Magnepan, Ohm, Spatial or ??


I've heard the mag 1.7s and like the "openness" and other attributes.  However, the size and placement requirements are a killer for me.   I'm thinking Ohm and Spatial would be somewhat similar.  However, I can't demo them.  Any thoughts on these compared to the mags and any other "open" speakers I should consider?

Thanks all as usual!!


soundchasr
@soundchaserh
They are ISO-Acoustics’s Gaias and they are an amazing upgrade. The M3’s perform fantastically with any music IMO.
@mapman 

It would be great to demo both of them.  I talked to John at Ohm.  4-5 months for delivery!  Not sure how behind Spatial is...


That amp should do quite well with either I would expect.   For me getting the right speakers to fit the room is job 1, then amp match job 2.   
The thing the Ohms do uniquely is the very large sweet area.   They will do soundstage  and imaging coherently throughout the room with most any decent placement.  Spatial will be tougher placement I expect. Both sound great when set up well. 
@mapman Upstream gear is my PC feeding FLAC to a Topping D70 DAC and then a Jolida 1501RC hybrid amp (100w).

@coot

I would expect to be able to tame that room using the adjustments right on the 5000s.
Mine are in an L shaped room.
Also what gear is upstream? That makes a big difference in resulting sound as well and most tweaks as well.

I had Maggie’s, replaced with large Ohm F5 s with 12” drivers. Have heard Spatial at shows. Both are viable choices. Ohms work very well in odd shaped rooms. Biggest difference is Ohm will have the large sweet area and may be easier to place for good results whereas Spatial specs as somewhat more efficient and is probably more flea power tube amp friendly though beefier  tube amps seem to do well with Ohm as well.
Just saw your budget.  The Larsen 6.2 a little stretch but worth auditioning.Cheers.
@tt1man 
The Larsen 8 and 9's look great but at 8k and 14k they're a little out of my range.  
Check out the Larsen 8's or 9's. Place them against the wall--designed that way.
@audiosaurusrex Are those rollers on the bottom of the speakers so you can move them out of the way??  THAT IS AWESOME.  

My wife works in MN pretty often and there's an Anticable shop there that has the M3s.  She's going to try to get out there soon and give them a listen on my behalf. :-)   

@melvinjames - What are your thoughts on the two?  What type of music do you listen to with them?  

Are the Spatials good with rock, metal, blues, jazz, all that? 
Oh and Clayton from Spatial does offer a return policy but you will not need it 
I have the M3 Sapphire and absolutely am amazed  at everything these speakers do right.
horns, amazing, piano amazing, acoustic and electric guitar bass and drums incredible. Imaging Soundstage just everything is there. I was truly a skeptic being a box time/phase aligned guy all my young life now...OMG amazing results from these speakers!
heres my room
https://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?action=gallery;area=browse;image=206437

I've been looking at a similar group of speakers: Magnepan, Ohm, Spatial, and Eminent Technology.

Amongst several unknowns and challenges is the "direct sales model", used by all but Magnepan, which makes auditions difficult here in Dallas. 

I just made my choice of speakers based upon available room placement. 

Three of the contenders require 3 feet of rear clearance from the wall: Magnepan 1.7i, Eminent Technology LPT 8b, and Spatial M3. That is doable only on the short wall of my 14' x 24' living room.

HOWEVER, that position creates a cascade of issues: furniture placement, re-installing a tiled-in HDTV, removal of a beautiful bookcase to gain space, and odd room orientation once accomplished.

Choosing the long-wall position and a narrow Ohm speaker, which must be used close to the wall, has multiple benefits.

Positioning the Ohms on the long wall flanking my fireplace allows the use of the stereo gear in support of HDTV videos. The HDTV itself will not have to be removed from its tiled-in nest in the fireplace, and the resulting room will focus on the fireplace and HDTV as I think it should.
It might seem strange that I've given so much consideration to things other than speakers' sound. As I cannot easily audition 3 of the 4 contenders, and that a good used pair of Ohms has come available, makes it very reasonable to me.


I have both MMG's and MicroWalsh Talls and they sound nothing alike. I enjoy both presentations but they are different beasts altogether. Never had the pleasure of hearing Spatial.
Ohms would work and you wouldn't need to wonder which side of the room your black absorption device decided to lay. 
@soundchasr  The three speaker examples you listed have very different presentations of sound. I'm a big fan of omnidirectional speakers and horns (which you did not mention).

Besides the Ohms, which are great speakers, I would recommend Shahinian Obelisks (my personal choice) and Larsen. Obs are in your price range used and the factory support is great.

In the horn camp, there are Klipsch Heritage (Heresys would work great in your room) and other vendors. I just purchased a pair of JBL L200T3s for one of my daughters. Baby butt cheeks! They sound great and work in her room which is similar to yours. Powered by a tube amp - she's happy.

I had a set of Maggie 1.6qrs that I really enjoyed, but they do take up a lot of room and have to be out from the walls. This really complicates their use in a smaller or multi-purpose room. When I moved a number of years ago, I had to sell those. After trying several other speakers, I settled on a set of Ohm 1000s that I really, really enjoy. The current room is roughly 13' X 15' with some odd openings. The Ohms work perfectly for me.
I have Ohm 5000s in a room only 11.5 ft wide. They work ok, but not a lot of stage depth. The 'room' opens on 3 sides which makes the closed side bass heavy. I use a bass trap plus drc to even it out. 
You'll have to allow for a lot of sound to be absorbed by the big black thing on the floor.    :)

(sorry - someone had to say it).
Source material is FLAC through PC (Roon or A+ - still deciding) or streaming from Google Play Music (bad, I know). :-) 

Then to a MyDac (soon to be Topping D70) then to a Jolida 1501RC amp.   

The Kef R3 plus a sub or two I think would work well. What are your other components?
OB speakers will work in that room as long as you can get them at least 3 ft off the front wall.

Oz




I would think due to room size and placement limitations that planars and OB would be out. 

The Ohm Tall 1000's could work and they offer a generous home trial period. 

I heard Wharfdale's Diamond 10.7 several months ago and thought they decent little speakers. 

You could always go the bookshelf route too. Lots of great choices. 

Do you have a budget you're working with?


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I have owned Maggie 1.6s and 3.5s in the past. I now have Spatial Audio X3s. The Spatials are just as open and natural sounding as planars but with some things being so much better. Soundstage depth is one of them. Also midbass slam, bass depth and dynamics are also greatly improved. And you don't need a massive SS amplifier to drive them either.

The X3 might be out of your price range, but the M3 or M5 Sapphire would be a contender.

As the above poster mentions, room size will be a factor. Planars and OB speakers need to be away from room boundaries.

Oz