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Hi everyone. I have just been looking at what you have to say about the Rigid Float Tonearm (as I have owned one for about 5 years now). I just wanted to say that I was using my one with the soft Silicone feet, about a year ago I change the oil (as it was getting containment and very thick). One off the stick-on feet came off so I thought I would try fitting the 3 little spike feet. All I can say is I wasn’t expecting that MUCH of an upgrade. I am a bit puzzled as to why the 3 little spikes feet should make any difference as the bearing FLOATS. 
 

alphason

Would you care to say exactly which version of the Viv Float you own and what you think of it as a tonearm, regardless of its footers?  There are not enough Viv owners on this forum to provide you with a useful opinion, as regards your actual specific question.  In fact the whole idea of an underhung tonearm may be met with hostility, as was the case last time anyone started a thread on the Viv. One could say in general that spiked footers often make an audible difference for good or ill.

Hi @alphason , welcome to the Forum.

Your entry post has a history of discussion within this Forums Analog Section, in relation to the Viv Rigid Float Arm, research will show the Geometry was regularly commented on. The Standalone design for the Arm has also been commented on.

It is good to learn of it being a device that has evolved in the good impression it has made on you. 

In relation to a Standalone Pod Tonearm Support, I hear one in use regular, with a 12" TA mounted on it. I have not at any time found a reason to suggest the method has a fault. 

In relation to the Geometry the Viv is responsible for the seed being planted and the experiencing a underhung set up is one in the pipeline.

I have RF ah7 with Ortofon Xpression. I have been into my audio for over 50 years and have only used vinyl. The RF 7 Tonearm is seems to offer a sense of stability that I have never heard before in any Tonearm, and I’ve own some of the best inc (4point thing). All this talk about tracking distortion just doesn’t see to matter to this tonearm, and not having a fix point bearing seems to make no difference either. I haven’t played a record that has miss tracked since I purchased it. I will say that if I stand my Tonearm on a stationary record and turn up my pre-amp I get no feedback and if I tap my stand (the thud) sounds completely damped. Not sure if that means anything but I’ve never had that good isolation.

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A study of the tracing geometry shows that this type of pivoted arm will have much higher tracking distortion. No thanks!

Jason, thank you for re-stating what is obvious to any casual observer, regarding the tracking angle error of an underhung tonearm. The outstanding remaining question is whether that matters much, whether the reduction in skating force (not its total elimination as some advertisers claim) is worth the increase in TAE. Reviews, professional and other, suggest that may be the case. I suggest an open mind.