Linn LP12 turntable

Ha is right! 8 windows, 5 pairs of unused speakers, an unused sub and a 75”’TV between my mains when playing 2 channels. Still sounds great… a wonder! I do have multiple herbies dots on all my windows. 😏 

@mylogic You seem to have misinterpreted my last post. I am saying pretty much the exact opposite to what you wrote! I am a big believer in the upgrades that Linn has come out with over the years. While I agree there is nothing wrong with owning an old LP12 model from any era, and being happy with it, it should be noted that the older model is not close to where Linn is now with the current upgrades. This is, at least IMO, one of the biggest strengths of the LP12 platform...if funds allow, the table can be brought up to the current spec; which applies to all vintages. There are no other tables that i can think of that allow for this aspect...with them once you have bought your turntable platform, the only way to upgrade is to sell and buy something better. Most times incurring some loss of original investment.

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daveyf

ref. your post and my original understanding….

l was thinking along the lines of profit or loss considerations of upgrading a Nirvana you quoted as ‘’it is miles away’’ from the latest LP12. Would you really consider upgrading a Nirvana to the current Klimax considering the premium price’s for all new parts?

The incremental costs of replacing every module that has surpassed the original is huge. Would it be more economical to sell the old one and buy a new or second hand model with those upgrades you need?

There’s also the opportunity to sell on an older tonearm and upgrade that at the same time.

The money pit could most likely be much shallower taking this optional route?

@mylogic - they built a lot of beautiful ships in Glasgow but, I suppose riveting large sheets of steel together is somewhat different to building a tonearm.

@daveyf - yes, on one level an LP12s ability to be upgraded is a plus, but a lot of the upgrades are aimed at fixing flaws in the original design and engineering.

Its a bit like the restomod phenomenon in cars - yes you can replace and upgrade a lot of the parts but you will still be limited by the original design. And you will spend the price or more of a ground up modern design.

There are other modern designs that offer upgrades - for example, you can upgrade a Clearaudio Innovation to Master Innovation. And in that case you are adding additional new parts and not junking pieces of the existing turntable.

Even where a turntable cannot be upgraded, the economics of trading in the TT for a better model are not necessarily worse than the cost of purchasing parts upgrades. If you do a full set of Linn sanctioned upgrades on, say an 80's LP12, you have almost nothing of the original left except the plinth, platter and top plate.