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Tinned copper strands. Whoopty doo. Some specs have silver-plated copper - the older version of such was notorious for corrosion. I love how manufacturers resort to using these terms to sell gear. "Military" or "aerospace-grade" doesn’t mean jack regarding performance. Nor does "meets mil-spec requirements." True aircraft/military grade materials are simply more regulated in their manufacture and distribution. A lot of mil-spec products/equipment are absolute garbage in terms of performance. |
Military grade is a fashion statement by the marketing departments nothing more. ford and their military grade aluminum, wires now military grade all marketing hype. Mil spec is usually attached by military buyers for reasons specific to the needs of the requirements like hardening, shock resistance durability never have I seen it attached to quality other then for specific issues like impurities for corrosion prevention etc. I've been a Navy submariner for 21 years and every time I see an add for military grade I think how many people are getting burned from the marketing hype. Military grade in no way means better. as helomech stated |
Sorry guys, but I am of a different opinion - I just concluded a years quest to find good wire for Interconnects, speaker cables and Power cables I ended up with Mil-spec wire from Take Five Audio - see https://www.takefiveaudio.com/categories/100-deep-cryo-treated-cablewire The 24 guage stranded silver plated "Mil-Spec" trounced the solid silver wire I had used in my Interconnects The 12 and 10 gauge silver plated wire trounced wire from Furutech and DH Labs when used on the power cables. And the 16 an 10 gauge silver plated wire trounced high quality wire from Van Den Hul when used on my speaker cables. So I have to disagree with ... Military grade is a fashion statement by the marketing departments nothing moreI'm not going to debate this ad nau·se·am - just letting you know what I found and observed. Hope you find it useful - Steve |
I wonder what the cable ripped out of a retired aircraft carrier sounds like? Gotta be good, especially if it was subjected to battle readiness on a routine basis. I can’t even imagine what the cabling out of a Seawolf class sub would sound like, wow. And then there’s all those miles of TransAtlantic/Pacific cables going to waste when audiophiles the world over could be listening with them...but I digress. |
@qeoffkait - re... I take it the cryo was just window dressing. Unfortnately I have not tried a "non-cryo" version of this wire, so I am unable to make any comparable observations. Some people on this forum swear by its effectiveness, others condem it as snake oil. Having built "military grade" products in the past I have experienced first hand the additional efforts put into those products, so the term "Mil-Spec’ for me indicates a much higher quality product - and this led to me to try the wire from Take Five Audio. Here’s what TFA has to say about their Cryo process https://www.takefiveaudio.com/contents/89-cryo The improvements I observed between the varoius wires I have tried on cables of similar length, gauge and cable geometry were easily discernable and considering I had previously used, what I regard as very high quality wire from Van den Hul, Furutech and DH Labs, I found the degree of improvement very surprising. Was it the insulation, silver plating, the Cryo treatment or the quality of the copper? Perhaps the level of improvements is an indication of the effectiveness of cryo treating? The Cryo treatment was an added bonus - but at this time, it is yet to be "proven" (i.e. in my case) by my own observations. But I do keep an open mind when it comes to all things audio :-) Regards - Steve . |
There are specific MIL STANDARDS for many things for many different reasons. You would have to read the particular standard for whatever cables you have in mind. Undoubtedly some cables are specified to be able to withstand temperature extremes, salt, water, shock, etc. but other cables might not be specified that way, but some other way. Depends on application. Also undoubtedly, military specifications for cables would not (rpt not) address sound quality per se, in audiophile terms. |
Here's an example of a military grade connector: https://www.adorama.com/sw3502.html?gclid=CjwKCAjwpKveBRAwEiwAo4Pqm63e7zGPSMbX6vH8QILdAdXh2JLdD62c0P1jsv3cCub-H2VayQaFUBoCbJoQAvD_BwE - same fancy things used in aircraft. I should buy a box and sell them here at a 50x markup. |
A United States defense standard, often called a military standard, "MIL-STD", "MIL-SPEC", or (informally) "MilSpecs", is used to help achieve standardization objectives by the U.S. Department of Defense. All they're looking for is compatibility with existing equipment and structures, something that can be used, reliably, in various scenarios and applications, without failure. Is it a higher standard than what's out there? It all depends on the application and what you're willing to settle with. All the best, Nonoise |
@stevecham can you imagine the excitement (read audio butterflies) when I found out that an extremely limited supply of wire would be made available from the SR-71 Blackbirds. OMG! Wire conditioned and aligned at Mach 3+ and an altitude of over 80,000 feet.....Combine this wire with your Seawolf deep pressure depressed (oops, meant compressed) wire and there we have it. A spectrum so vast, sub-bass beyond Nemo on up to the Stratosphere. Articulation and stability over three times the speed of my hearing...... my heart skipped a beat just thinking about it. |
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