Let's talk music, no genre boundaries


This is an offshoot of the jazz thread. I and others found that we could not talk about jazz without discussing other musical genres, as well as the philosophy of music. So, this is a thread in which people can suggest good music of all genres, and spout off your feelings about music itself.

 

audio-b-dog

@mapman ..Thanks for the PR 'screen flood'.... Haven't had one of those in awhile.... *L* ;)  Prefer Seesaw from Search/Lost Chord for the bass opener and the manic laughter myself, but y'know how taste tastes....

@audio-b-dog ....thanks for the Optimist gesture, but tend more as Realist with a pesky Nihilist cloud in tow....

Ever since fElon announced his 'super 'puter project labeled Colossus froze me in place....hoped it was just a sick pun, recalling this little number made when I graduated high school.... 

Not that I want to be a canary coughing in the coal mine, mind you....but with all the bad press AI is getting....this one, at least, has eyebrows raised and fur on ends....

Gets hard to argue when Someone Else has 'fingers' on All the buttons....

"Are we feeling lucky, punks?"

@stuartk 

"I listen for emotional engagement first and foremost. In this regard, someone with relatively little technique may be as "good" as a virtuoso... or even better. "

(I don't know how to lift something from what you said and have a buff-colored background.)

I remember when Bob Dylan said, "I sing better than Caruso." 

Van Morrison's "Astral Weeks" came out at the end of 1968. Nothing had ever been done like it. Not close. Rock n' roll changed with that album, and from what you're telling me, this is where prog rock started. I'm posting a short cut from the album so that you'll know what I'm talking about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cXIdFxbpIg

@stuartk, @mahgister 

Funny you should talk about my wariness of genres. I was just reading in the book that @mahgister recommended on the origins of thought that humanity is torn between the perspective of the individual and the collective. We are in danger of abandoning the perspective of the individual for the collective perspective. I think I am fighting for the individual perspective which would not favor the collective's definition of genres we can all relate to. The individual would (selfishly, perhaps) lean toward individual experience that would transcend words. This is all very complicated, and I hope I my summary did it justice.

I see it in my writing as the feminine which would favor individual experience versus the masculine which would lean toward the group experience. Except our group experience has been defined by men, and this takes it to another level of complication which is too long for me to go into now. Although, we do need to define species and genuses to have a discussion, I must admit. 

This does have applications to music and art, but more later.

Hmm Astral Weeks was groundbreaking indeed.  As was Sgt Pepper.  As was “Days of Future Passed” and early Pink Floyd. Each in different ways.   Revolver and  Pet Sounds to some extent as well were at minimum early seeds for prog rock. The Beatles’ combined commercial success, experimentation and boundary pushing made it possible for others to follow and push the boundaries even further successfully for 10 years or so until Punk rock came along and popped the prog rock bubble.  King Crimson’s “In the Court of the Crimson King” in 1969 is widely regarded for setting the benchmark for what was to become prog rock.