Let's talk music, no genre boundaries


This is an offshoot of the jazz thread. I and others found that we could not talk about jazz without discussing other musical genres, as well as the philosophy of music. So, this is a thread in which people can suggest good music of all genres, and spout off your feelings about music itself.

 

audio-b-dog

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Hmm Astral Weeks was groundbreaking indeed.  As was Sgt Pepper.  As was “Days of Future Passed” and early Pink Floyd. Each in different ways.   Revolver and  Pet Sounds to some extent as well were at minimum early seeds for prog rock. The Beatles’ combined commercial success, experimentation and boundary pushing made it possible for others to follow and push the boundaries even further successfully for 10 years or so until Punk rock came along and popped the prog rock bubble.  King Crimson’s “In the Court of the Crimson King” in 1969 is widely regarded for setting the benchmark for what was to become prog rock. 

Prog rock was/is very ambitious artistically. 
 

Therefore of course few care about it anymore these days other than a handful of dedicated enthusiasts.  Kinda like high end audio itself.  The two go hand in hand IMHO. 

What is prog rock?  This is a job for AI:

Progressive rock, often shortened to "prog rock" or simply "prog," is a subgenre of rock music that emerged primarily in the United Kingdom during the mid- to late-1960s [[1]](https://teachrock.org/lesson/the-roots-of-progressive-rock/)[[2]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_rock). It reached its peak popularity in the early to mid-1970s [[2]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_rock)[[3]](https://discoveringsongs.com/definitions/progressive-rock/).

Here's a breakdown of what defines prog rock:

*   **Definition**: Prog rock is characterized by ambitious compositions, experimentation, concept-driven lyrics, and musical virtuosity [[4]](https://www.masterclass.com/articles/progressive-rock-guide). It sought to "progress" beyond typical rock and pop music structures, drawing inspiration from jazz and classical music [[5]](https://www.rogerdean.com/post/what-is-prog-rock)[[6]](https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_rock).
*   **Musical Style**: Prog rock is diverse, blending various styles, approaches, and genres [[2]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_rock). It incorporates elements from classical, jazz, folk, and world music [[6]](https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_rock)[[7]](https://www.progarchives.com/Progressive-rock.asp).
*   **Key Characteristics**:
    *   **Complex compositions**: Prog rock often features sophisticated harmonies, mixed time signatures, and multi-part songwriting [[4]](https://www.masterclass.com/articles/progressive-rock-guide). Songs deviate from the standard verse/chorus format and can resemble mini-symphonies [[5]](https://www.rogerdean.com/post/what-is-prog-rock).
    *   **Extended Length**: Songs tend to be longer than typical rock songs, often exceeding 4 minutes, with some reaching over 20 minutes [[8]](https://mclub.wordpress.com/music-styles/progressive-rock/characteristics-of-progressive-rock/)[[9]](https://www.reddit.com/r/progrockmusic/comments/pqrx0v/what_defines_progressive_rock/).
    *   **Virtuosity**: Prog rock emphasizes technical skill and instrumental prowess [[1]](https://teachrock.org/lesson/the-roots-of-progressive-rock/)[[2]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_rock).
    *   **Experimentation**: Prog rock incorporates unusual instruments and sounds, sometimes including spoken-word parts [[9]](https://www.reddit.com/r/progrockmusic/comments/pqrx0v/what_defines_progressive_rock/).
    *   **Concept Albums**: Many prog rock bands create concept albums that present unified statements, often telling epic stories or exploring overarching themes [[4]](https://www.masterclass.com/articles/progressive-rock-guide)[[7]](https://www.progarchives.com/Progressive-rock.asp).
    *   **Dynamic Range:** An extremely wide dynamic range, with very quiet and very loud passages often occurring in the same piece of music [[8]](https://mclub.wordpress.com/music-styles/progressive-rock/characteristics-of-progressive-rock/).
*   **Lyrical Themes**: Lyrics often go beyond typical rock themes like love and relationships, exploring fantasy, mythology, science fiction, philosophy, surrealism, and mysticism [[5]](https://www.rogerdean.com/post/what-is-prog-rock).
*   **Instrumentation**: While based around traditional rock instruments (guitar, bass, drums, and keyboard), prog rock bands often incorporate a broader range of instruments, including synthesizers, mellotrons, and even orchestral instruments [[4]](https://www.masterclass.com/articles/progressive-rock-guide).
*   **Origins and Evolution**:
    *   Prog rock emerged from the British psychedelic scene in the late 1960s [[1]](https://teachrock.org/lesson/the-roots-of-progressive-rock/)[[2]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_rock).
    *   Early bands like The Moody Blues and Pink Floyd experimented with longer song forms and conceptual lyrics [[3]](https://discoveringsongs.com/definitions/progressive-rock/).
    *   The genre is rooted in a combination of rock and roll, psychedelic rock, jazz, folk, and classical music [[1]](https://teachrock.org/lesson/the-roots-of-progressive-rock/).
*   **Associated Terms**: Progressive rock is sometimes used synonymously with "art rock", "classical rock", and "symphonic rock" [[2]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_rock).


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Learn more:
1. [The Roots of Progressive Rock - TeachRock](https://teachrock.org/lesson/the-roots-of-progressive-rock/)
2. [Progressive rock - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_rock)
3. [What is Progressive Rock? (History, Bands, Songs, & Impact)](https://discoveringsongs.com/definitions/progressive-rock/)
4. [Progressive Rock Guide: A Brief History of Prog Rock - 2025 - MasterClass](https://www.masterclass.com/articles/progressive-rock-guide)
5. [What is Prog Rock? - Roger Dean](https://www.rogerdean.com/post/what-is-prog-rock)
6. [Progressive rock - Simple English Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_rock)
7. [Progressive Rock - Definition, Genres & Articles - Prog Archives](https://www.progarchives.com/Progressive-rock.asp)
8. [Characteristics of progressive rock | mCLUB - inspired by music - WordPress.com](https://mclub.wordpress.com/music-styles/progressive-rock/characteristics-of-progressive-rock/)
9. [What defines progressive rock? : r/progrockmusic - Reddit](https://www.reddit.com/r/progrockmusic/comments/pqrx0v/what_defines_progressive_rock/)”

@audio-b-dog more a musical concept piece from the days when prog rock on general was becoming a big thing  than a song that tries to cover the history of music from primitive drumbeats to harpsichord to organ to eventually electric guitar and mellotron.