can easily ignore them, because I am enjoying more of the music.
If you want to say that there is great synergy with ARC/Merrill, that is only loosely true because both are on the sweet side, so there is a consistency if one seeks that type of sound. That is not really synergy--it just is additive sweetness. I believe that the Dag HD/Mephisto is really additive clarity and astonishment, not really synergy. Christine/Mephisto might show even greater progress towards the ultimate quest for the same.
This thread has to be the most popular and interesting one in years. Although I will never be able to play in this league, it's very cool to see someone who is not a professional reviewer tell its honest impressions on cutting edge gear. Big thumb up for the OP!
The guy is going up the food chain, gets a Mephisto and prior to that a Dag HD preamp, and well he realizes it’s just too much for him clarity wise.. ( maybe it’s tilted up in the highs, maybe he didn’t do his basic homework’s before combining the new amp wih the preamps he already owns ...add to that new speakers oh my lets do this all at the same time ). And nope , the guy is not even appreciating what he should be appreciating on this sota combo...
And what the guy does then...he orders a set of rolled off subpar cables to tame the system...My god, is this all he has learned all these years. It’s supposed to be a serious thread about serious gear....but the methods used in it’s quest for nirvana are just a joke right now.
@blackcirclerecords: thanks for the comment above!
@maxima95 who knows man... it is like arguing with my daughter when she wants her youtube to work and you can’t explain to her there is no wifi...(she is 4)
@thezaks:
you could be right and i am currently doing just that. Let it play more and more.
@viber: You actually agreed with what i said somewhat: I told you that the ref6se is really NOT at the level of the mephisto in some ways. It is an excellent linestage, but with the mephisto there were many things lacking that the Momentum HD easily exposed. The merrill Christine sounds great so far but i dont believe it is in the same league as the momentum based on what i am hearing.
All- Tonight’s video will also include a comparison of the Wilson audio Alexia 2 vs DAW. MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH ACTUAL OWNERSHIP and not what a damn magazine says or what some trolls fabricate in their heads. I am doing all these videos and typing here while i am also in the middle of meetings (yes i work a 9-5 like most of you) and trying to entertain my daughter throughout the day. Often times, i have to end up doing my listening tests after everyone has gone to bed here (12am-2am) so i can focus and in the meantime the system is playing music all day long before i sit down to listen critically.
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